there s a verdict. the jury in donald trump s civil rape case deliberated for just about three hours. the judge announced he will read the verdict at 3:00 p.m. it is 3:00 p.m. the lawyers are in the room. the judge is in the room. the jury is in the room. so any moment now we will hear from they decided. six men and three women were charged with that deciding. one, did donald trump rape carroll and did he defame her when he said she was lying. if so, how much money does carroll deserve to be fairly and adequately compensated for her injuries? in closing arguments, her attorney told the jury donald trump didn t show up because he knew he did it. trump s attorney said trump didn t testify because there was nothing to testify to. he said the whole story was an unbelievable work of fiction. kaplin said carroll was exactly donald trump s type and she played the video deposition where trump mistook carroll for
we know already that the judge in manhattan has tentatively set a trial date for trump early next year in the middle of the primary season, and he has cautioned him explicitly that he may not set any dates that would conflict with that trial. he can t arrange for speaking or rallies. the judge will hold him accountable. you don t have the option of not being present in a criminal trial like you do in a civil case. this gets only more serious for trump from this point on out. charles, what do you think? i think joyce is right. i think even as this has been the first verdict to go against donald trump it is the least of his concerns in the broader scope of things because the criminal penalties that could result from a conviction in any of the pending investigations up to and including alvin bragg s currently pending prosecution for the hush money scandal, all carry with them the threat of jail time. and that s something that s very
he has no alibi because they can t give you a date for when this allegedly occurred. i should tell you everybody is standing up for the jury right now. now the jury is entering. sorry, getting all these updates from adam reece who s inside the room. once we get a verdict, i ll tell you. but donald trump not testifying, lisa, good thing or bad thing for the defense? i think it was a bad thing for the defense. they said multiple times this is not a criminal trial therefore the burden of proof in a criminal case beyond a reasonable doubt isn t applicable. that had real reverberations for trump on the flip side, too. that meant because it wasn t a criminal trial, the plaintiff s lawyers could make a big deal out of the fact donald trump didn t show up. not only did kaplin tell the jury he didn t show up because he knew he did it, but the colleague said you ve heard a lot about respect for the rule of law in your rule as jury ors
$2 million for that. yes on defamatory statement. $20,000 for that. other reputation repair. $1 million. and $1.7 million as well and making the statement mr. trump acted maliciously out of willful disregard of another. yes and the damages for that were $1.7 million. that s for the defamatory statement. lisa, what do you make of this? i m really, i m floored in a way because there were a number of jurors that all throughout the trial were making me nervous and i would venture to guess were making e. jean carroll s lawyers extremely nervous. there was one in particular for example who smirked all throughout the trial and one of the reasons i told you and many of our colleague on the network that projecting juror outcomes is an art not a science and one that you really can t predict.
essentially said that s locker room talk. i don t mean that. but now here in present day in the deposition, he appears to have said yeah, that s what i said and it s true. you better believe he handed the plaintiff gold. gold that the plaintiff used in her closing argument. kaplin knew what she had been handed and she used it in her case and it may have made the case for the plaintiff. which is pretty amazing considering that evidence came. it was unnecessary. and it came from one source. donald trump himself. when you re a star, they let you do it, he said on that access hollywood tape then in the video deposition, he said that stars have been doing it for a million years. unfortunately or fortunately. there was also as you mentioned, him mistaking e. jean carroll for marla maples, his ex-wife, which carroll s attorney said showed she was actually his type. there was also the moment in the