justice, you have to prove intent. that s a high bar. if you continue to look at the pattern, the statements and the tweets all the statements made by president trump s lawyers and everybody around him, it does add up to that building pattern of obstruction of justice which most people think is ultimately what could get the president in a lot of trouble here. great to talk to both of you. with the president ramping up his attacks on robert mueller and his team, a new piece in the atlantic is america on the verge of a constitutional crisis. ben wit says there s a better term and it s constitutional rot. senior fellow at the brooks kings institution and editor of law fair. you talk about constitutional crisis. we re more familiar with what that may mean or might mean. help us with constitutional rot. what s that? constitutional crisis is an acute moment in which the constitutional order is tested,
off our southern borders. this is not what this country stood for. jeopardyizing the pchecks of our national security professionals is ludicrous and it s one i m familiar with from my work at the cia. i was an officer there when the government shut down and colleagues had to go from worrying about the mission to worrying about how they re going to put food on the table. that is not where you want your national security professionals to be focused. ben wit, i want to ask you about when this guy happening here, not lost on anybody here. a quote from the washington post. trump s presidency has done daily damage to our constitutional system of government. the president has girders
put out public word about trump not personally being under investigation, that was fold up by reince priebus also personally asking the fbi director to push back on reports in the news media that trump associates had been in contact with associates. mr. schmidt, i know we re getting you on short notice. thank you for being with us tonight. thanks for having me. first of all let me ask if i ve nut tted up this part of t story. you have it right. the thing we were excited about this this story that we have one of mr. comey s friends on the record, ben wit advertise talking about a lunch he had with comey in march where he described all the frustrations that he had, but comey thought he had actually gotten the white house to a place where they understood the lanes of the road and he s sitting there at the end of march they may understand