the first text i sent after our family was to susan that we loved her very much she's been extremely supportive and cooper just loves playing with aunt susan. susan, we love you. give a kiss to everyone down there. we can't wait to party with you. >> thank you. don't make me cry again. >> thomas while we have susan, i think another point that would be great to hear from you about given what the courts decided is for a long time the notion we discussed this throughout the day, the notion that straight parents were better quote, unquote, at raising children was enshrined in this precedent. it was part of the argument. and then we saw -- tell us about how at oral argument this came up and the idea that a marriage exists only for pro creation between certain people straight people that argument didn't carry the day. >> not at all. families like rob and joe's and so many others like them actually put the lie to my notion that same-sex couples aren't every bit as wonderful