these vice presidents that were signing over the assets to these institutions had many different titles. they worked for 20 different banks, none of their signatures ever matched up, and i kept digging from there. two years later here we are today. jenna: it s really fascinating that you guys were able to kind of figure out, wait, we can t pay back four banks, so these are the wrong signatures, or it looks like this is just questionable. lisa, when you re looking through and you ve done some information, we should investigation, we should mention, and you ve taken on some other folks to look into their mortgages as well. how many of these mortgages that you re looking at are legitimate foreclosures, and how many look to be questionable? i would say that 100% of the securitized mortgages have improprieties, what looks to be forgeries or frawnd lent
as a governor, and they re not acceptable. jon: tom tancredo is running for governor on the american constitution party. we did invite the other two candidates, john hickenlooper and dan maes, to participate. they were unable to join us today. jenna: well, the foreclosure mess shattering millions of american dreams as people across this country are losing their homes, and the whole thing now a massive nationwide scandal. foreclosers all over this country halted while paperwork is vetted for mistakes or even fraud. but how did this whole thing start? a politician? a banking executive? how about two regular folks who started poking around when things just department add up? they re our guests today, activist lisa epstein and michael red monday join us from florida. so, lisa, what was the first sign that something department add up? didn t add up? is. well, i was in contact with