on the republican party. new york times puts it like this, republicans are putting trump out to pasture. that dynamic was on display the final hour for the battle of speaker, with republican members of congress playing not it, not me, as margorie taylor greene tried to get them to take donald trump s call. then there s the global condemnation for the insurrection in brazil, tragically similar to the attack on our own u.s. capitol, but is straight out of trump s playbook. that is all a very bad look for the ex-president. now today, the walls are closing in on donald trump, even more legally. legal one-two punch, if you will. first, a district judge has ordered trump s deposition in a defamation lawsuit to be unsealed. it s a deposition trump fought for years to avoid giving. now comes news that it is pencils up for the special grand jury at a fulton county, georgia. the 26 jurors spent eight months examining potential criminal interference in georgia s 2020 presidential elec
wanted to happen that day, that it was the pre-planned and desired result of a wide-ranging coup attempt by donald trump and orchestrated by him and his close allies and just like they did in other hearings, the committee will use team trump s own words to describe what happened on january 6th with video of trump s own advisors and trump s own allies and trump s own lawyers and trump s appointees, a sneak peek was posted by committee member adam kinzinger who will be co-leading alongside his colleague congresswoman elaine luria shows trump officials in effect corroborating one another, each of them testifying to the fact that as vice president mike pence and lawmakers fled from a mob of trump supporters filled with white supremacists and domestic violent extremists, donald trump was in the dining room watching tv. watch. was the president in that private dining room the whole time that the attack on the capitol was going on or did he ever go to the oval office or the white
Here at the table for the hour, Steve Schmidt and matt miller. But first, to react for the first time, single threads different threads of a single story. Questions about russians and contact with people in the president s inner circle. Former cia director john brennan, lucky for us, now a Senior National security and Intelligence Analyst for msnbc and nbc news. I understand now, sitting here today, why donald trump a week or so ago said dont believe what you see, dont believe what you hear on the news channels, because when you take all these events just this week together, they paint a very compromising position for this president on the question of russian influence. I think thats right, nicolle. I think weve seen over the course of the last two years basically an effort on the part of President Trump and others to pry to inoculate Public Perceptions of what actually
happened during the campaign. First, there were no meetings. Then there were meetings, but they were focused on adopt
next happens we don t know. we have assembled a team of exz perts to break it down for us. it s where we begin today. nbc news correspondent blayne alexander is here. she s been following the georgia grand jury. she has interviewed bonnie willis before, and she s been covering this for month. also joining us, barbara mcwade, law professor at the university of michigan. andrew weissmann is back, former senior member of robert mueller s special council investigation. and our dear friend, claire mccaskill is back. i want to start with you, blayne alexander. your interviews with the district attorney stand out with me when i read this news. i wonder what you make of where things stand and what she gathered? yeah. you know, i think that what we heard from her in that interview echoes what we have heard from her all among. she is not shy about pursuing charges. she s made it very clear when
we are going to start seeing soon. this subpoena is part of it. it s part of the larger precedent setting of congress ability to have oversight. broadly speaking for the january 6th committee, they are getting information. it s not like they re sitting in a black hole of nothing. they re just not having access to what steve bannon has, which is important because we know he was in touch with the former president. at the same time, there are other people who were subpoenaed who also were. that s just as important as well. barbara mcwade is back with us. i m thinking back to the conversation we were having about precedent here but also this idea that even if bannon is found in contempt and even if he s prosecuted and in fact even if he s convicted, my understanding is none of those things can compel him to speak if he wants to do his time and say nothing regardless. how important is the criminal component of this or congress following through in encouraging or scaring other potential w