very worried about what is going to happen there. i think pakistan as well, with there are concerns about whether that country can even continue to really, continue to grow within a democratic sense. so it's really actually easier to find a country that's not the case, more than given the sheer number of what's happening right now. >> barbara, i wanted to turn to president biden's speech yesterday. as you know, he spoke about democracy, and i want you to take a listen now to what he said. >> i can tell you from my experience, working with leaders around the world, and i mean this sincerely, not a joke. america is still viewed as the beacon of democracy for the world. >> america is still viewed as a beacon of democracy in the world. what is your response to that? do you agree with that? >> oh, absolutely. if america's democracy fails, democracy around the world will follow. we talk about america being the leader of the free world. what that means is we are the leader of all countries who put