courtroom which is kind of seeing how small this courtroom actually is and how closely everybody will be sitting, especially when it comes to testimony from some star witnesses. so you're going to have obviously the former president in that krourt room along with his -- courtroom along with his attorneys. at times maybe michael cohen, karen mcdougal, stormy daniels feet from former president donald trump when this trial gets up and going next week. >> thanks. danny, do you think that there's any way donald trump ends up testifying? regardless of what happens at this sandoval hearing. >> i usually just play the odds. in i'm playing the odds, the odds are that he will help testify. every defendant has a constitutional absolute right to take the stand. and i can tell you that criminal defense attorneys will tell you that frequently, at the outset of a trial, their clients will say i'm taking the stand, i'm getting up there, i'm telling my story, and as the trial goes on and witness after witness testifies against them, a lot of those defendants will get cold feet and change their mind.
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