manhattan. we understand that he has to check in once a week with his parole officer but other than that, he s a free man. that kind of reminds us of the zazi case. story out today that zazi, the alleged terrorist could wind up in the witness protection program. get a visa from the government as well. all interesting stuff. all right,ed to todd starns,s for joining us. taking a voter intimidation case and sweeping it under the rug. he says it s the worst case of voter intimidation he ever saw. and the latest trend, downright dangerous. contact lenses to look like lady gaga. they could blind you. imported from overseas. that story with our medical panel and more. that s our medical panel. they went to college. a lot of college. we make meeting times, lunch times and conference times.
i d say there are three types of operatives we look at. one is the hard core, well trained operative that would be used in a major attack, the kind of thing which happened on 9/11 or which they tried to pull off with the airline plot in 2006. the next level is the person who s brought in, they re not necessarily given access to the core al qaeda, but they are given some basic training and trade craft and launched back to use their western passport. that is perhaps this case, the zazi case. the third category is the person who gets on the internet and gets radicalized, they go off and do what they can accomplish on their own. that was the ft. hood shooting. we re going to have to build a capability to anticipate each of these different kinds of operations in putting together our intelligence program. that was of course former homeland security secretary
connection and a motive in the times square bomb plot, faisal shahzad is accused of bung willing his way to blow up part of new york city. as amateur it may have been, the case has exposed gaping holes in homeland security, more than eight years after 9/11. jack rice joining us right now, he s joining us along with fran townsend. welcome to both of you. we re learning more and more about this guy s pakistani connections today. he s sworn in as a u.s. citizen. he flies off to pakistan. he may have met with at least one taliban leader that they think at this point. should any of that laid out from what we know have raised red flags in your view? this is always easier looking back after an event. i think we ought to be fair about that, but i think this is a real opportunity. there are tens of thousands of citizens, foreigners who are naturalized u.s. citizens.
i can tell you generally, here s what you want to be able to do. you want to be able to question the person and then check what they are telling you against other information you re getting. if there are discrepancies, you go back and you challenge the person. the issue here isn t is somebody talking, it s whether they re giving you the whole story or whether they re concealing certain facts. that s why you can t treat interrogation as a fast thing. it s got to be something that takes place over a period of time so you can do the cross-checking that is a critical element in evaluating the truthfulness of what you re getting. let me go through some of the stuff that we have questions about. investigators right now looking into a theory that would link this attack to the pakistani taliban. if that were the case, this would be the first time that this group has struck against the united states. do you believe that they are behind this, given what we know? let me say, first of all, the
us tonight. thanks very much. just a short time ago, i spoke with former homelands security secretary, michael chernoff and asked him about whether these new no fly rules would have stopped him from getting on the airplane. take a listen? the problem in this case is that the no fly list is still operated by the airlines and not by tsa. there s a program called secure flight which relaunched a few years ago, although it was delayed by the airlines, that will, when it is fully implemented, eliminate this problem, because it will no longer be up to the airlines to deny boarding but it will be up to tsa. i should point out, campbell, there was a backup here which did work, which is customs and border protection s ability to look at the manifest before the plane leaves. it s that backup that s a very important part of the entire system. it was a crucial part in this case, certainly. right. we also learned today that a