and it s less interesting. we tell you something. know governing requires a lot more than slogans or tweets and that former president is not even allowed to tweet anymore. but i will tell you the point here is one that would certainly wound the ex-blogger and ex-tweeter in florida. pause a lot of the data we have shows his shtick has become boring. now, what does everyone else do with ha? well on the democratic side, senator warren has a piece many are stusing today that ran in the new york times where she says look, there is 200 days left and she is telling her party it is time to hit accomplishments and have a clear governing leadership and message on taking on corporate power so where do we go from here? and is donald trump the most boring person in the world right now? el, a veteran of several democratic presidential campaigns, ask david plough are here and we are back in 60 seconds. rwhat you need?
we are back with former obama campaign manager david plough. welcome to both of you. good to be here, ari. great to have you. david, i am sure you read the times piece with some interest and moderate announce. real party bosses, whatever the party, um, care about the party. right? there are people who actually care about the republican party, its policies, what it wants to do. we know and i think the audience ail knows, donald trump doesn t care about policy. but it is a portrait of his strain for relevance against the metrics i ran through, that he has become, in some measurable ways, david, boring. what is the challenge and opportunity there? well, i am wholeheartedly dprae with you. i said for some time, i doubt he
with nothing. trump is, you know, what are whatever you think of it, he is offering the gop base voters something. gop has offered them nothing in return. nobody has even try today offer a trumpy alternative that is not non-trumpist of the gop base. the only one who kind of has has been ron desantis ask his solution has to be even more to be even trumpier than trump. trumpier than trump and, yet, he would argue i think behind closed doors that it s less chaos that wall street ask those power bases can deal with desantis as harvard grad and former marine, i believe, former military, but he can still do all the other, um what s the word political crap. um, i suspect he will be hearing from both of you again as midterms approach. i appreciate you joining us. david plough and jake. thank you, ari. up ahead. accountability story.
in 84. donald trump what he has done as ex-president who lost an election is remarkable. grover cleveland won the popular vote. donald trump was a total loser on every level. he should have walked out of here disgraced and humiliated and that is not what has occurred. david? well, i think again, he has enormous poll. i think it is dwindling but still a large part of republican base that drives primaries but we are going to get some sense. i don t think it is a completely accurate sense but i think the primary in ohio, we will see. we are going to have a record that he supported and how they did in the primary, number one. the most important question then will be how do those people do if they get through the primary in the fall? and the trumpiest candidates outperform normal republicans in swing districts or in the? and my strong sense is they will