lot of americans go to big bend national park in texas to visit one of the best features of big bend national park is this village. the idea you cross over, hey, it s like feels to me like a kwa quaint version of tijuana? more like a village. go to a village. tijuana s its own thing. this feels like the same idea. that s right. and they are actually i think it was four or five hours by road close to the closest other mexican town, population center in mexico. they re pretty isolated. their nearest population center is big bend. you said you were looking for a wall story. why? like, what were you trying to debunk going in there looking to debunk mythology? what was the goal? we hear a lot of pundits with very strong opinions on both