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report, zimmerman claims that he was attacked and beaten by martin before the shooting. and witness accounts corroborate that account too. >> happening right now, a deadly wildfire in colorado. take a look at these pictures. strong winds are fueling all of those flames. at least a handful of homes burned to the ground. that's jefferson county. evacuations have been ordered for nearly 1,000 homes. researchers report that deepwater horizon oil spill caused a lot of damage to coral formations. scientists spotted one coral colony covered in what they call black couple seven miles from the scene of that gusher. president obama caught in an awkward open mike moment. >> this is my election. after my election i have more flexibility. i understand you. i transmit this information to vladimir and i stand with you. >> the president is trying to make light of that moment but his republican rivals are not laughing. >> the highest court in the land will be getting to the heart of the health care reform debate. starts about five hours from now. are you ready. >> bring it on. >> bring it. hundreds of protesters outside the supreme court yesterday. for and against the president's health care overhaul. we're going into day two, folks. it all gets down at 10:00 a.m. eastern but today's big issue is really the core of the issue, can the government force you to buy something you may or may not want? americans seem to be split about this but does tip one way. a new cnn poll shows 43% favor what's called the insurance mandate, the individual mandate. 50%, though, oppose it. politics is huge here too. it's playing such a role in this debate. outside the court, inside the house, inside the senate and of course presidential as well. 68% of democrats approve of the president's health care reforms. 10% of republicans support it. that should tell you the story. listen to the republican candidates though on the campaign trail for a big part of the story. >> it's a power grab by the federal government. it violates the 10th amendment. it violates the economic principles of economic freedom in this country. it's wrong. it needs to be repealed. >> it's going to take our freedom away. it will destroy the economy of this country and bloom the size of the government and it's going to increase our deficit. this is a loser on every single front >> that's pretty strident stuff but many who support this legislation. our congressional correspondent kate bolduan is live in washington, d.c. this morning. here's my thought. you and i talk about this stuff pretty regularly. but it is a lot to try to digest. 2700 pages, about, what, 450 some odd provisions. it's a lot for the public to digest so how much do you think the public is getting from the campaign trail and from what politicians are saying and how much do they really know about this stuff? >> reporter: well, i mean i think it comes down to the individual. i think a lot of people followed this fight through congress. i think -- but also they are hearing a lot of information on the campaign trail, as well and you can be sure more eyes are on this supreme court case than i think we've seen probably in a decade. i don't know -- everyone is talking about the same time something this big came long was the bush v. gore case. when you think about it, it is very complex law but this issue today is pretty simple to understand and gets to the crux of the fight and the constitutional battle they're facing. this individual mandate. they're having two hours of oral arguments on the question, is the individual mandate constitutional? this is the provision requiring americans nearly all americans to have some form of health insurance beginning in 2014 or pay a financial penalty, three federal judges previously ruled that this law, the law to be constitutional, one other federal judge ruled it to be unconstitutional in that ruling calling it a breathtaking in its expansive scope and this circuit split all but assured the supreme court would have to take up the matter and have the final say on this and that's what they're doing. a coalition of 26 states are suing and challenging this saying the federal government does not have the power under the constitution to force americans to buy something they may or may not want but important to also point out obama administration, they are supporting it defending this law saying that americans respect necessarily choosing -- choosing to participate because every american will need health care in their lives and say it is constitutional. >> i know you spent the better part of the day at the supreme court and talked to one of the attorneys on the part of fighting this at the supreme court. i always love to know what it's like being an attorney walking in ready to do your arguments. tell me what he said. >> reporter: this is paul clement, the man representing the coalition of 26 states. he is the man taking on the obama administration. he's become really the go-to guy for conservative causes, really a rock star in conservative legal circles and he will be speaking today in this -- in these oral arguments. i had a moment to speak with him a little while ago to pick his brain about what he was thinking leading as he was heading into the courtroom. take a listen to this. do you still get nervous when you go before the justices. >> absolutely. have you seen the arguments? have you seen the justices. have you seen what kind of questions they ask? i'm not crazy. i continue to get nervous. it's a nerve-racking business. >> reporter: do you leave the courtroom knowing that's a "w." >> no, definitely not and have seen too many arguments where i did the argument or somebody else you think maybe they're going this way and then they surprise you. >> reporter: still listening closely to where the conservative justices, where their line of questioning is because everyone is trying to get the inkling where are they leaning? >> it's what we call reading the tea leaves from the questions. you've got your work cut out for you. thanks, kate. the parents of trayvon martin willing on capitol hill today meeting with members of the congressional black caucus. they're also expected to attend a house hearing on racial profiling and hate crimes. meantime, there are new details and new questions about the circumstances surrounding trayvon martin's death. a police account published in "the orlando sentinel" said george zimmerman told them he was attacked by trayvon before the shooting and that witnesses corroborate the story. zimmerman's friend told cnn's anderson cooper last night it's proof the shooting was in self-defense and not racially motivated. >> so he is saying he was on his way back to his vehicle and trayvon martin actually attacked him? >> yes, that's what he is saying. what's what the police report is saying. that's what he has talked with me about. i do believe george zimmerman was in fear for his life, yes. i do believe at some point in that confrontation george felt like and believed with all his heart he had to make a decision to defend himself and to save his life. >> other witnesses tell cnn that is not what they saw. >> zimmerman was standing over the body with basically straddling the body with his hands on trayvon's back and it didn't seem to me that he was trying to help him in any way. it didn't seem to me -- i didn't hear any struggle prior to the gunshot and i feel like it was trayvon martin that was crying out because the minute that the gunshot went off, the whining stopped. >> meantime, there were more calls for zimmerman's arrest at a town hall meeting in sanford, florida. trayvon's parents admit their son had been suspended from school because of marijuana residue in his backpack but say that's irrelevant. >> they've killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation. >> rallies demanding justice for trayvon continue across the country. protests held in a dozen cities stretching from atlanta all the way to san francisco. martin savidge is live in sanford. what is the reaction to all the latest, martin? >> reporter: well, there's been a lot of reaction in many different directions actually. first of all, this information coming out, this leaked police report was certainly very unsettling to the familiy membes and to a great number of protesters. they begin to wonder what about the timing. it was exactly one month since the shooting of the 17-year-old and suddenly this police report comes out and it's a police report that now apparently paints the young student, the young 17-year-old as the aggressor in this particular case and up to this point, of course, many people have been demanding the arrest of george zimmerman. now, it would seem to support the account that george zimmerman has given to authorities but as you've already heard there's a great deal of conflict between some of the testimony that other witnesses have given, the family members certainly don't believe this is a true account. however, the attorney for george zimmerman says, yes, it fits the whole story they've been telling because george zimmerman has a broken nose and has injured to the back of his head and all of that would support the idea there was a fight that took place, however, family members and supporters of trayvon martin will say, look, this wouldn't have happened if george zimmerman hadn't spotted their son and made a call and said that he looked suspicious and that was the key trigger of events. so it has not settled anything in this controversial case, zoraida. >> all right, martin savidge, live for us in sanford, florida. thank you very much. we want to remind you 7:30 eastern on "starting point" soledad will speak to joe oliver who you saw briefly in the report. a wildfire burning in jefferson county. officials warn it has the potential to be really bad. at least one person has been killed. evacuations have been ordered. livestock have been removed from the area. at least a handful of homes have been destroyed and nearly 900 are in danger. officials say it has been an extremely dry month and that is fueling the fire. strong winds are also preventing firefighters from getting a handle on this situation. let's go right to rob marciano at cnn atlanta for an update on this. how is their area being affected? will they continue with strong winds. >> the wins have died down throughout much of colorado but the damage done, as you see, the winds yesterday were gusting over 60 miles an hour in spots. 82 as a matter of fact in wyoming, red mountain pass and grand junction seeing 65 all part of a strong system that moved through southern california the day before now moving through the plains and high wind warnings for a good chunk of nebraska and parts of south dakota, as well for winds gusting 50 to 60, maybe more than that miles per hour throughout the day today. this will be a dangerous spot for wildfires but that fire that's burning, deadly fire in jefferson county, the winds will be lighter today. no rain no the forecast but hopefully it will allow firefighters to get a handle on things. severe thunderstorms in chicago and high pressure building into the northeast. chilly shot of reality feeling more like march should feel, i suppose. with freeze warnings posted from the lower hand of michigan all the way to the delmarva and some of these areas were in the 80s last week, the fruit trees have already bloomed so there may be damage to some of those orchards. 76 for the high in chicago, atlanta, after a chilly start, 51 degrees in new york city. that is a far cry from what we saw a week ago. guys, back to you. >> thanks very much, rob marciano. this just in, folks, gas prices rising, 18 days straight now. aaa just announced the new average, $3.90 a gallon, a bit of an increate, just 1/10 of a cent but 10 cents away from $4 gas. gas prices up 20%. >> oh, my gosh. >> inching closer and closer. people start adjusting their spending habit as parentally when you hit $4. it's that psychological barometer. we're only ten cent as way. some places, i hear you and feel your pain, you're already paying it and have been for a long time but that's a national average. >> still ahead new information on an afghanistan -- the sergeant accused of killing 17 afghan civilians was spotted by fellow troops in between the killing sprees. can some of the deaths been avoided? 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"the sentinel" quotes authorities as saying much of the account is corroborated by witnesses. we're also learning more about trayvon martin, that he had been suspended from school three time, once after marijuana residue was found in his bag. trayvon's parents confirmed that last suspension but say it is irrelevant to this case. they will be meeting in washington today planning to meet with members of the congressional black caucus and also they're expected to attend a house hearing on racial profiling and hate crimes. thousands of strangers from across the country have been rallying behind those parents. protesters hitting the streets in a dozen cities demanding an arrest of george zimmerman. a florida grand jury scheduled to begin deliberations next month against the neighborhood watch leader, george zimmerman, but only if that case goes to the grand jury. so far, no such consideration. george zimmerman has claimed he shot martin this self-defense. his lawyer says his client plans to invoke his stand your ground as a defense so how does that law actually work and what does it mean in this particular case? someone who might know something about it, brad conway, an attorney in florida, in 2008 he successfully defended a security guard who shot and killed a young man who was acting aggressively joins me now live. thanks for coming in to talk to us. i appreciate it. >> good morning. my pleasure. >> i want to say right off the bat for those who don't necessarily know what stand your ground is, when does it come into effect? when the police arrive on the scene and make a determination they don't need to make an arrest because they can see that someone was acting in self-defense or in the courts later on? >> well, it's a little contemplate indicate -- complic. if the facts corroborate what the shooter or what the individual who used deadly force is saying, if the facts don't corroborate what he's saying or she's saying you've got to go to other witnesses. if there no other witnesses typically it will be left up to a grand jury to determine what the facts are. >> ah, so typically if there are no other witnesses and at this point on the scene we don't have the full picture, but it seemed as though george zimmerman was the only witness alive to give his account to the responding police officers and this one didn't automatically go to the grand jury which is the big complaint that's out there. >> it is the big complaint and in this case, you know, what probably should have been done is a more thorough investigation and the case that i handled, police were on scene taking statements from witnesses that were in their homes, standing nearby as well as all of the security officers that were involved in the shooting. so they immediately preserved the evidence and the facts for later presentation to a grand jury. if that was necessary, but there's a police review, a state attorney review and decision was made in my case to let a grand jury review it just to make sure that all the ts have been crossed and is dotted. >> you went in with your client and took him in to the police to give his account and to sort of voluntarily say, here, listen, i want you to know everything before memories start to dry up. why was it you did that? >> self-defense in the justifiable use of deadly force is an affirmative defense so when you use deadly force, you better be ready to articulate why you were in ferrero for your life or great bodily injury. in this case after talking to the three security guards and my client, i knew that the best thing to do was get in there right then, preserve all of their testimony and let the police take further statements. >> so then, brad, do you think this in particular case the attorney for george zimmerman should be doing the same thing or are there nuances different? in your case we didn't have people marching all over the country and demanding, you know, justice and then also in one particular case the new black panthers putting on a $10,000 bounty for the capture as they call it, citizen's arrest of george zimmerman but in this case do you think his attorney should think about the same action you took? >> absolutely. he should be cooperating with authorities. he should make sure there is a full statement, if the injuries that george zimmerman claims he received that evening did, indeed, occur they should have been documented and provided to law enforcement provided to the state attorney's office and ultimately provided to the grand jury if they hear it. >> that's a good if. i want to talk about the big if here. if george zimmerman's account so far as we know it in the facts and clearly you and i don't know everything and nor does anybody out there in tv land, but if the facts as we know it so far are true, did george zimmerman act lawfully that night? >> if you take george zimmerman's attorney's statement as fact, he did act lawfully because what he's say something that he was attacked by trayvon martin from behind, that he was on the ground being beaten by trayvon martin. >> brad, not just his attorney, not just what his attorney says, what he has said to the police, what the police have leaked, all the different accounts from the witnesses, what we know so far is the collection of facts and, again, they're incomplete as we know it in the public sector but in those collections now represent the story, did he act lawfully? >> if you take those facts as true, yes, he did. because he was on the ground being beaten and that's when he used -- >> so should it go to the grand jury? >> i believe it should. ironically, this is a case where both individuals could claim that they had a right to stand their ground. if you turn around and zimmerman was the pursuer, trayvon martin did not have a duty to retreat. so the state would claim that on behalf of trayvon martin, his lawyer will advance that. >> sure. >> and those facts on behalf of zimmerman. >> good to talk to you again. i know we spent a lot of time together on the casey anthony case. thanks for your insight. >> thank you, ashleigh. >> brad conway joining us from sanford. at 8:30 eastern time on "starting point" with soledad o'brien she'll talk to the florida state attorney angela corey investigating the trayvon martin case and see if she can shed insight as to whether it will go to the grand jury or not. soledad will host a town hall meeting "beyond trayvon: ra race & justice in america." see it friday 8:00 p.m. and 10 p.m. eastern time on cnn. rick santorum is trying to explain his ugly confrontation with a "new york times" reporter and he seems to be suggesting it is all mitt romney's fault. on sunday santorum called romney the worst republican in the country to put up against president obama. "the new york times" reporter jeff zulani questioned him about that comment. here's their exchange. >> would you guys quit distorting what i'm saying. >> you think he's the worst -- >> on the issue of health care because he fashioned the blueprint. i've been saying it in every speech. quit distorting my words. if i see it, it's [ bleep ]. come on, man. what are you doing? >> well, you know the romney camp pounced on that. question the santorum's temperament in order to be president and santorum was on "the situation room" with wolf blitzer yesterday. here is how he explained that outburst. >> they sent a romney person to our speech. he fed the line to all the reporters. we saw it happening. and everybody in that -- everybody in that room, even the reporter said we understood what you meant but the romney people said this to us so we had to ask you about it. that's what happened. look, i understand the game. but this is -- you talk about desperate and pathetic, mitt romney can't run on his record. >> savnts is nontorum is not ap. if you haven't cursed out a "new york times" reporter during the course of a campaign you're not really a real republican, he says. that "the new york times" reporter was jeff zelany -- i think i mispronounced his name. >> i don't think it goes with a sweater vest. the open mike comment that everybody is talking about, a private conversation in south korea between presidents. whispering quietly touching each other's arms. obama and dmitry medvedev discussing nato missile defense systems in europe. you've got to listen real close and read along with your screen too as president obama is caught on tape asking medvedev for a little space on the issue until after november's election. >> my last election. after my election i have more flexibility. >> i understand you. i transmit this information to vladimir and i stand with you. >> how about that? well, president obama decided to make a little light of his open mike comment because the next morning he started joking, by covering up the microphone before shaking medvedev's hand. republicans though don't think this is funny and mitt romney took it as an opportunity to pounce and this is what he told our wolf blitzer. >> russia continues to support syria supports iran, has fought us with the crippling sanctions we wanted to have the world put in place against iran. russia is not a friendly character on the world stage and for this president to be looking for greater flexibility where he doesn't have to answer to the american people in his relations with russia is very, very troubling. >> he didn't stop there. mitt romney also accused the president of pulling his punches with the american people. for their part, though, folks at the white house said that mitt romney was distorting what the president actually said. all right. coming up from king of the world to king of the sea. 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americans are divided. a poll shows 43% favor the mandate and 50% oppose it. politics are playing a big role in this debate. 68% of democrats aprove of the president's health care reforms, just 10% of republicans support it. mitt romney and rick santorum slamming the president and the law. >> it's a power grab by the federal government, it violates the tenth amendment t violates the economic principles of economic freedom in this country. it's wrong. it needs to be repealed. >> it's going to take our freedom away. it's going to destroy the economy in this country, raise unemployment rates, balloon the size of the government and dramatically increase our deficit. this is a loser on every single front. >> and kate bolduan is live from the supreme court. you got to be a little nerdy to sit through all of the arguments but today is really the meat and potatoes of it. can you explain why today is so important? >> reporter: this is the issue this entire three days really hinges on, two hours of oral arguments getting to the core question is the individual mandate constitutional. we keep talking about the individual mandate but to remind our viewers this is a requirement in the health care law that would require nearly every american to have some form of health insurance in 2014 or pay a financial penalty. three lower courts previously found the law constitutional, although one other court found the law unconstitutional, this circuit's split, the supreme court would have to step in to make the final decision. a coalition of 26 states have come together to challenge the law saying this individual mandate is unconstitutional. their argument is that the constitution does not give the government the power to force americans to buy a product that they may not need or want but the obama administration is defending its position saying the law is constitutional because it's not necessarily a choice, if you will. every american is going to have to need medical care in their lifetime so it's not a choice to participate in the health care market. we'll be watching closely to see whether conservative justices, where their line of questioning will go this morning. >> it's got to be nerve-racking to face the justices. we spoke to the lawyer arguing against obama's plan. >> reporter: his name is paul clement, what of a rock star in conservative legal circles, the go-to guy, arguing for gun rights a firmive action and now the biggest of all health care. i had a moment to pick his brain before going into the arguments. do you still get nervous before you go before the justices? >> absolutely. do you see what kind of questions they ask in i'm not crazy. that's why i continue to get nervous. it's a nerve-racking business. >> reporter: do you leave the courtroom knowing that's a "w"? >> no, definitely not and i've seen too many arguments whether i did the argument or somebody else, you walk out maybe they're going this way and they surprise you. >> reporter: he will be in the spotlight starting at 10:00 on capitol hill. we'll watch close things today and tomorrow we're still not going to get the final opinion from the justices like will i for a few months, into june so everyone has to hold on. >> it's still going to be interesting to see what comes out today. kate bolduan thank you very much. the parents of trayvon martin are taking their case to capitol hill today, expected to attend a congressional forum on racial profiling, and hate crimes. in the meantime new details concerning the teenager's death last month emerging. according to a leaked police report published in "the orlando sentin sentinel" newspaper george zimmerman told police trayvon martin attacked him, bashing his head to the ground. he says he opened fire in self-defense and zimmerman's friend tells anderson cooper that the shooting was not racially motivated. >> he's saying he was on his way back to his vehicle and trayvon martin actually attacked him? >> yes, that's what he's saying. that's what the police report is saying, that's what he has talked with me about. i do believe george zimmerman was in fear for his life, yes. i believe at some point in that confrontation, george felt like and believed with all his heart he had to make a decision to defend himself and to save his life. >> now there are other witness accounts claim to have seen something very different. >> zimmerman was standing over the body with basically straddling the body with his hands on trayvon's back, and it didn't seem to me that he was trying to help him in any way. it didn't seem to me -- i didn't hear any struggle prior to the gunshot, and i feel like it was trayvon martin that was crying out, because the minute that the gunshot went off, the whining stopped. >> there are more calls for the arrest of george zimmerman. a town hall meeting in sanford, florida, was particularly vocal. trayvon's mother admits he was suspended from school after marijuana residue was found in his school backpack but she says that is irrelevant. >> they killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation. >> there are rallies demanding justice for trayvon and they're continuing across the country. protests were held in a dozen cities yesterday stretching from atlanta to san francisco. cnn's martin savidge is live in sanford, florida, where the actual killing occurred. martin savidge, any sign that this pressure, this community pressure is going to let up at all as we move forward into this week? >> reporter: doesn't seem like it, no. there's still strong opinions both in sanford and across the country, many of them in support of trayvon martin and the belief that justice has not been served. the question mark, why has not george zimmerman been arrested, coming from the community from those who support trayvon martin. you talk about the information that came out yesterday and it was a crucial day yesterday for a number of reasons, the one-month anniversary, not quite correct but one month since the shooting and you had the vocal town meeting that took place. so on the very same day the supporters of trayvon martin say now this police report gets leaked, they find that suspicious and also find the information coming out about trayvon's suspension really they say amounts to nothing more than character assassination, the young man not able to defend himself and the family trying to speak out on his behalf. then you have those that support george zimmerman saying look he has not been able to tell his story because of the ongoing investigation. they believe strongly it was self-defense and that this investigation would seem to bear that out, his attorney said he suffered a broken nose and cuts to the back of his head. this was as a result of being attacked by trayvon and so that is the whole issue here. you have these two opposing sides, and they're both very strong in their beliefs. the controversy is going nowhere at this particular time, ashleigh. >> while you say the controversy is going nowhere, clearly we are all in the dark about a lot of the facts in this case and yet we still have other facts swirling out there. is there any thought there might be some strategic point to the leak from the police? because the police have been taking a hammering daily for how they treated this case and all of a sudden the newspaper in orlando gets some very sort of juicy material. >> reporter: right, well it's interesting. a couple of weeks ago i had a conversation with chief bill lee, he was thes police chief of sanford until he stepped down temporarily and i asked him about this particular case and at that time, he told me that the evidence that authorities had gathered, and he wouldn't go into it in great detail, the evidence they had, the 911 calls they had, the interviews with witness witness, george zimmerman's account, all tended to back up what george zimmerman had said. we get the police report that was leaked, the authorities would not comment about how it got leaked but they did say was that the report was accurate. so once again we have authorities that are sort of saying here that it was trayvon who was the aggressor, of course his family totally disagrees as do many. >> cnn's martin savidge in florida, thank you. at 8:30, soledad o'brien will talk to florida state attorney angela corey, the special prosecutor switched in to this case to investigate the details and soledad will host a town hall meeting called "beyond trayvon, race, justice in america" see it friday at 8:00 and 10:00 eastern on cnn. new information out of afghanistan, the sergeant accused of killing 17 afghan civilians was spotted by fellow troops in between the killing spreez. cou sprees. could some of the deaths be avoided? 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it's not obama care, it's actually at fordable care act. >> the argument on the other side is congress is regulating health care which you're inevitably going to do. so the question is, and what's going to be debated today in the supreme court are you engaging in commerce when you're deciding to self-insure, pay for health insurance yourself or is this as you say the creation of commerce by congress, which it can't do the plaintiffs say. >> so the knack activity thing because i get it, tom, when you say congress is allowed to regulate commerce, why are they allowed to regulate me if i don't want to engage in commerce? >> the defenders of the law say you are engaging in commerce. everyone needs health care. if you pay for it yourself you're still getting self-care and self-insuring, congress is regulating how it is you do that. it's different they say from forcing you to go out and buy a product because you're inevitably going to be in the market anyway. >> the americans polled we showed the majority of americans don't like this looking at pictures of people out on the court steps both for and against this law, but i mean to be honest there's 2,700 pages in this legislation. there are 450 provisions. i work with this stuff on a regular basis and i don't feel like i know even the tip of this iceberg. are people being sucked up into the bumper sticker arguments getting out by the politicians or do you think what's at the heart of this in. >> i don't think people understand in the most recent polling 17% of americans believe the statute's already been struck down as constitutional, we haven't even finished the arguments. >> wow. >> the administration acknowledged it didn't do the greatest job after it finally got the bill passed defending it and explaining it and most of what we hear about is in the republican presidential primary, many republicans strongly opposed to the statute even though arguably it was original republican free market idea so i think there's a lot to be learned. i'm glad cnn's spending so much time on the stachb and its constitutionality and people need to decide if the supreme court doesn't strike it down i'll vote for people who will repeal it. >> tom, my friends and i who work at cnn are proud of our dorkiness so in your least dorky language, help us, we have a few seconds left, in your least dorky language you have walked the hallowed halls and argued before the justices before. what should we be listening for today from these justices that would give us an indication of where they might be going on the mandate? >> probably two things. first, the question you were asking, do they look at the case as if it is congress trying to make someone buy something, or do they believe that people already are in this market, if they are already in the market, if they're already getting health care, already getting health insurance or self-insuring, it's much easier for them to say this is something congress can regulate. if it's about buying a product it's harder. we're looking for specific justices, four more liberal justices on the supreme court seem quite likely to uphold the statute, you need five here so justice kennedy our swing vote, maybe chief justice roberts, justice alito. are there some favorable questions regarding the law from the court's right. >> i know one thing, we are probably not going to hear any indications from clarence thomas. >> that's right, he hasn't asked a question in about six years. >> tom goldstein, thank you for getting up early with us. >> thanks for having me. >> cheers. 37 minutes past the hour, very easy to understand. >> isn't that great? 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(laugh) welcome back. 41 minutes past the hour. new questions on the shooting death of trayvon martin after details of the account that the shooter gave to police were leaked to "the orlando sentinel." according to the report zimmerman told police he was returning to the suv when the teen approached him and punched him in the nose, then he climbed on top of him and slammed his head into the sidewalk. "the sentinel" quotes authorities saying much of the account is corroborated by witnesses. we're also learning trayvon martin had been suspended from school after marijuana residue was found in his book bag. trayvon's parents confirm the suspension but say it's irrelevant to this case. they will be in washington today for a judiciary committee hearing on racial profiling and on hate crimes. yesterday they attended a town hall meeting along with an overflow crowd. more marches for justice in more than a dozen u.s. cities. >> what do we want? >> justice. >> when do we want it? >> now! >> it was attended by morehouse college senior courtney ward, joining us with albert dotson, lawyer and chair of 100 black men in america. courtney you're having discussions in your english class about this, hearing the latest details that saying that trayvon was the aggressor here. there are folks defending zimmerman's actions and supposed witnesses corroborating his story. do you think this is going to change the dialogue that you are having with fellow students? >> well i think it's important to note that the dialogue is actually happening. more than anything i think it's important for the parents and for the country to know the truth and exactly what happened to trayvon martin, and i think that supersedes any new evidence that has come out. >> but what is the dialogue that is happening right now amongst you and your fellow students? >> well it resonates on a personal level. a lot of the students that we work with, with 100 black men, are the same age as trayvon martin. i'm not that much older than him so the dialogue does consist about dealing with the images of black men and how that's portrayed in this country, the idea of being able to go down a street and being confronted by someone who has views of african-americans and the implications of that. >> albert, you have a teenaged son and you also mentor black men. how do you explain this case to them and what details about it stand out to you that you need to share with these young men? >> first of all i want to thank you for having us this morning to discuss the tragedy of trayvon martin. yes, i do have a teenaged son and i let him know first that he's blessed to be african-american, that it's important that he understand that there are people that may treat him differently because of some illness that they might have or some bigoted approach that they might take and that he needs to know how to respond when that happens. and people like courtney are members of our membering program and try to make sure all of our young people are given the skill sets and strategies to address situations like this. >> i want to talk about something specific, the hoodie that keeps on coming up. is it how the hoodie is worn, is it how it's perceived by people? how do you address that particular issue and courtney i'm going to start with you. >> you know, i think that to take the conversation and make it about the hoodie is somewhat senseless. the hoodie is obviously something worn by many athletes, college students and high school students alike and so it's really not about the hoodie. i think it speaks more to the idea of the psyche of how we view african-american men and the value that we put on african-american men's lives so that speaks louder than the hoodie itself. >> but albert, do you talk about attire, and how people perceive attire particularly in young african-american men? >> of course we do discuss attire, but courtney is absolutely right, we don't want to den gait this situation by focusing only on the hoodie. we understand that it has become the icon that represents what took place and how people might perceive you based on what you're wearing. we discussed attire. whether you're wearing a hoodie or a shirt and tie, you need to be aware of your surroundings, make sure that you understand that people may perceive you differently than you perceive yourself and you want to dress aappropriately for the situation. >> when you say appropriately what does that mean? >> let's understand, you and i when we were growing up dressed in probably a faddish way at the time, and we have to understand that fads might be okay, but we have to also be aware as we move through the streets and through the halls of our schools and through our workplaces that there is a uniform sometimes that we need to wear and as an appropriate attire for the moment, but most importantly, we have to understand that people will perceive us differently based on what we're wearing, but let's not again focus on the victim and what the victim was wearing, and how the victim was perceived by someone who was watching him walk through a neighborhood. >> gentlemen, one last question. we've been down this road where we are outraged by something we perceive is a senseless crime. how do you think this dialogue perhaps can continue or actually affect change? i don't have a lot of time but courtney if you could tell me and then i'll move on to you, albert. >> certainly. here in georgia we also have the stab your ground law. i think people need to be more educated about the law and take steps to become aware about how they can actually have a voice in the conversation. >> albert? >> i concur with that. obviously we have it here in florida and also need to make sure young people understand the strategies remain alive as they walked the halls of their schools and the streets of their neighborhoods. >> albert dotson, courtney ward thank you for joining us this morning, gentlemen. >> our pleasure. >> strategies to remain alive, that's hard to hear, it's hard to hear. it's 47 minutes now past 6:00, soledad o'brien joining us now live with a look at what's coming up on "starting point." >> good morning to you both. president obama's health care overhaul law has its second day in court day in the supreme court. the court will take up the biggest issue in the legal dispute, the individual mandate provision. i'll speak with bill mccallum, he filed a lawsuit against the act and tell us why he thinks it is unconstitutional this morning. also we'll continue to talk about the trayvon martin case. new details have been leaked to the press. george zimmerman is now claiming the teenager punched him in the face and slammed his head on the ground. we'll speak to angela corey, lead prosecutor in the case and investigating the we'll talk about the national outrage and leaks as well. donald sutherland plays president snow in "the hunger games" and tells us why he thinks this movie is resonating so well not only with young people but adults as well. those stories and much more ahead as "starting point" gets under way, right at the top of the hour. more than 150 million professionals are connecting here. linkedin connects with the big board. 8% every 10 years.age 40, we can start losing muscle -- wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? 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"the news from a to z." i'm ashleigh banfield. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. "starting point" with soledad o'brien starts this morning. our starting point is the health care law and it is on trial today. the main event of course the individual mandate, it's the centerpiece of president obama's plan for reform. also new, details emerging in the shooting death of 17-year-old trayvon martin according to a leaked police report, a violent fight led george zimmerman to pull his gun and pull the trigger. we'll speak to the shooter's friend who insists that george zimmerman is not a racist. and is this thing on? yeah. >> this is my last election. after my election i have more flexibility. >> what does that mean, more flexibility? hmm. well what do

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