ever perceive that desantis is fading in ramaswamy say is in the early second place. trump will come for him next and it will be like. >> i don't think donald trump sees vivek romo me as a threat. i think that he realizes that river ramaswamy will have a ceiling in some place in the 15 to 20% and it's going to just cripple the rest of the field and he's happy to see that happen and happy to help from swimming achieve that. and record revamping to be a surrogate. that's absolutely >> if you see consolidation. what if you saw consolidation in the field around ramaswamy anybody else? >> i don't think. >> nobody is going to vote for vivek ramos moment for president over donald trump. i don't see it happen. they're pulling in the same. place i think if anything, the trump team are going to try to bring into the fold some kind of a surrogate. one thing that kind of a generational discussion an