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admit to that point yet. >> brian has apparently used that extensively. busy three hours and stuff with george w. bush with us and you're going to hear things that you haven't heard thus far in his interviews coming up shortly. >> look forward to that. we begin with breaking news. smoke and flames engulfing a 30-story apartment building in shanghai, china. people are jumping from windows to escape the burning skyscraper. five people have died so far. the death toll, unfortunately, expected to rise. new details this morning in the case of that missing ohio family. police now have a suspect in custody. 30-year-old matthew hoffman charged with kidnapping after police found 13-year-old sarah maynard bound and gagged in his basement 10 miles from her home. maynard is said to be if good condition. her mom, brother and family friend all still missing. the nation's homoland security chief is asking air travelers to cooperate and be patient now with those full body scans and patdowns at airports this holiday season. in a column in "usa today," homeland security secretary janet napolitano writes this. that the searches are going to serve an important goal, that civil rights and pilots groups are protesting now and urging people to boycott these searches. coming up next hour, more on body scanners when we talk to the tsa administrator. a british couple held hostage by somali pirates for more than a year are wake up to their first day of freedom. paul and rachel chandler say they were beaten and caged like animals during their time in captivity. they are glad, as you can imagine, that the ordeal is finally over. >> glad to be alive. really. >> the somali government paying an undisclosed ransom amount for their release. the couple was kidnapped in october of last year while yachting in the indian ocean. and those are your headlines. >> all right. brian? >> all right. hey, let's talk about the latest lame duck congress group. congress returns for the start of that session. >> scary looking. >> tax cuts are a priority, number one, as you know but first the incoming members have to report for duty. kelly wright joins us with a rundown of what will be a very busy day in washington, d.c. including a couple of two new senators, right, kelly? >> sure. it's going to be a very busy day for them as they get under way here with the new congress. the lame duck congress but the speaker of the house had a challenge for the republicans coming in. john boehner told republicans including the new group of freshmen members, this is no ordinary year and this is no ordinary freshmen class and that has been the theme of the weekend events for the incoming freshmen class of republicans. other g.o.p. leaders are urging the new members to keep in mind as boehner told them sunday night, they have a pledge to america to keep and that should be their governing agenda. >> we don't really want to be just rhetorical gab flies. we have to work constructively on real legislation. >> the one action but i think the action they want is to stop what nancy pelosi and barack obama have been doing. >> and the republican freshmen were treated to a round of activities to welcome them to washington. three main events were actually going on taking place. the conversation at the capitol hill club and then there was the tea party patriots chat and the constitutional conference forum. several new members of the g.o.p. vow they're here to do the by of the american people. to chat ellenge the status quo washington to deal with obama care and more earmarks evading them when they transition into governing. a lot of people are talking and we'll have more as we talk to you throughout the day. especially you'll hear from some of the freshmen members. >> all right. we'll talk again. meanwhile at 4 minutes after the top of the hour, let's talk lame duck. >> let's do. doesn't it seem appropriate that the u.s. capitol would be surrounded in fog at this hour because, as they sail into this new lame duck session of congress, there's a live picture, lame duck sessions generally are not very productive. but there is one major agenda item and that is taxes because they are set to expire at the end of the year and congress is going to have to do something about it, yea or nay. >> they didn't do it. they're supposed to do it before the midterm electionses and oh, yeah, because there was an election, they decided nobody wanted to be on the hook for what the end result would be. so now, yeah, they're left with very short period of time to make a decision. it seemed as if the president and his main advisors were maybe going to move into the direction of the republicans after the election a couple of weeks ago. but now, his senior advisor david axelrod not taking that step again. listen to this. >> let me repeat what the president's position is. we have to extend these middle class tax cuts. absolutely have to do that. we should do that permanently. give people the security of knowing their taxes aren't going to go up. that would be important for the middle class and important for the country. we can't afford to go the additional step and permanently raise -- and permanently cut taxes, primarily for millionaires and billionaires at a cost of $700 billion for the next 10 years alone. the guy is the key of communications for the white house. really slipped up on wednesday while he played the president's hand while still in southeast asia. here's what he said on wednesday. we have to deal with the world as we find it, the world of what it takes to get things done. and people hint that the president was looking to give right away which he's going to give, perhaps, is on the upper end of the tax rates for the upper end of people who make $250,000, leave in place for a couple of years but don't make them permanent. >> the other thing that a lot of people don't seem to pick up on is that the administration has the ability to continue to say this is for millionaires and billionaires. no, these are for people and businesses who make over $250,000 a year. still a lot of money but i think it's not accurate to say that this tax break would benefit millionaires and billionaires only. >> here's jim demint showing, i guess, he would come off his status as saying i want permanent tax cuts for those who make over $250,000. not tax cuts. tax rates here, he showed some givement>> we need to remind everyone we're not talking about cutting taxes, we're talking about keeping current tax rates the same and i don't think there's any room to negotiate on raising taxes particularly on smaller businesses. i hope we can get a permanent extension but if the president wants to compromise on a two or three year extension, what's important here, chris, is businesses know what their tax rates are going to be over the next few years so they can plan growth and plan to add people. >> i love what schumer said. schumer said i'm going to go with the geraldo plan, the geraldo plan of taxing people, millionaires and billionaires, people making over a million dollars. >> that could be one of the pieces of compromise from the president. >> let's talk about when the lame duck session gets started. charlie rangel's hearing on whether or not he violated 13 different standards of congressional conduct. he goes on trial and because he already hired his lawyer, mr. rangel who was an attorney once upon a time hasn't practiced for decades. he's going to defend himself. let's take a look at some of the violations, solicitation he violated, the code of ethics for government service, the house gift rule, post service laws and franking, free stance, the house office building commissions regulations and purpose law and the member congressional hand. look at all that stuff. >> you wish they would say it in plain english. i guess it had to do with the rent he was paying and the taxes that he allegedly didn't pay but there's a whole slew of 13 allegations there. interesting to me they haven't had one of these kind of public ethics hearings since 2002 so nobody knows really what to expect. and the republicans will not make as much of a show of this now because of winning in the election a couple of weeks ago. that was a big debate about whether or not this should happen before the election and after. >> rumor is he's going to leave in six months anyway. he's not chairman of anything. his party is not in power in the house. the noos "the new york post" said something that blew me away, they found some flagrant violations. you know the pac money that is gathered, usually to support candidates or other candidates, he's using that money for his legal defense which, by the way, he should sue for ineffectiveness. $295,000 taken out of pac money to pay his lawyers? in 2009, $100,000. yanked $1.4 million from his campaign coffers in 2009 and 2010 from a different fund. >> if you're under investigation for ethics violations, maybe you'd lead a really, really silent and, you know, by the rules kind of life. it appears not. maybe he didn't. maybe that's why he doesn't are a legal team anymore. i don't know. >> he can't afford them. >> he ran out of dough. so he uses this money from the leadership pac that generally would go one member of congress would use some of their leadership pac money to give to another member of congress in a tough fight. clearly, the house ethics manual says the only campaign funds that a member may use to pay for congressional expenses like legal fees are funds of his or her principal campaign committee, not the funds of the leadership pac or a multicandidate committee as well. so it looks like suddenly on top of the 13 ethics violations, if he withstands that, he'll use the dough to play this. >> he blames it on bad bookkeeping. that's good enough for me. >> amazingly he was re-elected by a huge margin. can you believe we're almost at the end of 2010? i can't. we're talking about christmas and the new year. what were the big words for this year? let's do five down to the number one words. the number 5, guido and guidette. where does that come from? >> the "jersey shore". these are from the global language monitor. they find out the most common words in the english language. refutiate is number 4. sarah palin made that up. >> number 3 is the narrative. and i'm not even sure where that's from. i think i've been sleeping for the last year. but what was the narrative? >> that's used in politics to replace the need for a party's platform. they say the narrative this. >> who came up with this list? >> number 2 -- >> i hate this. it's the worst thing that happened in soccer. oh, my goodness. that's almost destroyed the entire world cup. arbitrary blowing of horns for no apparent reason and it's very annoying. even the -- it makes me long for the -- >> the kazoo. that makes more sense. >> they actually banned it from future world cups. >> they used it at the high school next to my house. >> i'd move. >> and number 1 -- spill cam. >> badly. >> we remember that from the big oil spill. but you know what, guys? that's a really important number one. had it not been for that spill cam, we would have had a totally different conclusion, i think to that whole oil spill because the world could watch what was going on. >> you're right. >> based upon the spill cam and they didn't like it. >> right. figure out how much oil is actually coming out. that's not 5 gallons a minute. that looks more than that. >> meanwhile at 12 minutes after the top of the hour, here's what we have coming your way. he took our country to war to protect the freedom after 9/11. >> when i first heard about it, i was madder than hell and i was going to find out who did this and kick their whatevers. >> coming up, our sit down with president george w. bush. >> and from pizza to politics. newly elected republican congressman bobby schilling here to address his critics and explain what he wants changed in washington. >> then oh, 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>> you know, it's -- my standard answer is hey, look where the experienced politicians have gotten this great nation. and it's time that we do as our founders wanted us to do is take our tool belt off, set it to the side and go and serve the people of our district. that's what we intend on doing. >> do you know, congressman elect, that the other 39 or so tea party members, do you feel as though there's a bond with you guys and women as opposed to just the general g.o.p.? >> you know, i really don't see that. i believe in general the g.o.p. and the tea party folks really want the same thing. i don't see a divide. i actually see a very united front. it's actually quite interesting. over yesterday, for example, everyone got together and, you know, you can't really tell the tea party folks vs. the g.o.p. and i think at the end of the day, we all unite as one. and i think that's what's going to really help this congress. >> sure. and i understand that as a family, you had to unite because before you agreed to go to congress and do this, you had to get your son to do what? >> my son aaron actually is running my pizzaria for me. >> while you are in congress, your son is running the family pizza business. >> that's correct. actually three of my boys work there. i have a large family. >> congratulations, that's great. >> 24% of the newly elected house members have no political experience. exciting time to know where the bathrooms are and know where the voting machines are. thanks so much for joining us. congressman-elect bobby schilling. it's going to be an exciting two years. >> looking forward to it and thanks for having me on this morning. >> you bet. he's going to be great in washington, you know why? he's good with dough. >> absolutely. >> a lot of dough. >> throwing it around. hopefully just the pizza. two top democratic strategists say president obama should announce immediately he will not run for a second term. wa washington insiders tackle that next. >> that's good. don't bother eating fruits and vegetables either. the controversial nutrition behind this diet live. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] every day thousands of people are switching from tylenol® to advil. to learn more and get your special offer, go to takeadvil.com. take action. take advil®. - sure, cake or pie? - pie. - apple or cherry? - cherry. oil or cream? oil or cream? cream. some use hydrogenated oil. reddi-wip uses real dairy cream. nothing's more real than reddi-wip. >> glad you're up. a jumbo jet bound for argentina forced to return to sydney because of electrical problems. the plane with 220 people aboard landed safely but it was the fourth flight aborted since the rolls royce engine on airbus disintegrated in flight two weeks ago and senator lieas lis murkowski continues her friendly climb. her opponent joe miller's last hope is the overseas and military ballots that have to be in by wednesday. gretch? >> thank you, brian. president obama's senior advisor david axelrod announcing he'll resign early next year to start the president's re-election campaign. some democratic strategists are against the idea. here's what doug shone said this weekend. >> the president should be run from the point of center, to solve our economic and domestic problems. we say if he governs from the center bringing red and blue america together, he can really be a transformative president the last two terms parts of his. >> he was calling to say he would be a one term president. is that a reality? joining us for a fair and balanced debate, republican strategist and managing partner of evolving strategist and clinton campaign advisor. and let me start with you, you are also on the democratic side of things. you have pat goodell and doug shone saying he should be a one term president, is that realistic? >> totally not. with all due respect to pat and doug whose last major democratic campaigns were a good long while ago, look, president obama, his numbers today are aappreciably stronger than ronald reagan's and bill clinton's were at this point in their presidencies and both went on to win huge victories when they ran for re-election two years later. the pugh center doing a post-election poll last week showed the president is looking for president obama for solutions, not the congressional republicans that is surprising. that's different from the last two times that the out party came in during a president's term in 1994 and again in 2006 so look, i know it's a fantasy on the right that president obama is either going to get primaried or step down but it's near fantasy. nobody in your audience would take it seriously. >> if you think it was a fantasy, it was by two democrats. >> people who call themselves democrats, sorry. >> ok. le me turn to sabrina for her take on this. >> i think the democrats are look for some kind of magic wand in terms of bringing the american people under the democratic fold again and i don't think this would have the unifying effect that is shown and he suggests it would. one of the big problems for president obama is he has this massive legislative agenda that he can't campaign on. i mean, from the bailouts, the tarp, to the economic stimulus to the health care overhaul. it's wildly unpopular and unfortunately for him when it comes to running for re-election, he has to say look at all the great things i did. >> the president would be so much more effective if he made this decision because he wouldn't have to start politicking right now to become president again in 2012 and actually have to get down to business. >> right. so what is his agenda? sabrina talked about tarp. obviously that was something that president bush started. the auto bailouts were something that president bush started. those obviously are uniting republicans and democrats even our military policy in afghanistan is something a lot of republican military leaders are saying right on, you're doing the right thing, president obama. whether it's clean energy, whether it's education, whether it's technology and innovation, those are things around which there's no daylight between what the president is trying to do and republicans so that absolutely could be an agenda that unites people. >> but sabrina, bottom line is there was an election two weeks ago and the people in america didn't agree with richard. >> they absolutely did not. they were looking to a return to constitutionally unlimited government, they want free market based policy prescript n prescriptions and the only way the democrats are going to bring the american people back on their side is if they can start listening and showing and, unfortunately, yesterday i listened to david axelrod on this network and didn't seem to understand what the implications of the election were all about. he seems to think this is simply a function of a bad economy which it is not. it's about the american people feeling government is too large. >> we'll have to see how the president reacts now when he comes back home as he did yesterday. sabrina schaefer, richard goodstein, always great to see you. thank you so much. he witnessed the destruction at ground zero and the decision to take our country into war. >> it was like going into hell. i get down there and there's men and women searching for their buddies and there was a blood list. >> what you haven't heard yet when we sit down with president george w. bush. and then a deer goes wild in the burbs following a man into the grocery store. he was hungry. what happened next? 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two deer chased a man into a supermarket in niagara, new york and they started leaping through the store. a woman behind the bananas -- she said she saw one of them jumping over the fruit and vegetables displays. they left the store on their own for making one big mess. they would go after the carrots, wouldn't they? that's what the deer would want. wouldn't the deer want that? they were in the right area, brian. >> yeah, i'm going to look into that, gretchen. i think there's too many deer, right, ted? and there's no answer. it's up to -- it's monday now and time to take a look at the nfl games in a short period of time. it's called brian's best. best player, tom brady as much as it pains me to say this. he takes home the award and dominates the steelers again and his wife says his hair looks great. 350 yards through the air. three scores all to rob the steelers. brady now is 6-1 against pittsburgh. move on to game of the day and this is a tough choice. lot of great games, sorry, joel, the jets lose. jacksonville wins. texas-jags, tie game. time winding down. david gerard, hail mary, the prayer answered on a batted down pass. he tips it right to mike thomas. he would win. no time left on the clock and excessive celebration would be the penl. there's no time left to charge. 31-24 the final and finally the biggest upset. to new jersey where they forgot to pay the electric bill to the brand new stadium. can you believe this? someone didn't use the backup generator. the stadium goes dark twice and after the lights go back on, the cowboys continue to roar. they got off to a quick start and never looked back. they win their second game of the year. the backup lit it up for 327 yards against what many people thought was the best defense in the league. you'll see in that great run. cowboys coach out of princeton gets his first game. his first game, first win. 33-20 is the final. >> what caused the lights to go out? >> i don't even know. i think they're trying to find out now. they were interviewing the guy who is in charge of the stadium. >> ok, not a good thing to happen during game time. >> i'm wondering why i'm watching the rams game. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. in the days that followed the 9/11 attacks, president george w. bush was called upon to comfort grieving americans and lead a country into battle as you may remember. in part one of our sitdown interview, we look at war, a word that defined his presidency. >> before the planes hit the buildings, you were going to be the education president. >> right. that's correct. >> you were in that room and then you became a wartime president. >> yeah, i. did >> great thing about your book, sir, is it takes us back to that scary paranoid time when you don't know when the other shoe is going to drop. >> right. so i put in there that september 11th at some time will be a date on the calendar for americans. it will be like pearl harbor day. for those of you who lived through it, it will be a scar. and my job was not to allow the memory to become distant. and my job was to encourage normalcy but at the same time, take measures necessary to protect the homeland. >> so i want you to look back with us at that moment when you make your way to ground zero. >> i can hear you! i can hear you. the rest of the world hears you. and the people will -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. >> the people working on the day, they wondered if i was going to bring justice. >> not revenge, justice. >> that's how i view it, justice to the know my and they didn't know me. they knew that they were -- they wanted -- they wanted something done and so as you noticed on that tape, i'm there trying to be the conciliator, pray for you and that kind of stuff. that's not what they wanted to hear so they -- i was -- the guy yelled i can't hear you and out of my mouth tumbled the words. they'll hear from us and that's what those workers wanted to hear. you saw it on video. then you saw it in person. what was the big difference? >> when i went there, it was just -- i mean, all the senses were overwhelmed by the devastation. sloshing through water and curtain of dust and dirt and the smell of the burnt buildings. it was just unbelievable. it was like going into hell. and i get down in there and there's these men and women who are just searching for their buddies and there was a palpable blood lust and they wanted something done. so did i. like i said in the book, you know, when i first heard about it, i was madder than hell. and you know, i was going to find out who did this and kick their whatever. >> right. after that, there were a lot of threats. >> yeah, there were. >> in the book, you talk a little bit about how george tenet came to you and said we're picking up chatter. there could be something bigger than 9/11 on october 30th, the 31st. >> in this case, i was invited to come and throw out the pitch at yankee stadium and i thought it was important for the president to come back to new york again as part of the healing process and as part of the process of letting new yorkers know the rest of the country cared for them. for all the city had been through a lot. and i accepted the invitation. and i got to tell you, that was the most nerve-racking experience of my presidency, most nervous moment of the presidency. >> when you were on the mound? >> absolutely. i was -- >> you were in a flak jacket, right? >> i was. but that wasn't what made me nervous. what made me nervous was yankee captain derek jeter saying if you bounce it, they'll boo you and i was thinking about that when i went out there. i didn't want to bounce it and i got out on the mound and the ball felt like a shot put. i'm not kidding you. my adrenalin was pumping to the point where that ball felt so heavy. and todd green who was a catcher looked very small. and so thankfully i didn't bounce it. >> shortly after that, we went to war. >> yeah. >> and everything changed. you got a letter before the war from a fourth grade girl where her dad was in the military. >> she said you can have him. as much as i love him, you can have him basically was the bottom line. i quoted that letter when i announced the operations in afghanistan were beginning. >> that little girl to give you her father. >> oh, yeah. listen, this country is a patriotic country. powerful, powerful moment and -- but i had seen what it was like from afar for my dad to commit troops. and i tell a story in there about his concern about the wounded. and those who would lose their life and so i had a sense of what it was like but you never know until you actually put troops in harm's way about what you feel in your heart and i had a heaviness in my heart because i knew that there would be consequences that would devastate families which ultima ultimately increased my determination to succeed. which led to like, for example, the decision on the surge. >> in iraq, when things looked worse, you doubled down and you're surging away, you find out who your friends are. and one of them clearly -- you don't take -- you don't hit anybody in this book but you bring the quote in from harry reid. after the surge is launched and the fighting is raging, he says to the world "i believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense, and you have to make your own decisions about what the president knows that the war is lost. and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in iraq." >> yeah. >> what was that like? what message did that send to the sold engineers -- soldiers? >> as i said, it's irresponsible. it's one thing to disagree with the policy. and i understood a lot of good people disagood with it. it's another thing as a leader to say to some loved ones your kid is going into combat to a lost cause. it irritated me badly. i mean, i was mad. it's a lesson -- it's one -- one way of saying the leadership be responsible and think about what they say. >> you say if i had to summarize in one sentence, my most important accomplishment as president, it would be -- >> protecting the homeland. >> well, we talked to him for close to an hour and it was very engaging and coming up in the next hour, we'll have part 2 of our interview with president bush where he takes us inside the bonds of his family and his relationship with his father and brian, people after they hear the story in one hour will be telling the story about george herbert walker bush and his visit to the mayo clinic and that nurse and the test results. >> what? >> it's true. >> that's a good tease. >> it's a story you have never heard unless you've read the book. >> wow. >> i haven't had a chance to look at the book. i was gone last week. great job, you guys. what an honor to sit down with the president. >> have to get a rain check. first thing he said was where's gretchen? >> thank you for pointing that out. very nice job. so good to hear those personal coming from the heart about what he was actually going through after 9/11 because we saw him but to hear him now recount that is really great. >> and it's a terrific book. meanwhile, the government proposing fair pay for all workers who matter how they perform. stuart varney said that is a threat and stuart is coming to the studio, he's coming up next. i like to make my own investment decisions. excuse me, what is that? oh, i'm a fidelity customer. okay, but what does it do? well, it gets me the tools and research i need to help me make informed decisions. with fidelity i can invest in stocks, bonds, ll at a great price. wow. yeah, wow. ♪ [ male announcer ] fidelity investments. >> this week, the senate takes up a bill aimed at providing more gender equality in the workplace called the paycheck fairness act. is it unnecessary government intervention and a threat to businesses? >> stuart varney is here. what is this? >> ok, it is the paycheck act which makes sure men and women are paid the same in the same place at the same -- in the same work done. in fact, it is a massive intrusion of the government into every employer's business. every employer will have to report to the government exactly who they employ, their race, gender, their working history, how much they're paid. their experience level. all of this is a vast new reporting requirement. it is an invitation to lawsuits. can you imagine what the trial lawyers will do with all that information pumped to them by a left leaning government? >> let me ask you this. if businesses were already paid equally, they wouldn't have to pass this. would they? >> well, you've already got gender payee quality laws on the books. they're there and there are lawsuits already about this kind of thing. why do you need this whole extra level of intrusion into business? it's what the unions want. it is pushed by the unions. now, wait a minute, they want to take this up in this lame duck session of congress which already has to deal with what tax rates we're going to be paying come january 1st. extension of the unemployment benefits, the doctors fix and countless other really pressing issues. do you want them to waste their time or spend their time doing the paycheck act like this? i mean, this is just a red herring. >> interesting thing is it passes in the house and even the new senate will be democratically controlled so it probably would pass even if they don't take it up. >> have they got time to do this? with all the other stuff on their plate, far more pressing issues. do you want to see all of our taxes go up on january the 1st because they're dealing with the paycheck act at the behest of the unions. this won't fly. don't get me started on a monday morning. >> it's unbelievable on this agenda, i'm sure you'll be talking a lot about that on varney & company. who are your guests today? >> alan combs for start. we'll go head to head and the guy who makes a ton of money jumping out of helicopters and skiing down wild mountains. >> you'll live vicariously through him. >> yes, i am. t at my age, that's what i'll be doing. >> i would be, too. >> republicans in congress promising to repeal health care. now one state's governor is throwing himself into the fight. tim pawlenty is here next hour. >> then fat is good? 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[ green giant ] ho ho ho. ♪ green git >> all right. hold on to your breakfast plate today. fat is good for you but vegetables and fruit aren't. really? our next guest claims that the recommended daily diet is actually backwards and that the key to weight loss is not exercise. goodie. zoe is the author of a new book called "the obesity epidemic, what caused it, how we can stop it." and joins us right now to explain some of the more common diet and exercise myths. and she joins us from london. good morning to you, zoe. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> great to have you. >> first up, let's start with myth number one. losing weight, it's about reducing calories. if you cut calories, you lose weight at first but the body will compensate and turn down its metabolism. so that doesn't work, does it? >> absolutely. it doesn't work at all. if it worked, we wouldn't have metabolic problem let alone an epidemic. we can see it's not working and yet, we meet the definition of madness by doing the same things again and again and expecting different results. it hasn't worked yet. and it's not going to work. >> all right. over the last couple of years, we've been told you should reduce the amount of fat and that's a myth as well. you say that's wrong. >> it is wrong. we should not be eating less fat. we should be eating far more real fat than we are. we need to make the distinction between fat as found in nature in meat, fish, eggs, i'm sorry, meat, fish, eggs, dairy products, nuts we see from good, quality sources and that's where we find real fats, essential fatty acids and 1 in 5 children is now showing signs of rickets which is a fat soluble deficiency. we're ruining the health of our populations with this low fat advice. >> here's another myth. vegetables and fruits are better for you than any other food. you say that's wrong, too? >> it is unfortunately, they're just not that nutritious. if you wanted to pick any vegetable or fruit and i pinckney animal food and have a competition, i will win every time. the variety, the amount, the sheer goodness in the meats and the fish and the dairy product, it's just unbeatable. you know, fruit is good for, perhaps, vitamin c, potassium which is really easy to get a hold of anyway and in the obesity world in which i work exclusively, fructose sugar is being called the fattening carbohydrate. we don't want to be giving it to children. if you want to avoid childhood obesity in america. >> what you say is the key is managing carbs and you've got -- if you want to lose weight, reduce the carbs and you say sugar is the number one thing you should cut out of your diet. >> absolutely. it's just the number one not thing, it has no protein, no vitamins or minerals, i don't know how it meets the definition of a food. it should nourish in some way, it doesn't. the average american is eating 1100 calories of sugar and flour per person per day. they generally add nutrients to it. if that's the basis of the american diet, that's why obesity is at 33%. >> the experts say we need to exercise to lose weight. you say not so. >> we would not be where we are today if we were not at good at conserving energy as we have been at battling energy. if you transport a caveman back in time and put him at the line-up of the new york marathon, he would say what are you guys doing? that would have taken him two days to gather. and you want to run around 26 miles and burn it all off. you know, you can't get fat watching "fox & friends." you can only get fat if you put something in your mouth. >> there you go. words to live by. interesting stuff. zoe, thank you very much for joining us today from london where an ambulance is coming by there. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. interesting stuff. what do you think? e-mail us, friends at foxnews.com. do you think that could help you? president obama back from his asian tour without accomplishing his goal. is he taking a stand against certain countries or did he simply fail? former white house press secretary dana perino will be here live. then president bill clinton about to hit the big screen. pictures from his movie shoot top of the hour here on "fox & friends." 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"fox & friends" hour two for monday starting right now. >> good morning, everyone. hope you had a very good weekend. i know lots of folks had tons of snow in the midwest but on the east coast, it felt like a nice indian summer. >> i thought about you again because minnesota is in the news a lot. 400 accidents in minnesota who know how to drive in the snow. >> that's a myth. that's a myth. i used to have a driver -- when i lived in the country, i have a minnesota license plate and people would follow me in the snow because people thought i knew what i was doing. >> and you don't? >> no, not so good anymore. we begin with the fox news alert, video this morning of flames and smoke engulfing a 30-story apartment building. check out the video in shanghai, china. people are jumping from the windows to escape the burning skyscraper. eight people have died so far and unfortunately, that death toll is expected to rise. new details this morning in the case of that missing ohio family. police now have a suspect in custody. 30-year-old matthew hoffman charged with kidnapping after police found 13-year-old sarah maynard bound and gagged in his basement 10 miles from her home. maynard is said to be in good condition but her mom, brother and family friend still missing. democratic congressman charlie rangel in the hot seat this morning. his ethics trial starts at 9:00 eastern today. he's charged with 13 violations including not paying taxes on rent that he received for his beach house in the dominican republic. "the new york post" reports also that rangel may have improperly used hundreds of thousands of dollars in political action committee money. pac money. to pay for his legal defense. from the white house to hollywood, former president bill clinton ready for his close-up in what movie? "the hangover 2". tmz releasing this photo of the former president shooting a cameo on the set of the comedy in thailand. "the hangover 2" expected to be more outrageous than the original hangover. it hits theaters this spring. >> wow, that's odd. don't you think that's a little bit odd? >> the first one is a little raunchy. >> i know. i guess jimmy carter wanted too much money. >> let's take a look, go back to politics for a minute and look back at capitol hill. check out the foggy photo where congress returns for the start of a lame duck session. tax cuts, priority number one but first, the incoming numbers have to report for duty and kelly wright joins us with a rundown of what will be a very busy day in washington. hi, kelly. >> yeah, it will be a busy day indeed. let me give you an example of what took place over the weekend because, of course, this is orientation for the incoming freshmen. the speaker of the house, john boehner, for example, told republicans including the new group of freshmen members, this is no ordinary year and this is no ordinary freshmen class and that has been the theme of the weekend events for the incoming freshmen class of the g.o.p., the republican freshmen were treated to a round of activities to welcome them to washington. three main events were actually taking place and the conversation at the capitol hill club and then there was the tea party patriots chat and the constitutional congress forum. now, we talked to several of them. unfortunately, we don't have those right now. let me give you an example of what they said. incoming freshmen representative elect richard nugent of florida said what we're hearing is people do want change and that's what you heard in this election. i'm quoting him here. people want a different direction for america and then there's also a rublican who says i think that's what americans want. i think they know their professional career politicians in congress haven't done them right. the new congress will have a large wave for republicans but there's the democrats out there, although smaller in number. they, too, want to be able to represent their districts and are committed to helping the american people. for example, representative elect, a democrat from louisiana says for the first time people really are concerned about the national debt and spending and they're finally putting their foot down and saying government should operate like households. that's coming from a democrat and also representative-elect terry sowell who is a democrat out of alabama who says at the end of the day, our jobs are still the same. we represent the district and it may be a bit more challenging but the same job is to focus on what the district needs. so the new members are in town eager to do business but there's still some old business, of course, to take care of, guys, that you know of. the lame duck session of congress begins today. they have to work very quickly in dealing with everything from a new missile treaty with russia to the possible extension of the bush tax cuts and we know that is going to be a heated debate. back to you. >> and that is what we're going to talk next with -- our next guest. kelly, excellent job. thank you very much. >> dana perino joins us from the big d, dallas/fort worth. good morning to you. >> good morning. kelly was talking about how this congress, lame duck session of congress is going to have to do something about the bush era tax cuts that are supposed to go out of business at the conclusion this year. we got two soundbites to play for you. one side is ready to make a deal. the other not so much. where first, axelrod. >> we have to extend these middle class tax cuts. absolutely have to do that. we should do that permanently and give people the security of knowing their tacks aren't going to go up. that would be important for the middle class and important for the country. we cannot afford to go the additional step and permanently raise -- and permanently cut taxes primarily for millionaires and billionaires at a cost of $700 billion for the next 10 years alone. >> i hope we can get a permanent extension but if the president wants to compromise on a two or three year extension. that's important is businesses will know what their tax rates will be over the next two or three years so they can plan growth and plan to add people. if we keep things in a state of flux. i'm afraid we'll continue to have a jobs problem. >> dana, it looks like a deal has been cut. it looks like they're going to go and they're going to extend it for a couple of years. what do you think? >> i think that's what the white house has been signalling ever since they got the shalacking on election night. they need to cave early, this is what's going to happen. raising taxes on anybody in the recession is a terrible idea for job growth and i think the white house recognizes that a two or three extension will do ok for them. but the other thing that's important to remember is it is possible that this lame duck section of congress will not get it done. remember, speaker elect boehner is not the speaker until january. speaker pelosi is the speaker during this lame duck session and they are not necessarily in the mood to work with the republicans and so people ought to brace themselves. if they don't want their taxes to go up, they have to call, make sure those members of congress hear them and let them know that they want this done before the end of the year. >> and dana, i didn't get from axelrod in that statement that a compromise has been found. and i mean, he sort of gave that compromise on wednesday. he seemed to be dialing it back unless he just wants to let the president take the full credit for making the compromise. >> that's possible. but gretchen, i think that the white house is messaging on this ever since last spring has been very mixed. for example, they knew that this was -- this problem was coming. and instead of renaming the tax cut package to be something like obama pro growth package that everybody could vote for, they decided to punt. so now everybody is looking at them as the bush tax cuts. now, if they were called something else, maybe we'd be able to get them done but just can't seem to bring themselves to do it. the day after election, president obama signals his willingness to compromise. two days later in the radio address, they say they're not. saturday we wake up and find out that the white house is willing to compromise in a huffington post but david axelrod goes on the sunday talk shows and says something else. the white house knows they'll have to compromise and they're trying to wait until the last possible minute. i think the republicans are not going to budge on this. >> i thought it was so ironic, too and said we have to get politics out of this and do what's best for the economy. where am i going? i'm going to head up the president's 2012 re-elect me campaign. besides that, there's no politics involved. >> right. i think that -- go back to 2001 and i think we've been listening to president bush this past week. when he passed the tax cut bill in 2001, it's because he wanted to make it permanent because he also inherited a recession. he knew the best thing was to make sure people who paid higher taxes had the capital they needed to expand their businesses. that's how we create jobs. >> they are called the bush tax cuts and we talked to a guy whose name is on it, president george w. bush about this in our interview and here's three or four seconds of this. >> i would remind people of this fact. that 70% of the jobs are created by small businesses. many small businesses pay personal income tax because of how they're incorporated. if you're a subchapter s, you pay taxes at the individual tax level. if you're a limited partnership, you pay taxes at the personal income tax level and therefore, raising rates, the top rate will cost small businesses capital necessary to expand. >> right. >> which is what's necessary to create jobs. >> dana, what do you think? >> i think what's interesting just listening to that and having been on the road with him for the last couple of weeks as we launched the book, when he talks about creating jobs and owning businesses, he actually brings with it a tremendous amount of credibility. because he's done it. he used to be a small business owner. he was also a big business owner. and he was responsible for a lot of paychecks for many people. and he understands what it takes to feel comfortable enough as a business owner to expand your business. right now, they're -- small businesses need two things. access to capital and certainty and they certainly don't need their taxes raised. >> let's talk about what president obama was doing because for the last couple of days, actually a really long trip, more than a week, he was overseas. i'm interested in knowing your perception of this trip. there was a lot of talk about global trade and whether or not this trip was a success or an international dud. >> well, i think it's even worse than being an international dud, gretchen. i think it was actually a net negative for the white house. the perception coming out of the trip is that the balloon is off the rose. president obama certainly raised expectations. remember when he went to brazil and gave the speech, the people of the world speech and now he got rejected on two major issues. what's interesting to me on the trade piece is he hardly talked about trade the first two years. he only really started doing that in the last three months. maybe that's because he knew this deal was coming but south korea rejected the renegotiated deal that president obama wanted. why? well, they wanted the same deal that they had negotiated under president bush and which we never were able to get the congress to pass. but the european union did pass. a trade deal with south korea that mirrored the bush agreement so why should they give anymore concessions to president obama? so i think at the end of the day, it was not a good trip for them. >> sounds like a dud. now, dana is down in dallas because tomorrow, george w. bush is going to dedicate the george w. bush center on the campus of smu and you will see him live on this program as we take our program to smu tomorrow. we're probably going to talk to dana as well. dana, always a pleasure. thank you very much. >> ok. good-bye. see you later. >> steve, you'll be there with the ground breaking, right? >> that's right. >> you are very handy. would you offer to actually do the ceremonial thing, you would keep digging and maybe you can lay the foundation. >> sure. >> i will watch that! >> no kidding. >> as well as the president. don't let me down! coming up on the show, republicans in congress are promising to repeal health care. one state's governor trying to help make that plan a reality. minnesota governor tim pawlenty coming up. >> protesting full body scans, refusing to pass through security. what about the passengers? we asked the administrator of the transportation security administration that story next. 3ñ@n÷úe0ç=?ú%@0wwó;>çn >> body scanners will be coming to airports across the nation but the pilots union has advised their employees not to use them at all. if it's not safe for the pilots, why is it safe for you? why is it safe for me? why is it safe for our administrator? joining us right now to discuss this, the administrator of the tsa, john pistole. john, are the pilots -- the pilots know something that we don't? >> well, the pilots obviously travel very frequently and so their concern is that they are exposed to additional types of radiation, if you will, but as we have seen from all the tests that the national institutes of standard technology, johns hopkins, the f.d.a., number of tests out there have demonstrated the safety and efficacy of the machine so we've had some good discussions with the pilots last week continuing this week. i think we're finding a good way forward on that. >> here is a pilot, he joined us yesterday on "fox & friends." let's listen to his concerns. >> the number one priority of our pilots union is the safety and security of our passengers. so what we're advocating is a more effective use of our dollars. we need to be treating the pilots as the assets to the security enhancement rather than as victims of these procedures. >> so do you feel as though we're using them as assets? do you understand his point? >> sure, no, i understand. and it's a legitimate point. it all comes down to us and tsa and the homeland security, really for the whole u.s. government about partnerships in security and how can we best blend those two aspects in a way that makes sense that we manage risk or try to identify those such as individuals who were with box cutters trying to take over the plane. >> or someone gets a pilots uniform and some flawless i.d. and then penetrate security. john, real quick -- >> we look at. >> see something, say something. how does that fit into this? >> again, this gets back to the partnership and it's the idea -- it's common sense. when people see something that seems unusual, to report it. i did almost 27 years with the f.b.i. and virtually all the significant investigations that i was involved in and that we conducted were based on the cooperation of the american people and that's really what it comes down to, is how do we work out a partnership to say, look, we're all in this together. and as it comes to aviation security, i think everybody agrees that they want to be safe and secure on the plane. that they know everybody around them has been properly screened and everybody else wants to know you've been properly screened. >> they ought to know you shouldn't have a secret agenda. your agenda is pretty flag ran, to keep everybody safe. >> you're well on your way. john pistole, thanks so much. >> thank you, brian. >> meanwhile, straight ahead, a free pass on health care rules for over 100 companies with union ties. is this fair or are these favorites? 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you just do. minnesota governor tim pawlenty has than two months left to his term. that's not stopping him from trying to put a stop to government controlled health care. this week, the governor personally joined the other states that have filed lawsuits against the bill but with time running out, what does he expect to get accomplished? >> minnesota governor tim pawlenty joins us live from minneapolis. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> i understand you have filed a friend of the court brief as governor because your attorney general will not join the other 20 states and file suit against the federal government. >> that's right. in certain states, only the attorney general has the ability to sue or defend lawsuits. that's the case in minnesota so you couldn't join into that lawsuit in my -- on behalf of the state but she gave me permission to do it individually in my capacity as governor. that's what i've done. people didn't give it much of a chance. i think there's a real chance that some or all of obama care could be, you know, repealed through that court action and i think that would be a very positive development. >> the judge ruled it could go, correct? >> that's right. >> ok. >> which was different from the michigan case, i believe. let's talk about how you would know that health care should be repealed. in your own state of minnesota you were the first governor in decades that found a by to cut spending. that's what you think should happen on the federal level as well? >> that's exactly right. from 1960 until i became governor, the average two year increase in spending for minnesota for two years was 21% which is about the rate of increase under president obama in the first two years as president. we've got that down to 1.9% per year. in the two year period we're in now, for the first time in the history of our state, we've cut spending in real terms and obama care is one of the main problems we're gonna have in terms of federal spending going forward. that doesn't mean that we shouldn't fix health care. it is broken but obama care is the wrong way to do it. >> you know, governor, you know that you have written this great op ed and finally, you've made it so easy to understand of how we could spend more money than we possibly ain order. you break it down into a booze situation. >> well, i said, you know, if you want, in terms of government reform, you can stay up late and go to seminars and read white papers and books. if you got time, i encourage people to encourage to do that. all you need to know about government reform is this, people behave differently when you go to a wedding at a cash bar vs. an open bar. if they think something is free, they consume it differently and treat it differently. whether it's education or health care, anything else, if you create the impression that something is free and you get to consume it endlessly and the bill magically goes somewhere else, that's a system doomed to fail. >> close the open bar in washington is what you're saying. >> close the open bar. that's right. i said that recently to somebody on the east coast. if you go to a wedding when there's a cash bar vs. an open bar and they say who had a cash bar at a wedding? come to minnesota and we'll show you some in the rural areas and other parts of minnesota. >> exactly. being a native of minnesota, no kidding, and that mirrors politics to some extent as well. let's talk a little bit about this topic. it still has to do with health care. we've covered this here on "fox & friends." it looks like the white house is acquiescing to big companies when it comes to health care requests. they've asked for the waivers because they say look, we can't afford health care for the employees anymore. what do you make of that? >> i think it foreshadows a lot of the problems that will come with obama care. we had 3m discontinue part of the health care plan for retirees citing one of the reaso reasons, and you saw companies like mcdonald's saying we're going to drop our coverage if you don't give us a waiver or break from obama care so they're doing hundreds of these waivers because the system won't work and people are going to drop their coverage if they don't get a waiver. it's an indicator that obama care is broken. >> some of the people asking for those waivers, big unions. governor, stop by the studio any time you're in new york city. john, our open bar opened about five minutes ago? >> yeah. >> 10 minutes ago. so come on down. >> all right. very good. >> the governor met us at a bar when we were at a convention two years ago. >> that's right. indeed. >> we were actually doing a show from the bar, remember? >> i didn't realize that steve could pack it away that much. i remember. >> all right. thanks. >> did you see the debut of sarah palin's "alaska" last night. the new reality show profiling the former governor and her family and bears. >> the white house making a move to combatted operations in afghanistan. how soon before our troops can return home? >> and president george w. bush on the people who matter the most. how family helped form his presidency. and a moment that will make you laugh outloud the rest of the day. right back. you might also want to try lifting one of these. a unique sea salt added to over 40 campbell's condensed soups. helps us reduce sodium, but not flavor. so do a few lifts. campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ we get double mi on every purchase. echo! so we earned a trip thgrand canyon twice as fast. uhoh. we get double miles evy time we use our card. i'ltake these. no matter what we're buying. plus the damas. and since double miles add up quick, we can bring the whole gang. it's hard to beat double miles. no, we ride them. 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what was the upbringing like? it's clear the closeness is something that most fathers and sons aspire to. why weren't you more intimidated by this man? >> by the time i was 30, i finally recognized i was a different person with a different way of life. i wasn't married when i was 30. i was drinking too much. he was married. he had children and he was running a business. so i realized there was no way to compete. once i resolved that in mightnd was able to recognize his greatest gift is love. this is a man who is an awesome father. people will understand when they read this book is my relationship with him was son to father. even during the presidency. it wasn't advisor to president. it was son to father. i would call him on the phone when he was president and say you doing ok? i'd be reading ugly things being said about him and i was pained. and when i became president, i'd call them on the phone and say don't read what they're writing about me. i knew he would be pained. >> inauguration day, your mom gave you a pair of cuff links and a note and it was a note from your dad. and let me read just a passage from it. he wrote you have given us more than we ever could have deserved. you have sacrificed for us. you have given us your unwaivering loyalty and devotion. now it's your turn. >> i get emotional when i read his notes. he's a powerful writer and his words convey this great sense of love and i tell people when you're a dad, your most important job is to love your children with all their heart. >> in your case, everyone knows about your family but we didn't know much about your daughters. one thing was clear, they didn't want you to run for president, they said. they didn't love the public eye. here it is. this is from jenna. dear dad, this may seem like a rush and compulsive decision. i've been thinking about it constantly. i want to try to give you something for the 22 years that you've given me. in my dream, i didn't help you and i cried. i cried for you. i cried for you and our country and for my guilt, i don't want my dream to become a reality so if i can help in any way, please let me. >> that letter touched my heart then and touches it now. these girls who never campaigned with me. in my book, i talk about campaigning with my dad when i was a kid. they had never been to a campaign event. they had been to like a swearing in and inauguration. this is a magical year to be able to campaign for re-election and i tell the story about going to a rally in southern michigan. and i look back over my shoulder and barbara was weeping. and she had never seen a crowd cheer for her dad. >> can we briefly touch on a woman you met at a barbecue? >> you bet. i'm a single guy. i am beginning to get, you know, the desire to settle down. i decided my first 10 years out of college ought to be years in which i saw the world. as best as i could. i did a lot of interesting things. and o'neill has me come over there and i walk in and i see this stunning woman. she had blue sun dress on and it was love at first sight. it truly was. she swept me off my feet. shortly after i proposed and shortly thereafter i got married and it was the best decision i made. >> before we leave your family, i'd like to talk about something that i thought was unbelievably moving. >> entering the ballpark now -- >> what happened when the rangers finally made the world series. >> yeah. you decide to drive out a golf cart and on the golf cart next to you. >> yeah. it was unbelievable. >> is your dad and there you guys are on the mound with nolan ryan. >> yeah. what a moment. i guess an overused word is a bonding experience. dad and i didn't need a bonding experience but it was. >> it was also historic. a team you owned. >> what was historic is the rangers were in the world series. >> who called who first? >> he's a nickname guy. he probably called me 43 and i called him 41 and both of us started bill clinton 42. my mother call him your stepbrother. >> early in the book, talk about your dad and i interpret it this way pretty much terrorized some nurses at the mayo clinic. >> i was trying to explain his sense of humor. and i tell this true story believe it or not, he was lying in bed after an indication and his nurse walks in and he says man, one of my testicles are black. you can imagine the nurse's reaction and she said mr. president -- he said no, my testicles black. and she reaches for the sheet and he said are my test results back? >> that's fantastic! >> are my test results back? >> yes! >> very cute. i wonder how long it took him to think of that, right? as he's sitting there. >> thought about it for a while. >> i love hearing about his family life like that. like that, of course, we interviewed laura bush but good to get her view. >> i just get the sense of what he talks about, he said jeb should run and bush 41 said jeb is going to run. >> jeb says he's not. >> right. yet. coming up in the next hour, we'll have part three of our interview with president bush and role that faith plays in his life as he talked to us about the memoir that came out last week called decision points. number one book in the world right now. >> coming up on the show, trial being delayed now for the mastermind behind the september 11th attacks. will politics trump justice? peter johnson jr. explains next. >> then louisiana governor, yes. bobby jindal. he's a republican. he's here live to talk about his party's plan. his brand new book that recounts his life and where he is today and the latest surge in support he's getting. >> and he's a disney star and teen idol as well. had it right the first time. hannah montana, coming up with the message this time not just for kids. hey boss! do we have aflac? nah. we have something else. but if you're hurt and miss work does it pay cash like aflac does? nah. or let you spend it in any way you want like for gas and groceries? nah. or help with everyday bills like aflac does? nah nah nah. 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let's talk to fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr. >> good morning, steve. it's sickening. >> it is sickening. so we heard from eric holder who decided famously now said we're going to have the trials in new york city in a civil court. criminal court and then it hit the fan. >> apparently there's a political calculus at this point that you can't have them in new york city and no state wants them in terms of security and great philosophical issue it should be a military trial rather than a civil trial. i think the president believes that military trials are inherently flawed even though it's been passed by an act of congress twice and signed by the president and upheld earlier by the united states supreme court so they're saying in the past, we need to uphold the constitution and the american values that we hold so dear and be an exemplar and show that justice is quick and not denied and justice equally applied easily to islamic terrorists but now we seem to be saying based on a "washington post" report that we would rather hold khali shaikh mohammed in detention as a prisoner of war indefinitely even though we were aspiring to the high principles to show the world that we were better than everyone else. >> right. >> so what we have is no justice. >> none! >> none at all. and so civil trials are sacrifice for the people of new york city. >> sure. >> if that was the only remedy, then the people in new york city would put up with them. >> sure. >> the preferable choice is to have a military trial under military rules but what we have now is this indecision, this vacillati vacillation, this attitude by the united states that we're afraid to take action because of its effect in the islamic world. i am sick and tired of reading these blogs and opinion pieces that one of the reasons that terrorism flares in the world is how we treat prisoners. it goes back to the -- >> it goes down to -- now if we have a military trial, that's going to precipitate violence in the world and give terrorists a reason to go after us. to bring someone to justice who is responsible for thousands of deaths. to say that is a precipitating factor for violence and terrorism and at the same time, give up the principles of justice that we hold most dear, that is a frightening prospect. we need to act in this country and we need to say to the world that we will do justice and we will bring justice to those who killed americans. >> indeed. >> peter johnson jr. >> good week. let's go! >> all right. let's go. you're ready to go. >> ok. all right. >> excellent. >> let's have the test results to do it. >> my test results back. thank you, peter. >> all right. straight ahead, he's a disney star and a teen icon, mitchel musso from "hannah montana" with a message. this time it's not just for kids. this date back in history, the first stock ticker debuted in new york city. vegetables have important vitamins and minerals that can really help protect you. and v8 juice gives you three of your five daily servings. powerful, right? v8. what's your number? >> answer to the question of the day, lisa bonet. the winner is amy ferguson in columbia, missouri. congratulations. >> what happened to her? >> lisa? >> she's still around. this time, we know what happened to him mu. he's a teen idol known for his roles on "hannah montana" and his music has earned him pop star status. today, he's using his voice for something else. >> in los angeles, he's up early. actor and singer mitchel musso. good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. how is everybody doing? >> we're doing great. thanks for coming back to "fox & friends." we'll talk about your latest project in a moment. you're hear about something important. that is 1 in every 110 children are affected in some way by autism. and so you -- >> there you go. >> and 110 celebrities in all are doing what? >> we're getting together and we're putting together a campaign called puzzle builder. and it's where, you know, anybody can go on line and build a puzzle and you got to have like 20 pieces to your puzzle and every piece is like $5, $10 and we sell these pieces to people on line and all the money is raised for autism. >> cool. >> and it's very, very cool, you know, and i'm so glad that i was able to get involved. yeah, but i'm actually the youngest ambassador for autism speaks now which is very cool to me, you know what i mean? i get to put a little something else into these interviews other than just promoting the record and promoting the show and other things. wait for everybody to get involved here. >> if anybody wants to learn how to buy a piece of the puzzle, go to foxnews.com and we'll put you up to that link. very creative idea. let's talk about your new show. >> sure, of course, "pair of kings" is rocking right now. we're doing really, really good. we're on break. so we'll go back in january for the second season but as far as the show is doing, it's doing great, you know? it's hilarious and i love my co-stars and i think that they're, you know, on fire every single day and every single week so again, nothing to complain about. >> you do a good goofy. >> yeah? >> you're a funny guy. >> yeah. >> thank you very, very much. i appreciate that. thank you so much. >> i got a chance to review your performance four or five times an hour. mit mitchel -- >> my daughters are big fans. my son pretends not to but is watching as well. >> tell them i said hello. >> absolutely. you can come over any time. your door is open any time if you don't mind a burmese mountain dog. last time you were here you wowed us with your music. it went so well. coming back with the sophomore album. tell us about it. >> yeah. this is my sophomore album so i really, you know, this one's got to be big because if it's not -- if it doesn't do well, i'm out of here, you know what i mean? i can't have a third album and can't have a fourth album so it's like, you know, the sophomore album had to really, really up the first album and it's hard to do, you know what i mean? the first album did so well so i'm not really sure. i'm not really sure to make of it. it's still the beginning. we'll see. >> it's interesting how now the tv kid stars are also old singers, too, it's kind of a way of being multifacetted, right? >> sure. i think it's not that, you know, all of us teens want to do the singing and do the music. it's that the door is open for us to do anything that we want to do. you know, anything is possible for us to do. whatever we want to do. when people say they're doing the same thing, no, because it's allowed to do the same thing. >> some people call that the american dream, mitchel. thanks so much for being our guest today. mitchel musso, actor and singer. >> thanks to fox. >> we could be singers. >> but nobody would buy the albums. that's the problem. >> straight ahead, governor of louisiana, republican bobby jindal here to talk about his party and the republican party taking over the house. what does it mean? 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"fox & friends" starts now. >> steve: live from studio e in the heart of midtown manhattan, welcome to "fox & friends." in the on deck circle is governor bobby jindal. brian says he's got three soccer players at home. what i learned from his new book is that he actually helped deliver the third child at home. it was mainly to save money. is that right? >> my wife did most of the work. >> brian: okay. we'll go with that. i would say do all the work and work your way back is there. first, gretchen. >> gretchen: let's do a couple headlines. new details in that case of a missing ohio family, a bond hearing set to take place today for this guy. he's the suspect in custody. 30-year-old matthew hoffman charged with kidnapping after police found a 13-year-old bound and gagged in his basement. she's said to be in good condition, but her mother, brother and family friend are all still missing. a huge explosion at a mexican resort south of cancun left seven people dead. investigators say the powerful blast at the grand riviera princess hotel may have been triggered by a mix of gasses beneath the hotel. five canadian tourists and two hotel workers killed in the blast. the trial of a man accused of bombing u.s. embassies in ever coo will resume in federal court in manhattan today. he is the first gitmo detainee to be tried in civilian court. he says al-qaeda duped him into helping execute the attacks. they killed 224 people, including 12 americans. a british couple held hostage by somali pirates for more than a year are waking up to their first day of freedom. imagine that. paul and rachel chandler say they were beaten and caged like animals during their time in captivity. as you can imagine, they're glad it's over. >> it's good to be alive, happy to be free and here. >> gretchen: the somali government playing an undisclosed ransom amount for their release. they were kidnapped in october of last year and held for more than a year after yachting in the indian ocean. those are your headlines for monday. that's not all the news. congress kicks off its lame duck session this morning and tax cuts is their first priority. as you can see, these are live pictures of the first of the incoming freshmen reporting for duty. kelly wright joins us from the white house with more on the busy day. i don't see any yellow brick road for them to know where to go, kelly. >> oh, come on now. we're about two miles away from them. i don't think they could walk that far. they're too excited about what they'll be doing. they're on capitol hill. the president is fresh back from his trip to asia. he's back here at the white house and he's preparing to deal with the lame duck session of congress. the top priority being, as you mentioned, dealing with the bush era tax cuts. president obama will meet with republican and democratic leaders this week to find common ground on resolving the issue. during his return to dc, the president making it clear he does not want to extend the bush tax cuts for the upper class, the wealthy, stating, quote, it won't significantly boost the economy. and it's hugely expensive, so we can't afford it. on capitol hill, we were just seeing there, the republican freshmen as well as democrats were getting out there to congress and the republicans were treated to a round of activity to welcome them. the conversation at the capitol hill club, then there was the tea party patriots chat, and the constitutional congress forum. >> we're hearing people do want change. that's what you saw in this election. people want a different course for america. that's the challenge that was laid upon us. we talked about things on the campaign trail about cutting spending, about reestablishing america where we are and particularly as it relates to the jobs. my district, we're almost 14% unemployment. >> i think that's what america wants. i think they know that the professional career politicians haven't done them right. >> the new congress will have a large wave of republicans who have is a large influence on governing, but democrat freshmen, although smaller in number, say they are also committed to representing their districts and helping the american people. >> for the first time, at least that i've really seen, people really are concerned about the national debt. they're concerned about spending and whether it's this congress, the last congress, i think they're finally putting their foot down and saying, government should operate like households. >> at the end of the day, i think that our jobs are still the same, to represent our district to the best of our ability. it may be a little bit more challenging, but it's the same job that we've been sent up here to do and not get mired in the politics of washington, but stay focused on what our district needs. >> focusing on what their district needs, two freshmen members for the democrat party. you heard from the two freshmen from the republican party. a lot more going to be going on obviously. but the president and the lame duck congress dealing with those much talked about bush era tax cuts and we will wait and see how heated a debate that may or may not be. back to you. >> steve: all right. kelly wright live at the white house with the very latest. as the lame duck session kicks off today, something that's going to kick off exactly 52 minutes from right now will be charlie rangel's trial. he is charged with 13 ethics violations and now as it turns out, according to the new york post, they figured out that apparently he took a whole boat load of dough. >> brian: 1.4 million. >> steve: that's what he paid some of his attorneys so far. apparently he took close to $400,000 from a leadership pac and paid attorneys. is against the rules. >> gretchen: yeah. pacs are money that's supposed to be used by a politician to donate to other politicians. it specifically says you can't use it to pay his lawyers. is there any connection to the fact that he doesn't have lawyers anymore? today he's going to represent himself during these hearings. >> steve: good luck. >> gretchen: this is just one more issue for him to face as he's already facing 13 other violations. >> brian: what are the violation, from a manhattan developer, and fail to go pay taxes on rental income in the dominican, which he said, i admit, bad book keeping and he was accepting charitable donations from executives who had business before a committee that he led. ways and means committee. >> steve: top democratic house aide told one of the blogs yesterday, this really couldn't be worse for us. we've got the rangel trial, then the waters trial. this is like a nightmare. i just hope it's over soon. it will be over with if the chairman has her way within the week, 'cause she wants it done by friday. >> gretchen: right, because the democrats want this thing to be done as soon as possible. the point i was going to make is whether or not republican also make a big deal of this because based on the fact that they won big in the election, maybe they won't make this as much of a show as they may have had they not had that conclusion. >> brian: right. you're $295,000 in pac money at one point in 2010, and the 1.4 million just from his general campaign coffers, according to the new york post story, that was out yesterday. >> steve: because here is what the house rules state, quote, the only campaign funds that a member may use to pay for congressional expenses are funds of his or her principle campaign committee. not the funds of the leadership pac. that's where the money came from, or a multi candidate committee. stand by for the governor of louisiana, governor bobby jindal. welcome. >> thank you. >> brian: things change as you have your book out, we'll talk more about that later. things changed for the republicans in a matter of two years. if you are a democrat, who do you blame? >> well, look, i'm amazed the house democrats look like they're about to renominate nancy pelosi as their minority leader, from speaker to minority leader, it's almost like they didn't hear the message from two weeks ago. they didn't hear what the voters had to tell them. the voters are saying no to higher taxes taxes and no to moe spending and borrowing. the reality is president obama has led the country and led the party in a way that they have not focused on the issues that americans care the most about. the american people said we want to go back to work. we want our economy growing again. we don't want the government taking over health care or taking over car companies and running these banks and the reality is it looks like they're doubling down. they're saying, they're ignoring what the voters tried to tell them. i think that's a huge mistake. >> gretchen: one thing is because the blue dogs lost. what we got is more separation between republicans and democrats. and she has the votes because the democrats that are left are more left leaning. >> that's exactly right. when you look at the conference now, zero pro-life democrat, fewer second amendment dr. democrats, fewer democrats we need to grow the economy and cut taxes. independent voters, conservative democratic voters all said the same thing. we don't want more government spending and borrowing. here is why i think americans are worried about. we don't want to be the first american generation that leaves fewer opportunities for our children and grandchildren than we inherited from our parents. look at the deficit, over a trillion dollars a year. accumulated debt, $45,000 for every american projected to almost double to $26 trillion. we can't keep spending like this. if they don't get that message, if you continue to have the president, nancy pelosi, harry reid, if they continue to think the answer is more of our tax dollars going to washington, more spending, more borrowing, i think two years from now, you'll see another wave. >> brian: let's talk about the taxes, bush tax place, are they going to stay in place for those who make over $250,000? hard to read the tea leaves if you look at yesterday, but a compromise could be in the making. listen to gymnasticsle rod. >> we have to extend these middle class tax cuts, absolutely have to do that. we should do that permanently. give people the security of knowing their taxes aren't going to go up. that would be important for the middle class and important for the country. we cannot afford to go the additional step and permanently cut taxes, primarily for millionaires and billionaires at a cost of $700 billion for the next ten years alone. >> i hope we can get a permanent extension, but if the president wants to compromise on a two or three-year extension, what's important here, chris, is that businesses know what their tax rates are going to be over the next few years so they can plan growth and plan to add people. if we keep things in a state of flux, i'm afraid we're going to continue to have a jobs problem. >> steve: governor? >> here is my concern, when you listen to axelrod and the president, listen to the language. we can't afford to keep tax rates where they are. let's be very clear. look at government spending as a percentage of the economy. it's been about 18 to 20% of gdp. now it's close to 24%. it will go up to 26%. they're telling us they can't afford to let us keep our money. we can't afford their spending. i write in the book, when tax rates go up, we've got less freedom. the more money we send to washington, the less control we have over our own dollars and own freedoms and that's why i think there is a fundamental -- they don't get it. when they tell you they can't afford this, this is our money. >> gretchen: they obviously believe in their policies. you said something interesting when you were listening to that, that you are not so sure the president is actually going to budge. >> look, i think they think that they're looking at this through a political lens. they'll try to say the republicans only care about the wealthy and what they don't realize, you and heard the senator say this, the uncertainty is causing small businesses and large businesses, there are trillions of dollars in capital not going invested in part because of the uncertainty. and be clear, they're not talking about cutting taxes. we're talking about keeping tax rates where they are. the most important point, this is what i think the election was about. this is likely what the next two years will be fought about is that we believe, conservatives believe it is our money that they don't need to be raising more taxes. we've got a spending problem. not revenue problem. if anybody believes the answer is to spend more money, they haven't been paying attention. >> steve: governor jindal is sticking around to talk about his new book. more in just a moment. is he running? we're going to ask him. >> gretchen: hey, son, can you cosign for my car? what? more and more kids cosigning for their debt ridden parents. is this a good idea? >> steve: sally, don't get any ideas. >> steve: the bp oil rig explosion devastated the gulf coast and left residents out of work. in his brand-new book, louisiana governor bobby jindal discusses his interactions with the president and the struggles he had trying to help his state during the crisis and the governor continues with us for a cable news exclusive. all right. governor, very famously, that picture of the president of the united states, he flew in to louis arm strong airport in analysis. he reached you, you say hello, mr. president. then what does he say? >> this is the first visit since the oil spill. i thought he would be mad about the lack of boom, skimmers, bp. he pulls me aside and he's angry that we have sent a letter, a routine letter, bureaucratic letter to the department of agriculture saying, there may be laid off workers that may need food stamps. i was shocked. >> steve: wait a minute! he flies in to talk about the bp spill and when he meets with you, initially on the steps of air force one, he's talking about food stamps? >> and he's angry will about will make them look bad. he said -- what's interesting is he clearly told reporters in dc watch, i'm going to get mad at the governor, and i'm going to chew them out. so my response to him, look, if he had been mad about the spill or the damage being done and the lack of response, that would have been great. but this was a pattern with this administration. they get focused on the wrong things. not just during the oil spill, during the economic recession. instead of working to create jobs, they take over the health care system. >> steve: you're saying at that moment when -- you think that was preplanned with the president? >> oh, absolutely. we got calls from multiple dc reporters saying, hey, we heard the president was mad at the governor. what were they talking about? right there in that moment, you seen me telling them, mr. president, we're not mad about food stamps. we're mad there is no skimmers or plans. we put together our own plan. i didn't mind him being angry. i wish he was angry about the right thing. >> steve: no kidding. the second time he comes to visit, he complains you're on tv too much complaining? >> at the end of a meeting with other parish presidentses and other governor, he chews out me and others saying, i don't want to see you guys criticizing me on tv and the president. which i thought was very odd because again, they seem more worried about their perception than actually fighting the oil. that was the meeting where we had to tell him about the red tape. let me remind you about the response, the federal response. >> steve: it sunk! >> absolutely. this is the same federal government, they shut down vacuum barges because they wanted to count the number of life jackets and fire extinguishers on the boat. the skim sat on the dock for 48 hours while there was oil in the bay. we took the coast guard in the air to see it themselves. they still couldn't deploy. it still sat there. it seemed like they weren't angry about the right things. >> steve: no kidding. that's the opening chapter in your book. the last captain service called what? so you say, nice book, bobby. now what? >> i talk about a grandchildren debt relief package. i think this election two weeks ago was about that same point. this administration has been focused on the wrong things. why not amend our constitution required to balance the budget? why not take a super majority vote before they try to raise our tax as soon as amend the constitution, let's give the president the line item vetoes. >> steve: you say make congress a part-time job. >> absolutely. pay congressmen to stay home. more damage gets done when they're in washington, d.c by the way, we've done all these things at the state level. we cut taxes and spending and balanced our budget. why can't washington do the same thing? >> steve: no kidding. they're watching right now. this is a great book, called "leadership in crisis." thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> brian: food stamps. that's crazy. >> steve: hey, son, can you spare your signature? more and more kids are cosigning for their parents. but there are pitfalls. what parents and kids need to know next. and what you haven't heard yet from president george w. bush. coming up, how he found faith and how it's connected to a famous newscaster. male announcer: introducing the world's first 100% custom, invisible, digital, and fully programmable hearing aid, loaded with today's most advanced hearing technologies, including our new soisticated noise reduction system. this amazing new invisible hearing aid is custom made, allows you to talk comfortably on the phone, sounds natural. - the quality of sound is excellent, and yet they're, you know, the size of a thumbtack. announcer: to learn more, call: today. >> brian: parents always foot the bill for their kids by cosigning leases and backing their purchases. but with the economy in the pits, get this, moms and dads are forced to turn the tables and ask their kids to cosign for them. is this a good idea? >> gretchen: let's ask this guy, the vice president of lease trader. he has seen a 30% increase since 2008 of adult kids cosigning for their parents. good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> gretchen: there is a reality here because you've seen this amazing increase. what's going on? >> well, how this all started is lease trader.com helps a person get out of their car lease that they no longer want to be in the contract, even midway through. and they transfer it over to somebody else anywhere in the country, but if you're that person that wants to take over the vehicle or the lease, you've got to have good credit. so what's happening now is these people that want to take over the cars on leasetrader.com, they need their kids to help cosign on the lease so they can have a successful transaction. >> brian: their kids don't necessarily have a negative history because they don't even have a history. are you buying that? i mean, the fact that a 20-year-old kid with nothing on their credit report negative really has nothing positive either. >> well, what's happening is that the parents, if you look at the parents' situation, these are people who have run into major problems with their houses and their mortgages and their credit has literally been ruined. parents from the ages of 45 to 55 or 60. so they're calling on their kids ages 21 to 29, who they at least have a better credit standing and for people who really need to shop for a car, this is really their only option. >> gretchen: well, then could we see trouble down the road? because i'm thinking about young adults having to pay out college loans or pay off, i should say, or even looking to save money for a house. >> yeah, we've started to track this since 2008, which we all know that's pretty much when the recession started. but a couple of things to keep in mind here is that these are all very short terms that people are taking over, from 12 to 14 to 16 months. they're low payments and we have never seen any situations where a child runs into any problems after the transaction goes through on leasetrader. >> brian: thank you for joining us, good stats and something to look for. >> thank you. >> brian: 26 minutes after the hour. >> gretchen: did someone forget to pay the electric bill? it was lights out in more ways than one at last night's giants game. >> brian: can you believe that? then he was not a religious person, but then everything changed for president george w. bush. coming up, what you have not heard yet about the president's faith. >> gretchen: a sequel is on tap for the movie "the hangover." wait until you hear which former president will be making a cameo and it's not gwb. >> brian: or truman. okay, now here's our holiday gift list. aww, not the mall. well, i'll do the shopping... if you do the shipping. shipping's a 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"financial serial killers." bret baier, colonel oliver north will be here talking a little about the war. a democrat who came out and said to president obama, don't run again. >> steve: no kidding. all right. meantime, throughout all the good times and bad, president bush relied strongly on his faith to guide him. in part 3 of our sit down with the former president, we take a look at that faith and how he found it. it's all from his highly anticipated memoir that came out last week called "decision points." ♪ >> steve: in the book you talk about how when you were attainedover, you went to church because it was mandatory. at yale you didn't. you started -- >> i went to church to make sure i didn't irritate my mother. >> steve: and when the girls came along, you figured that was the thing to do. you would go to church and you would sit in pews, and you were kind of listening but not engaged until you met -- >> billy graham. i listened but didn't hear. and i did feel a responsibility, laura and i felt we had the responsibility to expose our girls, what i call planting the seed for our young children so ultimately, they would be able to choose. i believe in free will and i was not a religious person. i mean, i was of religion, but i really didn't understand religion. and i met billy and billy kind of nurtured the seed that my parents had planted and i began to read the bible and better understood that religion is not self help, that it's not a self improvement course, but it is a religion that says there is a living god who loves you unconditionally and that if you place that living god in the center of your life, your life will be improved because of the love of the living god. in other words, you succeed through god's grace. >> steve: in 2005, you and the first lady were at the funeral mass for pope john paul ii and you were there, saint peter's and at one point she said, if you're ever going to pray for a miracle, now is the time. >> it's true. and i prayed for peter jennings who was suffering from disease and i've often wondered about that, why him? i don't know. it ain't a question why. i just did. >> steve: you also talk about how as they were carrying the pope's casket up the stairs at saint peter's basilica, it was a cloudy day, until -- >> until the pine casket was raised and the sun came through. i'm telling you, i believe if you keep an open mind and listen intently and look clearly, you can find the presence of a living god. and i felt the sunshining on the casket was such a moment. >> steve: some of the remembrances from his new book called "decision points," the president will be joining us live tomorrow from the campus of smu with the george w. bush intercenter will be dedicated. we'll be there for the ground breaking and you'll see it live on "fox & friends." >> gretchen: everyone knew how important his faith was during the presidency. it's interesting to hear him daughter. >> steve: more from our interview on wednesday right here on "fox & friends." >> brian: keith schueler is a democrat really in name only. he seems to be moderate toward conservative and might be a lonely guy. he's one of the few speaking out saying, can we sober up, please, democratic party? why are we bringing back nancy pelosi if no one else is going to run, i will. listen. >> well, obviously if she doesn't step aside, then i'm fully aware i'm going to press forward. i can add and subtract pretty well. i don't have the numbers to be able to win, but i think it's a proven point for moderates and the democrat party that we have to be a big tent. we have to be all inclusive. we have to invite everyone into the party. >> gretchen: and this would be a symbolic gesture then because he acknowledges that he can't win. here is the deal, he and other democrats who are more moderate would be happy with steny hoyer if he would assume the minority leadership position. they're just not happy with nancy pelosi because they see her as way more to the left than steny hoyer so he said, i said i was gog do this and now i'm going to do it. >> brian: i also think play noose this, i think plays into the tone in which he sets it, let alone which he believes. calling the president a loser, you know, basically a horrible leader, and going over and over again of calling the c.i.a. liars, they lie to me all the time. things like that have nothing to do with the agenda. they see someone very polarizing and almost gloating when she became speaker and if you want to turn the page, maybe like newt gingrich said, i lost a lot of momentum, i'm gog -- going to turn the gavel over. >> steve: they invent add new job for him so he doesn't challenge steny hoyer. assistant leader. >> brian: assistant to the whip? >> steve: something like that. >> gretchen: please tell me what a whip is. but that's for another discussion. maybe whip would be on this word list. let's give you the 2010 top words. can you believe we're almost to the end of 2010? i can't. number five, guido and guidette. that comes from jersey land. >> steve: this comes from the ts very, "jersey shore." these are the top words of 2010 -- 29 from the global language monitor and apparently they use some sort of log rhythm to figure out what people are talking about. number four is refute conveyed. this is a word that was originated with governor sarah palin. it's a combination of refute and repudiate. >> brian: i love it. >> gretchen: number three is the narrative. i think that has some political committeation. and number two is brian's favorite. >> brian: the horn that just blows for no apparent reason. people just blow this horn and ruin sporting events. then the spill cam. it was made famous sadly because of the bp disaster. it kept pouring out and we assumed, by the way, that it stopped. 'cause we've cut down the spill cam. >> gretchen: as we said earlier, that was a good thing that we had the spill cam because that's how the whole world really became close and personal with the oil spill because when you saw that amount of oil gushing out every single minute of every day, you thought about it. >> steve: sure. those are the words on their list. what would you say? what would you put on it? e-mail to us and we'll fry to share some later on. do you know what the number one name was in the world? it was ho. number two name? >> gretchen: not names like the popular names. >> brian: who is first? who? >> steve: who is on first. >> brian: four years old, he went into emergency surgery and slipped into heaven. he says he met people he never knew, like his grandfather and people he never learned about, like john the baptist. that boy here live. >> gretchen: first, did president obama. our next guest is giving him an f for his stop in seoul. he reports and you decide. >> it's official, singer jessica simpson is engaged to former nfl player eric johnson. the announcement comes a week after her ex-husband, nick, announced his engagement to vanessa minillo. and from the white house to hollywood, former president bill clinton ready for his close-up in the sequel to the hangover called "hang over2", tmz releasing this photo of the former president about to shoot a cameo on the set that is set in thailand. it hits theaters this spring. >> brian: president obama came up short on the key goals of his trip to asia, sadly. he suffered a pair of diplomatic defeats at the g-20 summit on friday by fail to go ink a new free trade agreement with south korea and by not being able to get world leaders to take a tougher stance against china's currency rates. so did the president strike -- why did the president strike out? the author a -- of a book is here. >> these wounds were self inflicted and grievous. the president was telling everyone monday and tuesday, oh, it will come to terms. and then on wednesday, he stuns his friends by saying, look, there is no deal with south korea. this deal is important economically, also strategically and then at the g-20, as you point out, when the world was supposed to come together to chase after the chinese to get them to float their currency, we end up being branded as the currency criminal because of the federal reserve's play on quantitative easing. >> brian: first off, what happened with the south korean agreement? shouldn't his people have set the table for him so it would have been a formality for him? >> absolutely. when renounced things had to be done by seoul, he had five months to do this. the south koreans wanted the deal. everyone wanted a deal. this is just an issue of competence, about not being able to do something which is important not only to the south koreans, but to us. >> brian: some people say it has to do with the car unions here wanting certain deals that the south koreans aren't willing to deal. when it comes to beganning up on china, why didn't the world see like we did? >> the federal reserve's easing plan, is going to flood the world with 600 billion more dollars at one shot. of course, it's going to drive the greenback down and it's going to cause asset bubbles. >> brian: essentially if we went up to china and said, why are you suppressing their currency, they had every right to say, you're doing the same thing? >> absolutely. that's what the chinese did. president obama handed them a weapon and they turned right around and they drove it right through him. this is something that did not have to happen. if they were to have qe 2, second have had it next month, avoid all of this. >> brian: china and germany, they ganged up on us and they were upset by us. everybody wants to sell. nobody wants to buy. president obama came out for the first time and said, china spends an enormous time to keep its currency undervalued. that's a direct confrontation to end. almost like a shot over the bow. >> clearly. what's happening now, and this is why it's significant, is that 18 countries are depressing the value of their currencies in reaction to china. this means the currency war that people have been talking about is going to get worse. if we want an historical parallel, it's the 1930s tariff war which deepened the great depression. we're going to do the same thing with currencies. >> brian: they don't look at us at economics, so we can not lead people. they're using this time to criticize. your book is excellent "the coming collapse of china" and your column on sunday. >> thank you. >> he doesn't have to wonder what heaven is like because at four years old, he went through and his proof? it's going to give you chills. the boy here next with his remarkable evidence. first, let's check in with martha mccallum. the world is okay if martha is back at work. what do you have planned on your show? >> thank you so much. good morning. coming up at the top of the hour, a family disappears and now the 13-year-old daughter is found held captive in a basement. this is a bizarre awful story. we're getting new details on what the police are searching for in this case and here they come, the gop freshmen got big plans, folks. we hear whether or not they can pull it off. we'll see you at the top of the hour. >> gretchen: an amazing story for you. a life saving surgery ended up being a life altering experience. he was just shy of four years old when he went in for emergency surgery. he slipped out of consciousness and that's when he says he entered into heaven. he met people he never knew, like his grandfather, and st. john the baptist. colten and his father, todd, highlight this remarkable experience in the new book "heaven is for real." they both join me this morning. good morning. >> good morning, gretchen. >> gretchen: what an amazing story. todd, let me start with you. you're facing a crisis. your son in emergency surgery. you think you might not be able to save him. he recovers. it's a miracle, but then you hear a story you never thought you'd hear. >> yeah. we went through the scariest ordeal of our lives, watching our son suffer. he was misdiagnosed. he had appendicitis. they thought he had the stomach flu and by the time they figured out what was wrong with him, we figured his appendix had burst for five days. he was one really sick child. when we finally got out of the hospital, all of a sudden it took a long time, but he started sharing stories and things with us and all of a sudden, we realized something special happened when he was in the hop. >> gretchen: because colton, you were able at that age, four, to tell your parents that you were above them while you were being operated on and where did you see them? >> well, i saw my dad in a little room talking to god. then i saw my mom in another room talking on the phone and talking to one of her friends. >> gretchen: and todd, there was no way he would have known about that. right? >> no. why those events were happening, he was in surgery under anesthesia and he starts describing where we were at and what we were doing, i was stunned. i was like, how does he know that? that's where our story began. >> gretchen: he also started to tell you about pop, who was your grandfather. was your grandfather or his grandfather? anyway, he had been deceased for 30 years? >> yeah. it was my grandfather. colton's great grandfather and i was really close to him as a child and pop was a special person in my life, but he was killed in a car wreck before i turned seven. he can recognize pictures of pop as a young man. talks about the time i spent with him as a child. it's incredible. >> gretchen: you also, colton, say that god is a very, very big person. right? >> yeah. he can actually fit the entire world in his hands. >> gretchen: wow. so many people want to know what you now know. what about jesus? >> well, jesus, he had a rough but kind face, sea blue eyes, and a smile that lit up the heavens. >> gretchen: what about old people? they are not up in heaven. right? >> no. just young adults. >> the good news is when you go to heaven, it will be the young version. >> gretchen: a lot of us, including myself, like to hear that part of it. todd, i want to get what happened about a miscarried child that you and your wife had and what colton told you. >> yeah. we were in the living room one day and just like any typical day and he is four at the time. he kind of comes bouncing in the room and goes up to his mom and says, mom, i have two sisters. and it took us a while to ask him, what are you talking about? he looked at his home and he said, mom, you had a baby die in your stomach, didn't you? and time stopped. she's like, who told you? he's like, she did, she told me she died in your tummy and -- wow. >> gretchen: amazing story. stick around, we'll be right back in two minutes with more of the story. no pills, no pain. how can you get pain relief without taking pills around the clock? 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