i'd say there are three types of operatives we look at. one is the hard core, well trained operative that would be used in a major attack, the kind of thing which happened on 9/11 or which they tried to pull off with the airline plot in 2006. the next level is the person who's brought in, they're not necessarily given access to the core al qaeda, but they are given some basic training and trade craft and launched back to use their western passport. that is perhaps this case, the zazi case. the third category is the person who gets on the internet and gets radicalized, they go off and do what they can accomplish on their own. that was the ft. hood shooting. we're going to have to build a capability to anticipate each of these different kinds of operations in putting together our intelligence program. >> that was of course former homeland security secretary
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