over law enforcement today. mark claxton is here for a special conversation about just comply. that s coming up. before the hour is out, we will hear from the icon fran leibowitz on politics, democracy, and why she says mitch mcconnell is one of the worst things to ever happen to american government. fran doesn t pull her punches, and we will hear from her later tonight. so, i got to tell you, as far as i can see, there is something to get excited about here, and we ll goat all that, but the top story are the new details about trump s national security scandal. and this is one of those stories that actually, i got to tell you, felt slow for a long time women knew there was this clash with the archives. and then we knew the government was viewing trump as holding some important materials that were not his. that s also commonly known as stealing. but that was playing out for a while. it was not until the unprecedented search that blew this up in the public realm and made clear
people. and this isn t just sort of a beat culture riff and you don t have to take a giant bow, but the current president once credited will and grace more than a lot of other things in the movement. take a look. my measure, david i take really began to change, is when the social culture changes. i think will & grace probably did more to educate the american public than almost anything anybody s ever done so far. and i think people fear that which is different. now they re beginning to understand. jim, big opening question. how do you tell stories that allow us to see each other as people, which we so desperately need? the script was written by max and david cohan. i don t usually do high-concept shows, but this was a little elevated because it had two gay
began to change and the social culture changes. i think will and grace did more to educate the american public than almost anything anybody has ever done so far. an extraordinary tribute there. joining me are the emmy winning stars, debra messing and eric. great to have you. thank you. what a moment. were you watching that live or did you hear about it? did you see it live? did. i started to cry. i mean, i think it was like the proudest moment of my life besides the birth of my son. really? yeah. and it was gradual because we never wanted to take that credit during the show. right. we just wanted to be a funny show and not take it seriously. nice to know we planted seeds. i mean, not just planted seeds but a pivotal moment really when vice president biden made that comment. a pivotal moment in the whole debate in america about gay marriage. he was the one that actually went faster than the president. that s right. and took the president with him. and to thin
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