but the reality is, what s happening in the united states is a demographic change, and what you see throughout history, in countries that go through transfers of power from one group to another is that the dominant group almost never goes down without a fight. reporter: professor, thank you so much, you are going to be sticking around, there is so much more to discuss. i will talk to you in just a couple of minutes. but with us now is congresswoman annie kuster, a democrat from new hampshire, and the chair of the new democrat coalition. she was inside the capitol on january 6th. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining me today. i know obviously it s a very,
brian, can you please expand on that. i think it s a really, really important point to start off on. the story of election in 2024. on the one hand, you have more people go into the polls than ever before, in more elections, more populous countries. the united states, to india, to indonesia, starting tomorrow, bangladesh. on the other hand, you had a real risk in so many of these elections that you could see for the democratic backsliding that, even if you trappings of democracy, where you are actually seeing is the decay of democracy, and the fact these two things can happen simultaneously is extremely noteworthy. even this is new. the idea that this many people, this many countries can actually exercise democracy in some form is something to celebrate but when you look at what is actually happening on the ground, when you look at what is actually happening in these campaigns, in these countries the directing things will go in the future. professor, why do you think that it s
very worried about what is going to happen there. i think pakistan as well, with there are concerns about whether that country can even continue to really, continue to grow within a democratic sense. so it s really actually easier to find a country that s not the case, more than given the sheer number of what s happening right now. barbara, i wanted to turn to president biden s speech yesterday. as you know, he spoke about democracy, and i want you to take a listen now to what he said. i can tell you from my experience, working with leaders around the world, and i mean this sincerely, not a joke. america is still viewed as the beacon of democracy for the world. america is still viewed as a beacon of democracy in the world. what is your response to that? do you agree with that? oh, absolutely. if america s democracy fails, democracy around the world will follow. we talk about america being the leader of the free world. what that means is we are the leader of all countries who pu
those stunning numbers be come especially worrying when you consider that less than a year out from the 2024 election, from where we re currently standing right now, we not only know much more about trump s post-2020 election actions, but also about his proposed second term plans. trump has vowed to use the doj to lock up his political enemies and threaten to install thousands of loyalists throughout the federal government. recently, the ex president even doubled down on his promise to be a dictator on day one if elected. that s the true danger here. it s not just about what s happened in the past, it s about what lies ahead. as a bulwark s crystal and toulouse put it, quote, january 6th, it turns out, was a were her soul to upheaval, the far deeper insurrection that trump now january 6th was prologue, the election year of 2024 will be the decisive drama on the mend stage, and it s outcome is very much in doubt. let s talk about all of this with barbara f walter, the professor of pol
brian, can you please expand on that, because i think that s a really, really important point to start on. i think that s really the story of elections in 2024. on the one hand, you have more people go into the polls than ever before, in more elections, more populous countries. the united states, to india, to indonesia, starting tomorrow, bangladesh. on the other hand, you had a real risk in so many of these elections that you could see further democratic backslide, you have the campaigns of the trappings of democracy, what you re actually seeing is that the k of democracy in the fact that these two things could be happening simultaneously is extremely noteworthy. even this is new. the idea that this many people, this many countries can actually exercise democracy in some form is something to celebrate but when you look at what is actually happening on the ground, when you look at what is actually happening in these campaigns, in these countries, you have to be worried if that s the