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examination. it's what we do every night. as always, we are not taking sides, but trying to figure out what is true and what is not. we begin with the romney ad. >> in 1996, president clinton and a bipartisan congress helped end welfare for requiring work for welfare. president obama quietly announced a plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements. under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your chak. welfare to work goes back to being welfare. >> you will hear from newt gingrich who defends that ad and makes a stunning admission of whether it's true to the facts. i want to show you how mitt romney is campaigning on the claims made in that ad. >> with a very careful executive action, he removed the requirement of work from welfare. it is wrong to make any change that would make america more of a nation of government dependency. we must restore and will restore work into welfare. >> listening to that, the white house managed to undo all your elected representatives accomplished in the late 90s. you get the impression that the obama administration wants an america where some pay taxes and lazy americans collect welfare. romney turned to newt gingrich and he spelled it out. >> i think on the hard left there is an unending desire to create a dependent america. it's not just the obamas, but the people he appoints are more radical. >> the campaign disagrees. they are not alone. the pants on fire rating weighed in with four pinnocchios when the white house and department of health and human services said there was no flexibility to tailor the program. these are changes requested by the republican governors in utah and nevada. what about this chaim? >> if president obama didn't want people to think he was going to save the central work requirement and welfare reform, his administration shouldn't have written a memo saying they were going to waive the welfare reform. >> here's the relevant memo. i quote. hhs will only consider approving waivers relating to the work participation requirements that make changes intended to lead to more effective means of meeting the work goals. the administration is not trying to waive the work requirement. they are trying to make it less bureaucratic and more effective. what the republican state governors have asked for. they defended the ad, but later on in this interview, speaker gingrich also makes a surprising admission. i spoke with the former candidate a short time ago. >> mr. speaker, this ad said and i quote, under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. according to every nonpartisan fact checking organization, that is not clue. president clinton signed a law that you worked on said it's not true. ron haskins served as george w. bush's welfare adviser said there is no plausible scenario in which it constitutes a serious attack on welfare reform. are they all wrong? >> the original developer of welfare reform worked with governor and president reagan. he was the first person to come out and say look, this will end welfare reform. his reasoning is straight forward. once you start allowing states -- this is why the law itself does not permit waivers. the president actually could not waive section 407 which said there can't be waivers to the work requirement. he fudge and found a way to get around it which i suspect will turn out to be illegal. the governor from virginia said this is clear gutting welfare reform. the two governor that is the obama administration is hiding behind from utah and nevada have come out and said that's not accurate. this is not what they want and not the flexibility they asked for. >> under obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. there is no evidence of that at all. >> given that this is an administration that maximized the increase in dependencey and maximized the number of people on food stamps and the effort to get people to rely on the government, there is no evidence that once the waiver system is in place, you could rely on this administration to defend work. >> it would be up to governors as you said and according to the governors themselves, that is not their intention. you talked about utah governor gary herbert's office. they said utah's request for a waiver is from increased customization to maximize employment among the welfary e recipients. hhs, acting assistant secretary of hhs said this is all about trying to create innovative strategies and flexibilities and policies and procedures designed to improve outcomes. they are saying the same thing. >> sure. and the question you have to ask is given the track record of this particular secretary of health and human services, given the general between liberalism and radicalism of appointees and part of what led to this strong reaction on the part of a lot of conservatives and republicans, this came out in the same fread hour period as the president's famous speech that you didn't build. you were not responsible as a small business owner for what you achieved. it's almost as though he was psychologically attacking work and achievement at the same time he was shifting the regulations and candidly this is not an administration that you will find any conservative give the benefit of the doubt to. >> i have to come back to the wording of this ad. again, it's you should obama's plan. you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. that's not saying you assume this or we worry about this, but saying as a fact this will happen. that's not supported by evidence. >> if the ad makers asked me, i would say this makes it possible would be a good way. >> you think the wording is not accurate and it is too straight forward? >> i think the ad -- this is a political ad. in 30 seconds you tend not to get all the various amend ams and things. i'm here tonight to support the idea and i believe absolutely that this obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement. as you pointed out, even when bill clinton signed the bill, 100 voters voted no. barack obama was opposed to it. it was a huge defense of dependency without work. you say to me, do i think all those people who opposed the bill would try to gut it if they get a chance, of course i do. >> if you were running this ad, you would at least say i would worry about this or based on what i believe about the president and he will do this. >> if i were running the ad, it would be a tougher ad. i start by saying as the leading food stamp president in american history and the person who increased dependency more than anyone else and failed with child poverty. with the clinton and gingrich welfare plan, child poverty went down by 25%. the largest decline in child poverty is we had a work requirement and people went to work and school and their lives got better. my ad would have been tougher in seth up the conditions you are looking for, but it would have been a 60-second ad and i don't know who could afford that. >> i have to comprehend back to this. it sounded like you were saying earlier and want to clarify this. you do think that the actual wording under obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you the welfare check. that is not factually correct. >> no proof today, but under obama's ideasology it is true he would be comfortable sending people checks for doing nothing. >> i appreciate you being on. thank you. . >> on facebook and twitter or instagram. we are not taking sides, but a pro obama line that draws a line between mitt romney and a woman's death from cancer. keeping them on the special continues. uches your lips. the delightful discovery, the mid-sweetening realization that you have the house all to yourself. well, almost. the sweet reward, making a delicious choice that's also a smart choice. splenda no-calorie sweetener. with the original sugar-like taste you love and trust. splenda makes the moment yours. who dreamed she could fly. like others who braved the sky before her, it took a mighty machine, and plain old ingenuity to go where no fifth grader had gone before. ♪ and she flew and she flew, into the sky and beyond. my name is annie and i'm the girl who dreamed she could fly. powered by intel core processors. ♪ powered by intel core processors. fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses anywhere. save time and get back to what you love. the latest innovation. only for ink customers. learn more at chase.com/ink they claim to be complete. only centrum goes beyond. providing more than just the essential nutrients, so i'm at my best. centrum. always your most complete. ♪ this is the sound... you feel that? 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[ male announcer ] the all-new, 37 mpg chevy malibu eco. from new technology to old friends. chevy runs deep. . >> we are focusing on claims in the truth. not as one side or another side sees the truth, but a plain old fashioned truth. we gone with a factually bogus romney ad created by the leading pro obama super pac. it features a laid off steelworker named joe soptic. >> i lost my health care and my family lost their health care. a short time after that, my wife became ill. yon how long she was sick. i think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew we couldn't afford the insurance. one day she became ill and i took her up to the jackson county hospital. they admitted her for pneumonia and found the cancer and it was stage four. there was nothing they can could do for her. she passed away in 22 days. >> it's a sad story and heart wrenching is the loss much a job and a spouse, virtually nothing else about the story fits into the timeline and the facts. romney was ceo when the steel mill shut down and he left two years before to run the olympics. he was still listed as ceo and had a hand in how the company was responsibled. he said his wife was ill a short time. turns out it was years in 2006 when he wife unfortunately died. in addition, we spoke t mr. soptic and he said his wife had primary insurance from her own job and she still had that when he lost his insurance. with the romney ad, the fact checkers are not smiling on this either. "the washington post" gives the same as romney's four pinnocchio: on every level this stretches the desenses. they are trying to distance themselves. saying i haven't seen the ad. i read about it and don't speak for the third party group. i speak for the president and the administration and i defend his policies. they went further than the white house spokesman and no ads done by priorities usa. we don't have knowledge of the story and the family. keeping them honest, they ought to have at least some knowledge for joe soptic and his family. they used him in one of their own campaign ads. >> we're a reputation for quamity products. something american made. we were not rich, but i was able to put my daughter through college. >> that was joe soptic in an earlier ad for the obama 2012 campaign. we have bill from priority actions. "the washington post" said about your ad on just every levelhis stretches the bounds of common sense and decency and independent fact checkers say it's inaccurate. how can you imply that mitt romney and bain are to blame for that poor woman dying of cancer. >> my goodness, we don't an we would not. the fact checks are saying that's what we are trying to do. the point of the ad is to tell the story of the impact that mitt romney had on the lives of thousands of people. they lost their jobs and health care and pension benefits. that impact is felt still today in those communities. >> you spent and you are a smart guy and had a lot of smart ad people in the group you are working with. half the ad is him talking about his wife's demise and ends with him saying i don't think mitt romney realizes what he has done to anyone. the implication is that he is responsible or the action he's took led to his wife's death. >> the story is a very sad one and the truth is that there thousands of stories that happened as a result of mitt romney in his time. just because they are sad or tragic doesn't mean we should be off limits. it's important to tell the stories of the folks and how they were impacted. >> a woman dying, she had health insurance from her job after this man lost his job and she got an injury years later and lost her insurance. >> to say that, who supposes that we are trying to link mitt romney with her tragedy? >> you claim and want people to believe you are not trying to link in any way even just subtly or not that there is a linkage between mitt romney and bain capital and business decisions he made and this woman's death? >> it would defy logic to do so. even to today, that community is completely worn down. the whole area and the fact that they are abandoned. people don't have jobs and many folks still don't have health insurance. people who have jobs are getting paid much less. mitt romney's business experience had a profound effect on the lives of thousands of people. >> that effect is still being felt. that's what this ad told a story about. >> okay. i don't want to go back and forth, but this ad told us a specific story, more than half of the ad is him talking detailed about his wife in a way that -- it's a sad story, but it jumps over and trunkates time in a way that makes it seem like he got fired and she didn't have insurance which she did from her primary insurance. >> not at the time when she died. she had health insurance for a short time. >> because she lost her other job. >> ultimately when joe sopty ic needed health insurance for his family that was promised to him by a contract that mitt romney helped him negotiate, he didn't have insurance. >> under bankruptcy protection they were able to do away it. >> they voided a contract. they made plenty of money and all those workers got screwed. >> you can make an ad about that, but you are implying and i think any rational or nonpartisan observers look at this and say you are leaking this. or you would not put this in an ad. >> the rational thing to take away is how on earth you can possibly imply it? >> when you say how can you imply that, it's totally disingenuous. >> i don't think that's true. >> appreciate you coming on to talk about the ad. >> thanks, anderson. >> donald trump's birther campaigns. do surrogates help candidates have it both ways? ♪ ( whirring and crackling sounds ) man: assembly lines that fix themselves. the most innovative companies are doing things they never could before, by building on the cisco intelligent network. would you mind ifo be i go ahead of you?omer. instead we had someone go ahead of him and win fifty thousand dollars. congratulations you are our one millionth customer. people don't like to miss out on money that should have been theirs. that's why at ally we have the raise your rate 2-year cd. you can get a one-time rate increase if our two-year rate goes up. if your bank makes you miss out, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. mid grade dark roast forest fresh full tank brain freeze cake donettes rolling hot dogs g of ice anti-freeze wash and dry diesel self-serve fix a flat jumper cables 5% cashback signup for 5% cashback at gas stations through september. it pays to discover. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ transforming sounds ] [ male announcer ] transformers. the ride. ride it at universal studios hollywood. no hour with bogus campaign claims wouldn't be complete without a birther claim. mitt romney said he doesn't doubt obama was born in hawaii. investigation after investigation showing there is nothing to the birther story, mr. trump is not backing down. maybe he is just looking for attention. either way, the romney campaign has not backed away from mr. trump since this controvercy erupted several months ago. >> nothing's changed my mind. by the way you have a huge group of people down the street who are screaming don't give that up. a publisher came out last week and had a statement about obama given to them by obama when he was doing a book as a young man in the 90s, born in kenya and raised in indonesia. i mean this was a statement from obama. >> that's not true. the publisher said it was a typo and for the record, president obama produced both a short and long form birth certificate showing he was born in hawaii. he madehe long form available to quiet mr. trump who claimed to investigators on the case. when we sent gary tuckman to hawaii, he found plenty of evidence he was born there and no sign of mr. trump's investigators. i asked him about it months ago. >> we had a team in hawaii talking to everyone from the state health department to the school where obama's mother went to families in the hospital at the same time. none of them said they have been contacted by anyone working for you. >> maybe they are not saying it and maybe they haven't contacted the same people. >> we interviewed the former department of health with two state official who is have seen the original birth certificate you are talking about. she said she hasn't been contacted by your people. isn't that someone they should talk to? >> i have been told that the birth certificate is missing. i have been told it's not there and doesn't exist. >> who told you there? >> i heard that two days ago from somebody. >> can you name one person who you have talked to? are. >> i don't want to do that. it's not appropriate. >> you can't say anybody? >> it's not appropriate. >> he never named names. as for the missing birth certificate, it was released there after. mitt romney said i don't agree with the people who support me and everything i believe in. donald trump is not just a romney supporter, but aiming to raise $2 million and hinted to wolf blitzer that he might personally donate millions more. up on the romney website, this picture with uncle sam on one of the old fashioned recruiting posters. the winner gets flown to new york for dinner with mitt romney. he is clearly more than a run-of-the-mill supporter. could his support cause the romney campaign votes? polling shows what a trump endorsement would make in four voters less likely to vote for romney. the governor said he needs 50.1% support to win and happy to have the support of a lot of good people. back to the remarks. he was talking about president obama's lack of business experience. listen. >> sometimes i just don't think he understands what it takes to help people. i know he wants to help, but he doesn't know ma what to do. i was speaking with a business owner who own a couple of restaurants and he said you know, i would like to change the constitution and i'm not sure i can do it, but i would like a provision in the coninstitution in addition to the age of the president and the citizenship of the president and the birth place of the president being set by the constitution, i would like it also to say that the president has to spend at least three years working in business before he can be president of the united states. >> joining me now is republican strategist and romney adviser. kevin, some people are looking at the comments that the candidate made tonight and saying that it was a dog whistle and the fact that he would bring up the birth requirements in the constitution on a day where donald trump talked about birtherism with a dog whistle on the issue. fair? >> i don't agree with that. i think the governor was relaying a conversation that he had with the voter. the emphasis was on the business experience. that's what governor romney is finding as he engages voters across the country. they are focused on the economy. quite frankly that is the entire focus of the message today when he was out there in colorado. he was talking about the interview and how important energy is to helping sustain the economy and that region of the country and how important the economy is and turning the economy around. >> he is holding this big event with donald trump and he is up on the website and out there talking about birther stuff. a supporter said something crowd about then candidate obama to john mccain, he set the supporter straight. democrats are saying that the fact that mitt romney had not said he is wrong and asked him to stop promoting something proven false shows romney doesn't have a backbone. that's what democrats are saying. does he have an opigation to set his surrogate straight? >> he has. >> you think he spoke to donald trump? >> governor romney made it clear that he disagrees with the emphasis on the issue. he believes that the reason that we need to beat president obama in november is because he hasn't done enough to fix the american economy. every time they had an event he talked about what it is that he would do to fix it. >> does he have an obligation to say something to donald trump? >> he sent a message time and time again that the focus of this campaign has to be the economy. >> you were saying it doesn't matter what they said. when hillary rosen, a supporter of president obama who visited the white house said something about ann romney. they were quick to distance themselves from her and a lot of conservatives jumped on her as speaking for the candidate. isn't it fair then for democrats to do the same as what donald trump is saying? >> i think all the scrutiny is fair. the difference is that crystallized the debate about the economy and women's role in the workplace. the different visions that each party has for the economy. that was what really cryst crystallized the debate. i don't think there a lot of people sitting at home with the unemployment and consumer confidence going down, not a lot of people are talking about the issue that the media is talking about and donald trump keeps bringing up. >> but it's not just the media talking about the birther stuff. in arizona they were demanding birth certificate from president obama to prove his citizenship to have him on the ballot there. there initiatives across the country since he has been in office. >> do you think right now that voters and that will drive what the main decision is on the campaign? i don't think so. over kitchen tables across the country, there is so much economic anxiety about the state of employment and the lack of jobs and people that have one are worried about losing it and people who don't can't find them. that's what the american people want to see debated. that's the focus that they want to see in the campaign. a lot of this is a distraction. >> i appreciate you being on. >> always great to be with you. >> when we come back, a trip across the aisle to the top democratic lawmaker. a man made big claims without showing the slightest evidence. . because the network finds it and tailors it across all the right points, automating all the right actions, to bring all the right results. 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he is standing by unproven allegations in taxes that claim that romney didn't pay any taxes for a decade and without the facts to back it up. governor romney reacted sharply. >> it's time for har to put up or shut up. harry will have to describe who it is he spoke with. of course that's totally and completely wrong. it's untrue, dishonest and inaccurate. it's wrong. i am looking forward to have harry reveal his sources and we will probably find at the white house. >> he is offering no fax or evidence, just allegations and insinuations. before we go further, you should know we are not being partisan. for weeks we reported on michele bachmann and her house colleagues making unfun toed allegations about islamic radicals infiltrating the government making claims about the top secretary of state clinton. the standard should be no different than democrats and libertarians or anyone. allegations require extraordinary proof or any kind of proof. michele bachmann and company don't have ordinary proof to center on harry reid. this began when mr. reid said a bain capital investor said harry said he didn't pay taxes for ten years. do i know that's true? well, i'm not certain. that was harry reid saying i'm not certain. not being certain about the truth of an explosive allegation, you would keep it to yourself, right? senator reid, the highest ranking democrat in congress went further saying hoe had a number of people tell me that. it went from one person to now a number of people and today he went further. >> so the word is out he hasn't paid any taxes for ten years. let him prove he has paid taxes because he hasn't. >> now this is on the floor of the senate. he is now saying the word is out. the word is out because harry reid put it out. when what he hasn't put out is anything that anyone can check. not the name of his source or anyone. here's what john mccain said earlier. >> harry reid on the floor of the senate reiterated this idea that mitt romney has not paid taxes for ten years. he said and i quote on the floor of the senate so the word is out he hasn't paid taxes for ten years. let him prove he has because he hasn't. he offered no proof at all about this. what do you make of this? is this politics and is it acceptable? >> first of all, i have known senator reid for many, many years and occasionally he displays radical behavior and to accuse somebody of doing something without a shred of proof that the allegation has any substance is really something i frankly don't understand. i think politics are tough and enjoy the give-and-take, but i think harry might have gone over the line here. >> let's bring in our panel. the top pro-obama super pac and mary madeline. you cannot defend harry reid on this, you can? >> you watch me. >> harry reid doubled down on this. he went on the floor of the senate and said well, it's out there that he hasn't paid for ten years. it's only out there because he tuesday two days ago without the evidence. >> there is ton tons of evidence. the one release that he prettied up. >> evidence he has not paid taxes? >> evidence of tax avoidance. >> that's not what harry reid said. >> they are pointing out this guy has an incredible history of tax avoidance. the shell corporation in bermuda, cayman island and switzerland bank accounts and in bermuda. whatever that is. freshman philosophy. when you are confronted with something, you have good information and you choose the simplest most obvious choice. what do you think it is? is he secretly owning the bunny ranch brothel? i don't. he is a man of extraordinary morale. he has impeccable moral character. i don't think he is like secretly owning liquor stores that sell to children or anything, but i think he is a billionaire who doesn't pay taxes. i am trying to show it's the most logical explanation. people should like on the twitter machine. what other reason is he hiding his taxes? >> anderson, i will tell you -- >> we have lots of evidence. >> go ahead, mary. >> really? to answer paul's question, this is a falisy logic. this is how they argue. they make the accused put the purpose on the accused. do you really think and does this pass the smell test that this man would have been governor and running for president for years that he has all of his money? yes, he has a lot of money and he is an american opportunity inspiration. he would be doing something illegal? they called him a felon. the sad thing is harry reid is not some goofball pincher. he is the democratic senate majority leader. doesn't that give -- if i were a democrat, that would give me great cause that majority lear in the senate is behaving like eugene carthy. >> it just seems hypocritical to me. when louis gomer went on the floor and said that some unnamed former fbi agent told him that middle eastern women were coming to the united states pregnant to have babies and taking them back to the middle east to raise them for 20 years as terrorists so they could then come back as american citizens and attack us 20 years from now and he sources on on this and we didn't call the fbi, they said we never heard of this. we asked for evidence, he wouldn't give us any. what is the difference between that and what harry reid is saying? >> what gomer positive is ipsio facto crazy. reid is the most logical simplest explanation for why this man who is obviously burning with desire to be president is hiding his tax returns. he knew or should have known getting into this it's not pleasant perhaps, but the guys and women at the presidential level, they all have to relax tax returns. >> i tell you we know he paid $6 million and $7 million in contributions. may i? quit imitating james. it's this. the obama imperative is to district. he can't run on his record. they announced they will desty romney. this is a distraction. he put out two. if he put out four, he would ask for six. if they put out six, they would ask for ten. jon stewart said he played the dead card. his father would be embarrassed? what happened to your party, paul? >> romney has the evidence and we can't see it. he is choosing the most sensible explanation for a puzzling political thing? why is romney feeding this distraction? there is something he doesn't want us to see. i have been in this for 28 years. when politicians don't disclose their taxes, it's because they can't. >> before people say i'm supporting romney on this. my point is simply for any sitting member of congress or the senate, republican or democrat or whatever party to be making allegations about somebody without offering any evidence whatsoever, i think seems a troubling precedent and it surprises me that more people are not upset about it whether it's this or bachman making allegations against the infiltration of the muslim brotherhood. we have to leave it there. thank you. >> what's the strategy behind these lies by the obama and romney camps? 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does it help or hurt the campaigns. john king, political correspondent who is anchor of the state of the union and "the washington post." mitt romney had an interesting observation yesterday. i want to play it for our viewers. >> you know it's interesting too when the various fact checkers look at some of the changes in the obama ads and say they are wrong and inaccurate and yet it keeps on running them. you know in the past when people pointed out that something was inaccurate they pulled the ads and they were embarrassed. today they just blast ahead. >> the interesting thing is they were just as much if not more guilty the obama reference is they were focusing on the super pac by the romney campaign. is this short of argument par for the course or worse than usual this year? >> first of all, i think it's amazing that he can remember a time when campaigns pulled ads. i can't remember one of those times. first of all, i think there a lot moreatch dogs out there. in this campaign. >> we're been it more. >> we're do know about it more and pay more attention to it. the rise and the television advertising has been out there for a while, but now it's almost a campaign unto itself. we talk about the money and certainly we talk about the content. there so many people watching these ads now, eye i am not sure there more. there more, ads. they went negative earlier and not just stretching the truth, but lie being stuff. that happened so much earlier than i have seen. >> because of the power of the super pacs and the money involved, they took it to a new level. >> more advertising in many key markets. last july there wasn't the final month of the campaign in 2008. when it's at a new level, the super pacs say hey, that's proven to be wrong. they shrug and say the other guys are doing it too. the other goy is robbing a bank so you can. the other gay guy is cheating on a test so you can. it numbs you a bit. the obama side needs to disqualify romney. they are running these things and this ad thaw are talking about. i asked will you talk it off the web? it never has been on pay tv and he said no. >> romney's favorability numbers have taken a tumble. the false attacks. is it possible they do more damage to him because he is more unknown? >> that's what the obama campaign and his supporters are bidding. they are looking at 2004. bush really moved to define john kerry very early and he ran ads in march. they started in may and a lot of what we have seen has been negative. the thing about negative ads does is they have been around and often work. what you are seeing particularly now in august is that each of these campaigns is trying to generate some feeling among their base. among those voters because if you generate a feeling or moral outrage and anger, those are the feelings that prompt people to act and actually donate and start knocking on doors and mobilizing behind the candidates. they are trying to grab people by will the colaar and get them to feel and act. >> that's behind the expenditure by the obama campaign early on. to find the opponent early on. >> yes. president obama and people have gotten used to him. he has been on tv every day. he has a record now and the white house is much more difficult to redefine president obama. i think what's interesting to me, the obama or the romney campaign knew this early on. they admitted that the idea of making people dislike president obama was not going to happen. what they wanted it do was make people like mitt romney in the negative ads, i agree they were aimed much more at mitt romney getting his base activated than trying to drive down president obama's favorability. the really key question now though is whether mitt romney at this point can come back and use the big opportunities she about to get to define himself a positive way and bring up the likability. >> let's ask you how to work it. >> there is no question the obama allies have done the most damage. they hurt mitt romney and they are most effective and there more of them in many of the key markets around the country. they are winning, if you will, in terms of moving the numbers with negative ads. some happen to be reprehensible. we have a time left in politics. the vice presidential role will be a part of it. he has to work on the economic plan and convince people he will fight for the middle class. the damage that has been done in the spring and the summer said he is say rich guy and he doesn't care about you and the community. it's a steep hill. that's a scar the obamas have put on him. he will own the second half of august. he has a big opportunity to do that. the question is, can he? 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