criminal records of potential hires, some of them who end up on his payroll. he joins me now jason murphy along with craig smoot, a delivery drier for amazon owes delivery franchise. jason, craig is the star other that i actually want to talk to you about but i ll start with you. you know, a lot this is a policy conversation in washington that s constantly percolating. very few times does it end up in an outcome. you went and did something here. what motivated you to pursue this? i just think that everyone deserves a second chance. i remember times when i was in high school and maybe a toettcher would allow me to retake a test or allow me to get a better grade on a particular test or paper, and those opportunities like that remind me to always to pay things forward and i think that s what i m doing in this situation and i think it s the best thing that everybody should be trying to figure out a way to pay things like this forward. yeah. at a minimum. craig, just to get some conte
voluntary, not mandatory. how can that be in the midst of a surge like we re seeing now? yeah. i think the reality is in the 2022 playbook we have the tools to keep us safe. people have had access to these haves, evens. all kids should be vaccinated and kids have access to the vaccine and anyone who doesn t feel protected enough should and can continue to wear a high efficiency mask. if you re vaccinated and wearing an n-95 mask, one of the high grade masks, that s about as low risk as anything can you do in your life. we have the tools to meet everyone s quote, unquote acceptable level of risk. i think it should be mandatory at this point. i think we ve ignored the harms of doing this, and we think kids are endlessly resilient but you re coming up on two years, two years of school totally disrupted. the earliest learners second graders have never been in class, learning to read never in class without income a mask and without their toettcher in a mask. we re underestimating the cost