off. people trying to make a particular thing take off don t always get their way. sometimes some other force takes hold. it s especially true in a year like 2012. in the wake of important debate between the candidates and it ended up the topic that everybody was talking about was big bird after everything else, after the tens of hundreds of millions of dollars spent to make them talk about whatever they wanted them to talk about, the 2012 race was brought to you by the letter b. things happen. just as this show is brought to you by a huge number of hugely talented and hard working people who do you not see on camera but without whom i could not do what i do. the best staff in all of cable television works on this tv show. i don t know what i did to deserve it but i m grateful for it. i m humbled by their talent. i m nothing without them. none of us wouldn t be here if
pop culture tv stone when he have saying that. this is evolving. my measure david and i take a look at when things change is when the social culture changes. i think will and grace probably did more to educate the american public than almost anything anybody s ever done so far. i think people fear that which is different. now they are beginning to understand. as a person who is part of the phenomenon that is glee, how do you think it felt to the will and grace people to be mentioned? i know all four of them and i m sure they are thrilled about it. when they first did that show and nbc sat them down and say this could turn into a huge thing and you might be threatened. it might get ugly. it never happened. these are flawed characters. they are funny. you laugh at them. you want to go into that apartment whatever night it was on.
kid in the glee club. he wants every kid to have somebody they can point to and go that s me and look i m being supported. i m in place where people have my back and i get to raise my voice in song. i always felt like one of the things that i would always try to explain to people about what i learned from junior high and high school is that popularity doesn t buy you anything in later life. really you ought to look for the kids who are the dorkier you are at those important ages, the cooler you re probably going to be as an adult. it s not always true but that s what i observed. if you re a dork or geek it s because it s that time in your life and your genuine. you re not trying to be somebody else. how many stars have we heard about that failed as adults because they haven t gone through that. they haven t gotten to know
somebody they can point to and go that s me and look i m being supported. i m in place where people have my back and i get to raise my voice in song. i always felt like one of the things that i would always try to explain to people about what i learned from junior high and high school is that popularity doesn t buy you anything in later life. really you ought to look for the kids who are the dorkier you are at those important ages, the cooler you re probably going to be as an adult. it s not always true but that s what i observed. if you re a dork or geek it s because it s that time in your life and your genuine. you re not trying to be somebody else. how many stars have we heard about that failed as adults because they haven t gone through that. they haven t gotten to know their true self. i feel like i m waiting to
i ve got skin in the game but when the president came out and said that he supported the dignity of our families and our relationships that really moved me. that really touched me for the first time. i realized i had been kind of distanced emotionally from it but that broke it open for me. it made me happy. that s one of those things that covering it as a gay person, thinking about it as a gay person and covering it as a person in the news. i felt like half of me had to have talk with the other half. the way that was responded to and the way people are talking about it in politics world, how many people agree with the president? it s going to help with them and how many people disagree and it will hurt with them? the gay part of me, the human part wants to explain, the big issue, the big question is not already who agrees with him but who is still changing their mind? does this change history? i don t know if it changes