voluntary, not mandatory. how can that be in the midst of a surge like we're seeing now? >> yeah. i think the reality is in the 2022 playbook we have the tools to keep us safe. people have had access to these haves, evens. all kids should be vaccinated and kids have access to the vaccine and anyone who doesn't feel protected enough should and can continue to wear a high efficiency mask. if you're vaccinated and wearing an n-95 mask, one of the high grade masks, that's about as low risk as anything can you do in your life. we have the tools to meet everyone's quote, unquote acceptable level of risk. i think it should be mandatory at this point. i think we've ignored the harms of doing this, and we think kids are endlessly resilient but you're coming up on two years, two years of school totally disrupted. the earliest learners second graders have never been in class, learning to read never in class without income a mask and without their toettcher in a mask. we're underestimating the cost of the long-term closures and as schools start to close, they think they are going to close