you. anderson, ramaswamy the winner among this group. okay thanks so much. back now with our panel here in new york. it s always interesting here perception. ? i expect as you also make it up in the polls. i think he s got a ceiling. it was interesting to talk to people on this panel. seemed to resonate with men and women. universally off putting to women. non-scientific analysis i m giving. all the momentum you saw between nikki haley. this is a true policy division. these are two different candidates, different experiences and running on different things. they are in last break within the party. here s the thing, vivek has not articulated why him over trump. if anything, he is positioning for something i would argue maybe a fox news gig or something. but he does not make that case. nikki haley laid out why her other than trump. still down 40. points but at least made that distinction. the last question was the right.
ever perceive that desantis is fading in ramaswamy say is in the early second place. trump will come for him next and it will be like. i don t think donald trump sees vivek romo me as a threat. i think that he realizes that river ramaswamy will have a ceiling in some place in the 15 to 20% and it s going to just cripple the rest of the field and he s happy to see that happen and happy to help from swimming achieve that. and record revamping to be a surrogate. that s absolutely if you see consolidation. what if you saw consolidation in the field around ramaswamy anybody else? i don t think. nobody is going to vote for vivek ramos moment for president over donald trump. i don t see it happen. they re pulling in the same. place i think if anything, the trump team are going to try to bring into the fold some kind of a surrogate. one thing that kind of a generational discussion an