the 11th person on that stage should not have been obama, it should have been donald trump. and that s what was missing. and you know, adrienne, to the point of obama being popular, barack obama is the last guy to win a huge electoral margin as well as a huge margin of the popular vote. he won 51%, a clear win, 51% in 2012 and 2016 it went below. he won by 10 million votes the first time. he was extremely popular. 94%, 95% popularity with democrats. just as a political matter, should there be a democratic version of the 11th commandment, that you do not speak ill of the former democratic president. you say this is model and we want to build on whatever he did, but you never attack him? yeah, joy, i certainly think so. i can t quite figure out what the strategy was with some of these campaigns last night. it should be no surprise that karine and i both agree on this. when you re doing debate prep,
popular in your party, which is president barack obama, by a mile. he s popular with african-americans, which is a community that we need to win not just the nomination, right, for those candidates that are running, but also the general election to beat donald trump. and so they have to figure out a way to talk about the vision to move this country forward without attacking obama s legacy, because that will be problematic. here s something, right? we know donald trump is in ohio today. we just gave him they just gave him a talking point, right? oh, yeah, democrats don t think or think that obama did a bad job. like that s the talking point that they re giving donald trump. and here s the thing. when you re litigating your last democratic president and not donald trump, that s problematic. the 11th person on that stage should not have been obama, it should have been donald trump. and that s what was missing. and you know, adrienne, to the point of obama being
15% think it should be elizabeth warren, 1% thinks it should be jay inslee. while there s unanimity in the goal overall, you want to show you can go toe to toe, the way people are assuming that some of the bigger names i mean, it seems that joe biden is really benefiting from this notion that he has what it takes to take on trump. you want others other people want to show, hey, i can do it too. you don t need to do that by fighting with joe biden, you can do that by looking into the camera. right, here s i want to make sure i understand that. the way you show you can take on trump is to take him on in absentia, that s a way there s a marker to people who are looking to someone who can do that. for all intents and purposes there s going to be an 11th person on stage both nights,
in miami and at home are going to agree that donald trump is terrible and needs to be removed. 38% of them think it should be joe biden. 15% think it should be elizabeth warren, 1% thinks it should be jay inslee. while there s unanimity in the goal overall, you want to show you can go toe to toe, the way people are assuming that some of the bigger names i mean, it seems that joe biden is really benefiting from this notion that he has what it takes to take on trump. you want others other people want to show, hey, i can do it too. you don t need to do that by fighting with joe biden, you can do that by looking into the camera. right, here s i want to make sure i understand that. the way you show you can take on trump is to take him on in absentia, that s a way there s a marker to people who are looking to someone who can do that. for all intents and purposes there s going to be an 11th person on stage both nights, it s going to be donald trump. i don t think that distin
how will you doing? i m good. that s strange. it s sped up. it looks like a chaplain movie. we wanted to get to the heart of it. i don t need your slow walk before the moment, you know. so what do you think is important when the democrats take the stage, especially such a large one? well, you know, there are going to be a couple of things to look for. you want to look at what s in the paper wednesday morning, 12 hours before the debate even starts. it is 72 hours from now, enough to be excited and for you to have a live special. but the world can change and typically does in three days. what we re talking about today, whether it is about joe biden of pete buttigieg might not be what we re talking about on wednesday. yeah, it is a crowded stage, but there is an 11th person that doesn t have a podium. it s donald trump. donald trump is going to be an issue in this in a way he hasn t otherwise. i don t just mean that as being the incumbent and people saying they don t like the incum