lot of americans go to big bend national park in texas to visit one of the best features of big bend national park is this village. >> the idea you cross over, hey, it's like -- feels to me like a kwa quaint version of tijuana? more like a village. go to a village. tijuana's its own thing. this feels like the same idea. >> that's right. and they are actually -- i think it was four or five hours by road close to the closest other mexican town, population center in mexico. they're pretty isolated. their nearest population center is big bend. >> you said you were looking for a wall story. why? like, what -- were you trying to debunk -- going in there looking to debunk mythology? what was the goal? >> we hear a lot of pundits with very strong opinions on both