sondland what president trump thought about ukraine. ambassador sondland responded that president trump cares more about the investigations of biden which giuliani was pressing for. >> and i think you said that after the call when your staff asked ambassador sondland what president trump thought of ukraine, his response was that president trump cares more about the investigations of biden? is that right? >> and burisma, yes, sir. >> and i take it the import of that is he cares more about that than he does about ukraine? >> yes, sir. >> that's right, ukraine, at war with russia. taylor says that he reported this information through the proper channels both at the state department and the house intelligence committee. that aide who overheard the phone call, david holmes, he's going to provide his own closed-door testimony on friday. joining our conversation now with their insight, samantha vinograd, a former senior adviser during president obama's administration.