the first text i sent after our family was to susan that we loved her very much she s been extremely supportive and cooper just loves playing with aunt susan. susan, we love you. give a kiss to everyone down there. we can t wait to party with you. thank you. don t make me cry again. thomas while we have susan, i think another point that would be great to hear from you about given what the courts decided is for a long time the notion we discussed this throughout the day, the notion that straight parents were better quote, unquote, at raising children was enshrined in this precedent. it was part of the argument. and then we saw tell us about how at oral argument this came up and the idea that a marriage exists only for pro creation between certain people straight people that argument didn t carry the day. not at all. families like rob and joe s and so many others like them actually put the lie to my notion that same-sex couples aren t every bit as wonderful
oh, yes, it does. you are allowed that. okay. outside the supreme court. i want to go right now, joining us one of the plaintiffs in the marriage equality case stories that we have followed very closely here. me personally at msnbc rob ta talmus, their attorney ari melber at the supreme court. but joe vatally and rob are here in studio with me. let me start with you though because i talked with the guys. talk with susan, her reaction because cooper was i don t know susan, can you hear me? i can hear you, yes. okay. cooper was your youngest client. you ve never had a 2-year-old to represent before. obviously this is a big win for you. this is a success in the right column for your legal practice. that s right. cooper is going to grow up in america where his parents marriage is fully respected, his family is fully respected, and children like him some day, if
they choose to marry a person of the same sex they know that s their option. it s a great day for children like cooper and for many all around the country. technically you are working in close connection with cooper s parents who we have here. and, joe and rob, for you guys i know you didn t make it down there to the steps of the supreme court. rob, let me ask you first. are you disappointed that you re not there or are you okay to be watching it at a distance from here but know that you won? no we made a conscious decision to be in our home state to celebrate here in new york with everyone. our hearts and minds are with everybody in d.c. and we re so excited for everybody there. but, yeah, joe and i wanted to be here in the state that recognized us first and supported us and we re just very happy to be here. joe, since susan can hear us do you have a message for her and the hard work that she s demonstrated for you, your family cooper? i think susan knows.