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the remarkable victory he got when he called that general election having ousted theresa may... i gather she voted in a ball gown this evening, i think the irony won't be lost on her. i think since we thought we'd be marched up the hill, and borisjohnson seems to be accusing the media, he says it's media—lead, my feeling across the country speaking to everyday people, and i had one woman approached me next to the thames and say to me she doesn't like liars. i'm reporting right next to that covid wall where you see all kinds of hearts and names and people who died who had respected lockdown. i think it's a countrywide thing. also worth saying, borisjohnson denies lying about the parties in downing street. he said some things that were wrong, but he thought they were true at the time. you must have had a few days this week talking to france about the uk, with this happening now and thejubilee before it. it is quite remarkable going from covering the head of state, which is the 96—year—old monarch queen elizabeth ii, who whether people were ardent royalists or not, all four days of the festivities to see people and the respect they have for the individual, it seems that boris johnson is damaged goods. i think that was an expression used by keir starmer. but he thinks he can win another election. the question is what does it take to resign nowadays? that is the big question. when you see that the anti—corruption tsar, john penrose, has resigned today, i think a lot of other eu leaders have been wondering for a long time, the mother of all parliaments or the mother of all democracies, what is the image of downing street and future prime ministers? that is interesting. because every country has its own political culture and has expectations of what is and isn't a resigning matter. i can think of french politics 25 years ago where affairs were very common. if an equivalent affair was found out about the uk, it would be a much more serious thing. how do you think french people are seeing borisjohnson? do they see him as mr brexit, the man who delivered that, or as a politician with greater breadth? they see his... often what is trotted out in the french press, and we're global so i report round the world in french and english is a man on a zip wire, so that comedic buffoon side is often referred to. i think it's in a sense a lack of seriousness and a lack of gravitas, so it'll be interesting. i was in downing street for the... when tony blair was succeeded by gordon brown. we went from mr charisma, and of course tony blair had taken this country into the iraq war and where there was a real mood for different type of a prime minister. if there is a vacancy after tonight or whether it comes in a few weeks or a few months, it'll be interesting to see who the conservative party choose. is it somebody... is it choosing somebody who's a brexiteer? or do they cast their mind a bit further afield knowing that they do need to be ready for a general election? and they think of the wider population because the brand ofjohnson was always factored in with the conservative mps, and many people across the country. but clearly, it's not doing it right now. so, we will see. it'll be fascinating to see when there is leadership contest — it's not a question of if but when — who gets the plum job. saying a question of not if but when amber that very much would be refuted by borisjohnson and his supporters and they say the result can be a chance for him to draw a line under his troubles in the recent months and move on with his premiership. now we have tweets sources close to the confident up —— premised her confident he has won the vote. we'll find out for sure one way or another at nine p:m.. stuart anderson says he is supporting more sharks and say i don't believe it is for us to change a prime minister and don't believe it is for us to change a prime ministerand it don't believe it is for us to change a prime minister and it is for those who wanted him and i stand by him and support him. but we should redirect who votes for a local mp and then they go to parliament and if they had been elected and the mp5 cluster together to form a majority. often that comes from one party as it does at the moment from the conservative party. people are voting for a candidate to represent the party, they are not voting directly for a prime minister, though of course who the candidates offer prime minister, who the leaders are definitely does influence how some people vote. couple of other updates i will bring in a moment before i do, boris johnson... borisjohnson has built his career on being a more colourful character than most politicians. not something he would deny. there have been plenty up and downs. he became prime minister in 2019 after theresa may's downfall and went into a general election five months later with the slogan "get brexit done". it proved politically potent. he used a digger to spread the message, with success. borisjohnson was returned to power with the biggest conservative majority since 1987. some historic labour seats even turned blue. and this was election night. well, we did it! we pulled it off, didn't we? we pulled it off. we broke the deadlock. borisjohnson has now been prime minister for 2.5 years. things have gotten more complicated. his first hurdle was a brexit deal with the eu. after the terms of departure, there then had to be a further trade deal between the european union and the uk. both of those things got done also both passed through parliament. mrjohnson had a very large majority to help them do that. on the deal, this is what he said. what this deal does is it satisfies the request of the british people to take back control. and what that meant was we now have the freedom to do things differently and do things better if we choose. he also moved quicker than other european nations to secure, approve and roll out covid—i9 vaccines. here are the figures. the uk approved its first vaccine in december 2020. by march 2021, 20 million people had received their firstjab, the fastest in europe. in italy and france, jabs had been delivered to 1.5 million people and in germany, 1.9 million. so, that was the covid—19 rollout. he has reference that today. this year, borisjohnson was one of the first world leaders to send lethal aid to ukraine. then in april, two months into russia's invasion, he made this surprise visit to kyiv. and a month later, he became the first western european leader to address ukraine's parliament. ukraine will win. the truth is that we were too slow to grasp what was really happening. and we collectively failed to impose the sanctions than that we should have put on vladimir putin. and we cannot make the same mistake again. that relationship again in the spotlight today. president zelensky tweeted. .. so, those were the highlights. moments he would want to highlight and has been highlighted. but moments of pressure as well. there was the owen paterson lobbying row. mr paterson was the tory mp who resigned in november. he broke lobbying rules and was facing suspension until the conservatives blocked it. the government initially tried to change the rules to save mr patterson, but reversed that decision after a furious backlash. the tories then lost a by—election in mr paterson's seat north shropshire a month later to the liberal democrats. this was borisjohnson on that defeat. i'm responsible for everything that the government does, and of course i take a personal responsibility. what people have been hearing is just a constant litany of stuff about politics and politicians and stuff that isn't about them. we can't forget the catalyst for tonight's vote, the parties at number 10 during lockdown. the vote having been completed and we will soon find out the result. there were two damning investigations. a met police inquiry fined borisjohnson, his wife carrie and the chancellor rishi sunak for breaking lockdown rules. in total, 126 fixed penalty notices were issued. last month, sue gray's long—awaited report was released. she is a senior civil servant. she looked at 16 events and detailed excessive drinking, an altercation at one party, one person was sick. she published several photos of the prime minister. this was at one event in downing street in november in 2020. in summary, sue gray blamed... and borisjohnson said this in parliament afterwards. i take full responsibility for everything that took place on my watch. sue gray's report has emphasised that it is up to the political leadership in number 10 to take ultimate responsibility, and of course i do. last month, the tories suffered significant losses at local elections, losing almost 500 seats and control of 11 councils. and tories face another test onjune the 23rd with two by—elections in tiverton and honiton and wakefield. rob watson is with me. why are they looming so large? they are looming — why are they looming so large? they are looming so _ why are they looming so large? they are looming so large because they are looming so large because they are being — are looming so large because they are being seen as a test of the conservative party's standing in the country _ conservative party's standing in the country and — conservative party's standing in the country and their ability to win the next general election was that whenever that comes, it's due in 2024 _ whenever that comes, it's due in 2024. significant and we will take wakefield first because boris johnson is in power because of this truly historic shifted support traditionally from the main opposition labour party in the north of the _ opposition labour party in the north of the country, formally industrialise part for many people voted _ industrialise part for many people voted for— industrialise part for many people voted for brexit, so that really change — voted for brexit, so that really change things around. and the reason why it's _ change things around. and the reason why it's a _ change things around. and the reason why it's a problem in devon potentially if that is sort of a concern _ potentially if that is sort of a concern for the conservatives could also lose _ concern for the conservatives could also lose seats to the pro—european liberat— also lose seats to the pro—european liberal democrats. so with this idea that the _ liberal democrats. so with this idea that the conservatives vote to be squeezed in the south of the country and in _ squeezed in the south of the country and in the _ squeezed in the south of the country and in the north.— and in the north. there might be those watching who _ and in the north. there might be those watching who think- and in the north. there might be those watching who think they i and in the north. there might be l those watching who think they are always by elections and attending gets to mid terms of what is a big deal was meant and they will be right. deal was meant and they will be riuht. a , , ., right. many times when governing arties right. many times when governing parties have _ right. many times when governing parties have lost _ right. many times when governing parties have lost by elections - right. many times when governing parties have lost by elections and | parties have lost by elections and gone _ parties have lost by elections and gone on — parties have lost by elections and gone on to— parties have lost by elections and gone on to win the next general election — gone on to win the next general election. but i think what this is though— election. but i think what this is though is— election. but i think what this is though is it goes to the sort of very— though is it goes to the sort of very heart— though is it goes to the sort of very heart of the conservatives collectibility, this idea of our some — collectibility, this idea of our some people, and class people who voted _ some people, and class people who voted conservative in 2019, sort of lending _ voted conservative in 2019, sort of lending the party their vote but they withdraw it again? one other thing people _ they withdraw it again? one other thing people might _ they withdraw it again? one other thing people might be _ they withdraw it again? one other thing people might be wondering | they withdraw it again? one other. thing people might be wondering is what is the plan here. all the rebels who are voting against boris johnson, what is a scenario they hope for once he is gone? that's a cracking question _ hope for once he is gone? that's a cracking question and _ hope for once he is gone? that's a cracking question and it one - hope for once he is gone? that's a cracking question and it one of - hope for once he is gone? that's a cracking question and it one of the reasons— cracking question and it one of the reasons why we have not arrived at this point _ reasons why we have not arrived at this point any earlier if they don't appear— this point any earlier if they don't appear to — this point any earlier if they don't appear to have one. this is not a organise — appear to have one. this is not a organise plot we discussed earlier that in_ organise plot we discussed earlier that in order to have a political murder, — that in order to have a political murder, you need an assassin and the assassin _ murder, you need an assassin and the assassin needs to have a band of trrothers— assassin needs to have a band of brothers and that has not happened. there _ brothers and that has not happened. there is— brothers and that has not happened. there is not— brothers and that has not happened. there is not some candidate wielding the knife _ there is not some candidate wielding the knife to— there is not some candidate wielding the knife to everyone wants to rally around _ the knife to everyone wants to rally around and — the knife to everyone wants to rally around and until now that is what has been — around and until now that is what has been to borisjohnson. what around and until now that is what has been to boris johnson. what did ou make has been to boris johnson. what did you make of — has been to boris johnson. what did you make of jeremy _ has been to boris johnson. what did you make ofjeremy hunt _ has been to boris johnson. what did you make ofjeremy hunt saying - has been to boris johnson. what did you make ofjeremy hunt saying he | you make ofjeremy hunt saying he would vote against, april work for secretary who stood against boris johnson in 2019 but is much more towards the centre of the party that many of the mp5 who have voted today? many of the mps who have voted toda ? ~ . . ~ many of the mps who have voted toda ? ~ ., ., ,, ., , , today? what i make of it is he is ”uttin today? what i make of it is he is putting his _ today? what i make of it is he is putting his hat — today? what i make of it is he is putting his hat in _ today? what i make of it is he is putting his hat in the _ today? what i make of it is he is putting his hat in the ring - today? what i make of it is he is putting his hat in the ring but. putting his hat in the ring but actuatty~~~ _ putting his hat in the ring but actually- - -_ putting his hat in the ring but actuall...�* .,y , actually... but if the tory party in osition actually... but if the tory party in position to _ actually... but if the tory party in position to start _ actually... but if the tory party in position to start shooting - position to start shooting someone on that side of the political spectrum?— on that side of the political sectrum? , ., ., , , , spectrum? the short answer is i “ust don't know spectrum? the short answer is i “ust don-t know but �* spectrum? the short answer is i “ust don't know but one i spectrum? the short answer is i “ust don't know but one of i spectrum? the short answer is i “ust don't know but one of most �* don't know but one of most interesting things i heard today talking to lots of conservative mps is that _ talking to lots of conservative mps is that the — talking to lots of conservative mps is that the vision is johnson wins try is that the vision is johnson wins by a _ is that the vision is johnson wins by a small— is that the vision is johnson wins by a small margin, then civil war breaks— by a small margin, then civil war breaks out— by a small margin, then civil war breaks out in the party. and i think that is— breaks out in the party. and i think that is a _ breaks out in the party. and i think that is a real— breaks out in the party. and i think that is a real danger. that is what this is— that is a real danger. that is what this is a _ that is a real danger. that is what this is a moment of peril notjust for the _ this is a moment of peril notjust for the prime minister but for the governing conservative party. you asked _ governing conservative party. you asked about this leadership issue is one of— asked about this leadership issue is one of the — asked about this leadership issue is one of the reasons again while there is a problem is again the conservative party cannot decide whether— conservative party cannot decide whether britain's post prexy future is small— whether britain's post prexy future is small state, small tax, so called the singapore on attempts, or a much more _ the singapore on attempts, or a much more interventionist and larger state _ more interventionist and larger state having people out here and industries — state having people out here and industries out here and that is what i guess— industries out here and that is what i guess the — industries out here and that is what i guess the only word for it is a sort _ i guess the only word for it is a sort of— i guess the only word for it is a sort of a — i guess the only word for it is a sort of a puzzle, a challenge, a mess — sort of a puzzle, a challenge, a mess you _ sort of a puzzle, a challenge, a mess. you can pick your adjectives and nouns — mess. you can pick your ad'ectives and nouns. thank you. all political arties in and nouns. thank you. all political parties in different _ and nouns. thank you. all political parties in different ways _ and nouns. thank you. all political parties in different ways have - and nouns. thank you. all political parties in different ways have to i parties in different ways have to assemble coalitions in order to be successful and borisjohnson successful and boris johnson definitely successful and borisjohnson definitely did that across the uk in 2019. the question is will he be given a second chance when the next general election is slated to come along in 2024? just a reminder that we are at a quarter to the hour and a quarter to 9pm here in central london and it is at not be in that we think we will get an update from sir graeme brady, chair of the 1920s a committee which represents tory mps, and he will tell us the results. and now look at this update from the bbc�*s nicholas watt, who have now had more details give us a very long faces on supporters of borisjohnson after the pole close with 1am i saying tory mps are a bunch of lying snakes and i don't trust anything about them. interestingly one of those long faces includes a strong supporter of the prime minister who set of the riddles i can throttle some of my colleagues with what they want to hand our country to a coalition of labour, the snp and liberal democrats. they are unimpressed by that and say other sources are telling the bbc they think the prime minister has one. we want get the results from what happened. one important has been the position taken by a number of tory mps in scotland and we know for scottish tory mps have confirmed they voted against borisjohnson in this confidence motion and one of them if the leader of the scottish conservatives, douglas ross. he said... another west aberdeen sure mp said... let's bring in our scotland editor james cook outside the scottish parliament. out of the dynamics work amongst the tory mps in scotland was meant once a leader goes in all direction coming? ida. meant once a leader goes in all direction coming? no, necessarily because they _ direction coming? no, necessarily because they have _ direction coming? no, necessarily because they have two _ direction coming? no, necessarily because they have two leaders. i direction coming? no, necessarily. because they have two leaders. that is the _ because they have two leaders. that is the main — because they have two leaders. that is the main problem _ because they have two leaders. that is the main problem for— because they have two leaders. that is the main problem for members. because they have two leaders. that is the main problem for members of| is the main problem for members of partiament— is the main problem for members of parliament and douglas _ is the main problem for members of parliament and douglas ross - is the main problem for members ofl parliament and douglas ross himself as a member— parliament and douglas ross himself as a member of— parliament and douglas ross himself as a member of this _ parliament and douglas ross himself as a member of this parliament - parliament and douglas ross himself as a member of this parliament and i as a member of this parliament and also of— as a member of this parliament and also of course — as a member of this parliament and also of course as _ as a member of this parliament and also of course as a _ as a member of this parliament and also of course as a vote _ as a member of this parliament and also of course as a vote as - as a member of this parliament and also of course as a vote as you - also of course as a vote as you rightly — also of course as a vote as you rightly pointed out _ also of course as a vote as you rightly pointed out in - also of course as a vote as you rightly pointed out in this - rightly pointed out in this election _ rightly pointed out in this election. a— rightly pointed out in this election. a vote - rightly pointed out in this election. a vote of - rightly pointed out in this - election. a vote of confidence rather— election. a vote of confidence rather at _ election. a vote of confidence rather at westminster. - election. a vote of confidence rather at westminster. and ii election. a vote of confidence - rather at westminster. and i thought it was— rather at westminster. and i thought it was interesting _ rather at westminster. and i thought it was interesting just to _ rather at westminster. and i thought it was interesting just to expand on i it was interesting just to expand on some _ it was interesting just to expand on some of— it was interesting just to expand on some of the — it was interesting just to expand on some of the comments _ it was interesting just to expand on some of the comments that - it was interesting just to expand on some of the comments that mr- it was interesting just to expand on. some of the comments that mr ross was making — some of the comments that mr ross was making that _ some of the comments that mr ross was making that he _ some of the comments that mr ross was making that he talked _ some of the comments that mr ross was making that he talked about. was making that he talked about having _ was making that he talked about having heard _ was making that he talked about having heard loud _ was making that he talked about having heard loud and _ was making that he talked about having heard loud and clear- was making that he talked about having heard loud and clear thel having heard loud and clear the anger— having heard loud and clear the anger at— having heard loud and clear the anger at the _ having heard loud and clear the anger at the breaking _ having heard loud and clear the anger at the breaking of - having heard loud and clear the anger at the breaking of covertl anger at the breaking of covert rules— anger at the breaking of covert rules but— anger at the breaking of covert rules but i_ anger at the breaking of covert rules but i think— anger at the breaking of covert rules but i think his— anger at the breaking of covert rules but i think his certificate i anger at the breaking of covert i rules but i think his certificate to say he _ rules but i think his certificate to say he said — rules but i think his certificate to say he said even— rules but i think his certificate to say he said even more _ rules but i think his certificate to say he said even more so- rules but i think his certificate to say he said even more so the - say he said even more so the statements— say he said even more so the statements the _ say he said even more so the statements the statements l say he said even more so thei statements the statements to parliament — statements the statements to parliament on _ statements the statements to parliament on this _ statements the statements to parliament on this it - statements the statements to parliament on this it topic. . statements the statements toj parliament on this it topic. he suggests— parliament on this it topic. he suggests at— parliament on this it topic. he suggests at the _ parliament on this it topic. he suggests at the very - parliament on this it topic. he suggests at the very least - parliament on this it topic. he | suggests at the very least that parliament on this it topic. he . suggests at the very least that he feels _ suggests at the very least that he feels the — suggests at the very least that he feels the prime _ suggests at the very least that he feels the prime minister- suggests at the very least that he feels the prime minister has - suggests at the very least that he feels the prime minister has not. feels the prime minister has not been _ feels the prime minister has not been truthful— feels the prime minister has not been truthful with— feels the prime minister has not been truthful with the _ feels the prime minister has not been truthful with the house - feels the prime minister has not been truthful with the house ofl been truthful with the house of commons — been truthful with the house of commons and _ been truthful with the house of commons and for— been truthful with the house of commons and for him - been truthful with the house of commons and for him that - been truthful with the house of. commons and for him that seems been truthful with the house of- commons and for him that seems to be the most _ commons and for him that seems to be the most significant _ commons and for him that seems to be the most significant of _ commons and for him that seems to be the most significant of mr— commons and for him that seems to be the most significant of mrjohnson's - the most significant of mrjohnson's perceived _ the most significant of mrjohnson's perceived offences. _ the most significant of mrjohnson's perceived offences. 0r— the most significant of mrjohnson's perceived offences. or in _ the most significant of mrjohnson's perceived offences. or in the - perceived offences. or in the titerat— perceived offences. or in the literal offences _ perceived offences. or in the literal offences in— perceived offences. or in the literal offences in some - perceived offences. or in the| literal offences in some cases having — literal offences in some cases having been— literal offences in some cases having been fined _ literal offences in some cases having been fined by - literal offences in some cases having been fined by the - literal offences in some cases. having been fined by the police. literal offences in some cases- having been fined by the police. so ithink— having been fined by the police. so i think it _ having been fined by the police. so i think it is — having been fined by the police. so i think it is extraordinarily- i think it is extraordinarily difficult _ i think it is extraordinarily difficult for— i think it is extraordinarily difficult for douglas - i think it is extraordinarily difficult for douglas rossl i think it is extraordinarily- difficult for douglas ross because he had _ difficult for douglas ross because he had come _ difficult for douglas ross because he had come out _ difficult for douglas ross because he had come out to— difficult for douglas ross because he had come out to oppose - difficult for douglas ross because he had come out to oppose the i difficult for douglas ross because - he had come out to oppose the prime minister. _ he had come out to oppose the prime minister. he — he had come out to oppose the prime minister. he had _ he had come out to oppose the prime minister, he had then changed - he had come out to oppose the prime minister, he had then changed his- minister, he had then changed his mind _ minister, he had then changed his mind and said _ minister, he had then changed his mind and said the war— minister, he had then changed his mind and said the war in- minister, he had then changed his mind and said the war in ukraine. mind and said the war in ukraine means— mind and said the war in ukraine means now— mind and said the war in ukraine means now is— mind and said the war in ukraine means now is at— mind and said the war in ukraine means now is at the _ mind and said the war in ukraine means now is at the time - mind and said the war in ukraine means now is at the time for. means now is at the time for a leadership— means now is at the time for a leadership contest— means now is at the time for a leadership contest and - means now is at the time for a leadership contest and he - means now is at the time for a leadership contest and he told| means now is at the time for a . leadership contest and he told us means now is at the time for a - leadership contest and he told us he withdrawn his— leadership contest and he told us he withdrawn his letter— leadership contest and he told us he withdrawn his letter to _ leadership contest and he told us he withdrawn his letter to the - leadership contest and he told us he withdrawn his letter to the 1922 - withdrawn his letter to the 1922 committee _ withdrawn his letter to the 1922 committee. and _ withdrawn his letter to the 1922 committee. and then— withdrawn his letter to the 1922 committee. and then he - withdrawn his letter to the 1922 committee. and then he had i withdrawn his letter to the 1922 - committee. and then he had tonight come _ committee. and then he had tonight come out _ committee. and then he had tonight come out against _ committee. and then he had tonight come out against the _ committee. and then he had tonight come out against the prime - committee. and then he had tonight come out against the prime ministerj come out against the prime minister again— come out against the prime minister again and _ come out against the prime minister again and the — come out against the prime minister again and the difficulty for _ come out against the prime minister again and the difficulty for mr ross i again and the difficulty for mr ross is this— again and the difficulty for mr ross is this of— again and the difficulty for mr ross is this of course _ again and the difficulty for mr ross is this of course and _ again and the difficulty for mr ross is this of course and in _ again and the difficulty for mr ross is this of course and in some - is this of course and in some respects— is this of course and in some respects the _ is this of course and in some respects the difficulty - is this of course and in some respects the difficulty for. is this of course and in some | respects the difficulty for the party. — respects the difficulty for the party. if— respects the difficulty for the party. if boris _ respects the difficulty for the party, if boris johnson - respects the difficulty for the i party, if boris johnson survives, how— party, if boris johnson survives, how can — party, if boris johnson survives, how can mr— party, if boris johnson survives, how can mr ross _ party, if boris johnson survives, how can mr ross credibly - party, if boris johnson survives, how can mr ross credibly knock| party, if boris johnson survives, i how can mr ross credibly knock on doors _ how can mr ross credibly knock on doors here — how can mr ross credibly knock on doors here in— how can mr ross credibly knock on doors here in scotland _ how can mr ross credibly knock on doors here in scotland and - how can mr ross credibly knock on doors here in scotland and the - how can mr ross credibly knock oni doors here in scotland and the next general— doors here in scotland and the next general election— doors here in scotland and the next general election and say— doors here in scotland and the next general election and say the - general election and say the people with a _ general election and say the people with a straight— general election and say the people with a straight face vote _ general election and say the people with a straight face vote for - general election and say the people with a straight face vote for me - general election and say the people with a straight face vote for me to i with a straight face vote for me to bring boris — with a straight face vote for me to bring borisjohnson _ with a straight face vote for me to bring borisjohnson back- with a straight face vote for me to bring boris johnson back as - with a straight face vote for me to bring borisjohnson back as primej bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? — bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? a— bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? a man _ bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? a man i _ bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? a man i have _ bring borisjohnson back as prime minister? a man i have publicly. bring borisjohnson back as prime i minister? a man i have publicly said is not fit _ minister? a man i have publicly said is not fit for office. _ minister? a man i have publicly said is not fit for office. that _ minister? a man i have publicly said is not fit for office. that is _ minister? a man i have publicly said is not fit for office. that is his - is not fit for office. that is his problem _ is not fit for office. that is his problem but weighing - is not fit for office. that is his problem but weighing against is not fit for office. that is his - problem but weighing against them and i problem but weighing against them and i think— problem but weighing against them and i think it's _ problem but weighing against them and i think it's clear— problem but weighing against them and i think it's clear from _ problem but weighing against them and i think it's clear from not- problem but weighing against them and i think it's clear from notjust i and i think it's clear from notjust what _ and i think it's clear from notjust what he _ and i think it's clear from notjust what he said _ and i think it's clear from notjust what he said but— and i think it's clear from notjust what he said but what— and i think it's clear from notjust what he said but what his - and i think it's clear from notjust what he said but what his fellow. and i think it's clear from notjust - what he said but what his fellow mps who are _ what he said but what his fellow mps who are voting — what he said but what his fellow mps who are voting against _ what he said but what his fellow mps who are voting against mr— what he said but what his fellow mps who are voting against mrjohnson i who are voting against mrjohnson have said — who are voting against mrjohnson have said is — who are voting against mrjohnson have said is this _ who are voting against mrjohnson have said is this way— who are voting against mrjohnson have said is this way of— who are voting against mrjohnson have said is this way of anger, - have said is this way of anger, almost — have said is this way of anger, almost all— have said is this way of anger, almost all of— have said is this way of anger, almost all of them _ have said is this way of anger, almost all of them using - have said is this way of anger, almost all of them using the i almost all of them using the word anger— almost all of them using the word angertonight, angry— almost all of them using the word anger tonight, angry and - almost all of them using the word anger tonight, angry and upset i almost all of them using the word i anger tonight, angry and upset says andrew— anger tonight, angry and upset says andrew barry— anger tonight, angry and upset says andrew barry and _ anger tonight, angry and upset says andrew barry and john _ anger tonight, angry and upset says andrew barry and john limits - anger tonight, angry and upset says| andrew barry and john limits talking but people _ andrew barry and john limits talking but people have _ andrew barry and john limits talking but people have been _ andrew barry and john limits talking but people have been rightly- andrew barry and john limits talking but people have been rightly deeply| but people have been rightly deeply angered and — but people have been rightly deeply angered and david mcdowell- but people have been rightly deeplyj angered and david mcdowell talking about listening _ angered and david mcdowell talking about listening to _ angered and david mcdowell talking about listening to the _ angered and david mcdowell talking about listening to the views - angered and david mcdowell talking about listening to the views of - angered and david mcdowell talking about listening to the views of his i about listening to the views of his constituents _ about listening to the views of his constituents. so— about listening to the views of his constituents. so i— about listening to the views of his constituents. so i think— about listening to the views of his constituents. so i think all- about listening to the views of his constituents. so i think all of - about listening to the views of his constituents. so i think all of thatj constituents. so i think all of that and particularly— constituents. so i think all of that and particularly in _ constituents. so i think all of that and particularly in scotland - constituents. so i think all of thatj and particularly in scotland where boris _ and particularly in scotland where borisjohnson's _ and particularly in scotland where borisjohnson's popularity- and particularly in scotland where boris johnson's popularity ratings| boris johnson's popularity ratings are catastrophically_ boris johnson's popularity ratings are catastrophically poor - boris johnson's popularity ratings are catastrophically poor have - are catastrophically poor have forced — are catastrophically poor have forced the _ are catastrophically poor have forced the scottish _ are catastrophically poor have i forced the scottish conservative party— forced the scottish conservative party into — forced the scottish conservative party into this _ forced the scottish conservative party into this position. - forced the scottish conservative party into this position. interested ou party into this position. interested you mentioned — party into this position. interested you mentioned those _ party into this position. interested you mentioned those ratings - party into this position. interested i you mentioned those ratings because we have been discussing how boris johnson very successfully took the conservative party into parts of england which had been struggling, that was what happened in 2019, what is his relationship and impact on scottish voters? to is his relationship and impact on scottish voters?— is his relationship and impact on scottish voters? to be frank, he has been exceptionally _ scottish voters? to be frank, he has been exceptionally unpopular- scottish voters? to be frank, he has i been exceptionally unpopular amongst scottish— been exceptionally unpopular amongst scottish voters. — been exceptionally unpopular amongst scottish voters, at _ been exceptionally unpopular amongst scottish voters, at least _ been exceptionally unpopular amongst scottish voters, at least according - scottish voters, at least according to the _ scottish voters, at least according to the opinion _ scottish voters, at least according to the opinion polls _ scottish voters, at least according to the opinion polls and _ scottish voters, at least according to the opinion polls and indeed i scottish voters, at least according i to the opinion polls and indeed the most _ to the opinion polls and indeed the most recent— to the opinion polls and indeed the most recent actual— to the opinion polls and indeed the most recent actual pulp, _ to the opinion polls and indeed the most recent actual pulp, the - to the opinion polls and indeed the most recent actual pulp, the local. most recent actual pulp, the local elections. — most recent actual pulp, the local elections, seem _ most recent actual pulp, the local elections, seem to _ most recent actual pulp, the local elections, seem to suggest - most recent actual pulp, the local elections, seem to suggest that i most recent actual pulp, the local. elections, seem to suggest that that unpopularity— elections, seem to suggest that that unpopularity in — elections, seem to suggest that that unpopularity in effect _ elections, seem to suggest that that unpopularity in effect a _ elections, seem to suggest that that unpopularity in effect a wider since l unpopularity in effect a wider since the conservative _ unpopularity in effect a wider since the conservative party— unpopularity in effect a wider since the conservative party losing - unpopularity in effect a wider since the conservative party losing more than 60 _ the conservative party losing more than 60 counsellors _ the conservative party losing more than 60 counsellors in— the conservative party losing more than 60 counsellors in that - the conservative party losing more than 60 counsellors in that local. than 60 counsellors in that local election. — than 60 counsellors in that local election, being _ than 60 counsellors in that local election, being pushed - than 60 counsellors in that local election, being pushed out - than 60 counsellors in that local election, being pushed out of. election, being pushed out of the second _ election, being pushed out of the second place _ election, being pushed out of the second place which _ election, being pushed out of the second place which they - election, being pushed out of the second place which they had - election, being pushed out of the . second place which they had reached under— second place which they had reached under the _ second place which they had reached under the previous— second place which they had reached under the previous leader— second place which they had reached under the previous leader here - second place which they had reached under the previous leader here ruth| under the previous leader here ruth davidson— under the previous leader here ruth davidson and — under the previous leader here ruth davidson and into _ under the previous leader here ruth davidson and into third _ under the previous leader here ruth davidson and into third place - under the previous leader here ruth davidson and into third place in - davidson and into third place in scottish— davidson and into third place in scottish councils _ davidson and into third place in scottish councils in _ davidson and into third place in scottish councils in terms - davidson and into third place in scottish councils in terms of. davidson and into third place in - scottish councils in terms of number of counsellors — scottish councils in terms of number of counsellors. so _ scottish councils in terms of number of counsellors. so he _ scottish councils in terms of number of counsellors. so he has _ scottish councils in terms of number of counsellors. so he has a - of counsellors. so he has a problem and indeed — of counsellors. so he has a problem and indeed during _ of counsellors. so he has a problem and indeed during the _ of counsellors. so he has a problem and indeed during the pandemic, i and indeed during the pandemic, popularity— and indeed during the pandemic, popularity ratings, _ and indeed during the pandemic, popularity ratings, if _ and indeed during the pandemic, popularity ratings, if you - and indeed during the pandemic, popularity ratings, if you take - and indeed during the pandemic, . popularity ratings, if you take them seriously— popularity ratings, if you take them seriously and — popularity ratings, if you take them seriously and optically— popularity ratings, if you take them seriously and optically taken - popularity ratings, if you take them seriously and optically taken to - popularity ratings, if you take them seriously and optically taken to a i seriously and optically taken to a certain— seriously and optically taken to a certain degree _ seriously and optically taken to a certain degree with _ seriously and optically taken to a certain degree with a _ seriously and optically taken to a certain degree with a pinch - seriously and optically taken to a certain degree with a pinch of. seriously and optically taken to a . certain degree with a pinch of salt but they— certain degree with a pinch of salt but they consistently— certain degree with a pinch of salt but they consistently suggest - certain degree with a pinch of saltj but they consistently suggest that there _ but they consistently suggest that there was— but they consistently suggest that there was just _ but they consistently suggest that there was just a _ but they consistently suggest that there wasjust a golf, _ but they consistently suggest that there wasjust a golf, an - but they consistently suggest that. there wasjust a golf, an enormous lulf there wasjust a golf, an enormous gulf between — there wasjust a golf, an enormous gulf between the _ there wasjust a golf, an enormous gulf between the first _ there wasjust a golf, an enormous gulf between the first minister- there wasjust a golf, an enormous gulf between the first minister of. gulf between the first minister of scotland — gulf between the first minister of scotland nicola _ gulf between the first minister of scotland nicola sturgeon and - gulf between the first minister of scotland nicola sturgeon and the| scotland nicola sturgeon and the prime _ scotland nicola sturgeon and the prime minister— scotland nicola sturgeon and the prime minister boris _ scotland nicola sturgeon and the prime minister borisjohnson, i scotland nicola sturgeon and the. prime minister borisjohnson, and that at— prime minister borisjohnson, and that at it — prime minister borisjohnson, and that at u think— prime minister borisjohnson, and that at ll think nearly— prime minister borisjohnson, and that at ll think nearly a _ prime minister borisjohnson, and that at ll think nearly a 100 - prime minister borisjohnson, and that at ll think nearly a 100 point| that at ll think nearly a 100 point -ap that at ll think nearly a 100 point gap between _ that at ll think nearly a 100 point gap between the _ that at ll think nearly a 100 point gap between the two _ that at ll think nearly a 100 point gap between the two of _ that at ll think nearly a 100 point gap between the two of them. - that at ll think nearly a 100 point. gap between the two of them. now nicola _ gap between the two of them. now nicola sturgeon's_ gap between the two of them. now nicola sturgeon's opinion _ gap between the two of them. now nicola sturgeon's opinion poll- nicola sturgeon's opinion poll ratings — nicola sturgeon's opinion poll ratings have _ nicola sturgeon's opinion poll ratings have fallen _ nicola sturgeon's opinion poll ratings have fallen quite - ratings have fallen quite considerably— ratings have fallen quite considerably since - ratings have fallen quite considerably since then. ratings have fallen quite i considerably since then but ratings have fallen quite - considerably since then but she still remains _ considerably since then but she still remains more _ considerably since then but she still remains more popular- considerably since then but she j still remains more popular than considerably since then but she . still remains more popular than mr johnson _ still remains more popular than mr johnson by— still remains more popular than mr johnson by a — still remains more popular than mr johnson by a country _ still remains more popular than mr johnson by a country mile - still remains more popular than mr johnson by a country mile and - still remains more popular than mr johnson by a country mile and i- johnson by a country mile and i suppose — johnson by a country mile and i suppose that _ johnson by a country mile and i suppose that is _ johnson by a country mile and i suppose that is popularity - johnson by a country mile and i suppose that is popularity and. suppose that is popularity and individuals— suppose that is popularity and individuals and _ suppose that is popularity and individuals and personality - suppose that is popularity andl individuals and personality and suppose that is popularity and - individuals and personality and how much _ individuals and personality and how much does that _ individuals and personality and how much does that really matter - individuals and personality and how much does that really matter in - individuals and personality and howj much does that really matter in the grand _ much does that really matter in the grand scheme — much does that really matter in the grand scheme of— much does that really matter in the grand scheme of things _ much does that really matter in the grand scheme of things was? - much does that really matter in the i grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters— grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters to _ grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters to a — grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters to a certain _ grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters to a certain extent - grand scheme of things was? honestly it matters to a certain extent but - it matters to a certain extent but what _ it matters to a certain extent but what do — it matters to a certain extent but what do people who _ it matters to a certain extent but what do people who support - it matters to a certain extent but what do people who support thei it matters to a certain extent but - what do people who support the union and support— what do people who support the union and support the — what do people who support the union and support the conservative - what do people who support the union and support the conservative party- and support the conservative party but don't _ and support the conservative party but don't support _ and support the conservative party but don't support boris _ and support the conservative party but don't support boris johnson - and support the conservative party| but don't support boris johnson are concerned — but don't support boris johnson are concerned about— but don't support boris johnson are concerned about is _ but don't support boris johnson are concerned about is the _ but don't support boris johnson are concerned about is the damage - but don't support boris johnson are | concerned about is the damage that this might _ concerned about is the damage that this might be — concerned about is the damage that this might be doing _ concerned about is the damage that this might be doing to _ concerned about is the damage that this might be doing to the - concerned about is the damage that this might be doing to the union. i this might be doing to the union. and to _ this might be doing to the union. and to giving _ this might be doing to the union. and to giving oxygen _ this might be doing to the union. and to giving oxygen to - this might be doing to the union. and to giving oxygen to the - this might be doing to the union. i and to giving oxygen to the scottish nationat— and to giving oxygen to the scottish national party— and to giving oxygen to the scottish national party and _ and to giving oxygen to the scottish national party and their _ and to giving oxygen to the scottish national party and their suggestionl national party and their suggestion that scotland — national party and their suggestion that scotland is _ national party and their suggestion that scotland is governed - national party and their suggestion that scotland is governed by - national party and their suggestion that scotland is governed by an - that scotland is governed by an elite _ that scotland is governed by an elite cabal _ that scotland is governed by an elite cabal as— that scotland is governed by an elite cabal as they _ that scotland is governed by an elite cabal as they would - that scotland is governed by an elite cabal as they would have. that scotland is governed by ani elite cabal as they would have it that scotland is governed by an . elite cabal as they would have it of people _ elite cabal as they would have it of people who — elite cabal as they would have it of people who know _ elite cabal as they would have it of people who know nothing - elite cabal as they would have it of people who know nothing about i elite cabal as they would have it of. people who know nothing about this country. care — people who know nothing about this country, care less _ people who know nothing about this country, care less and _ people who know nothing about this country, care less and are _ people who know nothing about this country, care less and are not- country, care less and are not interested _ country, care less and are not interested in— country, care less and are not. interested in understanding the values — interested in understanding the values of— interested in understanding the values of the _ interested in understanding the values of the people _ interested in understanding the values of the people of- interested in understanding the| values of the people of scotland hold _ values of the people of scotland hold now — values of the people of scotland hold now to _ values of the people of scotland hold. now to be _ values of the people of scotland hold. now to be fair— values of the people of scotland hold. now to be fair plenty - values of the people of scotland i hold. now to be fair plenty people south _ hold. now to be fair plenty people south of _ hold. now to be fair plenty people south of the — hold. now to be fair plenty people south of the border _ hold. now to be fair plenty people south of the border who _ hold. now to be fair plenty people south of the border who feel - hold. now to be fair plenty people south of the border who feel that. south of the border who feel that that might be _ south of the border who feel that that might be a _ south of the border who feel that that might be a fair— south of the border who feel that that might be a fair critique - south of the border who feel that that might be a fair critique of. that might be a fair critique of the prime _ that might be a fair critique of the prime minister is _ that might be a fair critique of the prime minister is well— that might be a fair critique of the prime minister is well and - that might be a fair critique of the prime minister is well and plenty. that might be a fair critique of the i prime minister is well and plenty of people on— prime minister is well and plenty of people on his — prime minister is well and plenty of people on his side _ prime minister is well and plenty of people on his side who— prime minister is well and plenty of people on his side who would - prime minister is well and plenty of people on his side who would say. people on his side who would say it's totally — people on his side who would say it's totally ridiculous _ people on his side who would say it's totally ridiculous and - people on his side who would say it's totally ridiculous and that - it's totally ridiculous and that it would — it's totally ridiculous and that it would be — it's totally ridiculous and that it would be absurd _ it's totally ridiculous and that it would be absurd to _ it's totally ridiculous and that it would be absurd to say- it's totally ridiculous and that it would be absurd to say that - would be absurd to say that popularity _ would be absurd to say that popularity should _ would be absurd to say that popularity should have - would be absurd to say that - popularity should have anything to do with _ popularity should have anything to do with a — popularity should have anything to do with a series _ popularity should have anything to do with a series of _ popularity should have anything to do with a series of subject - popularity should have anything to do with a series of subject as - popularity should have anything to do with a series of subject as the i do with a series of subject as the future _ do with a series of subject as the future of— do with a series of subject as the future of the _ do with a series of subject as the future of the uk. _ do with a series of sub'ect as the future of the uk._ do with a series of sub'ect as the future of the uk. james, thank you very much indeed. _ future of the uk. james, thank you very much indeed. as _ future of the uk. james, thank you very much indeed. as night - future of the uk. james, thank you very much indeed. as night falls i very much indeed. as night falls here in downing street this is of course a place that is seen plenty of little drama since 2016 and that buffer brexit in the morning afterward, david cameron stood here and said he was resigning. go through in a 2019 and theresa may stood here and said she was stepping down because she could not get any version of brexit through parliament. well, that drama now leads on the borisjohnson and in the next two minutes we will be finding out whether conservative mps well into continue as leader of the party and continue as prime minister and these are the light pictures that we have coming from parliament, from westminster and the result we are taught will be given to us by sir graham brady, chair of the 1922 committee with the present story mps at nine p:m.. as we approach that moment, let's hear the latest thoughts of the bbc political editor chris mason. the thoughts of the bbc political editor chris mason-— chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee — chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part — chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part of _ chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part of that _ chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part of that is - chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part of that is in - chris mason. the end of the party, the jubilee part of that is in the - thejubilee part of that is in the roaring politics. the premise are often spends time talking to other leaders as there was a phone call with the president of ukraine this morning and a meeting with the estonian prime minister in the afternoon. and borisjohnson said plenty of time to persuading his own mps to back him, staying here in downing street. in a letter to his mps, he said... and he concluded i am absolutely... earlierjust earlier just after earlierjust after 8pm in the morning —— 8am in the morning, the arrival of this man in front of the cameras told us borisjohnson'sjob cameras told us borisjohnson's job was cameras told us borisjohnson'sjob was on the cameras told us borisjohnson's job was on the life, cameras told us borisjohnson'sjob was on the life, his cameras told us borisjohnson's job was on the life, his fate to be decided today.— was on the life, his fate to be decided today. the threshold of 5096 ofthe decided today. the threshold of 5096 of the palm entry _ decided today. the threshold of 5096 of the palm entry party _ decided today. the threshold of 5096 of the palm entry party seeking - decided today. the threshold of 5096 of the palm entry party seeking a - of the palm entry party seeking a vote of— of the palm entry party seeking a vote of confidence in the prime minister— vote of confidence in the prime minister has been passed and therefore a vote of confidence will take place within the rules of the 1922 committee.— take place within the rules of the 1922 committee. ~ . 1922 committee. within minutes, the cabinet members _ 1922 committee. within minutes, the cabinet members were _ 1922 committee. within minutes, the cabinet members were out _ 1922 committee. within minutes, the cabinet members were out with - 1922 committee. within minutes, the cabinet members were out with their| cabinet members were out with their span. you accept this is bad news for any leader? span. you accept this is bad news forany leader? he span. you accept this is bad news for any leader?— span. you accept this is bad news for any leader? i've already said to other broadcasters _ for any leader? i've already said to other broadcasters it _ for any leader? i've already said to other broadcasters it is _ for any leader? i've already said to other broadcasters it is the - other broadcasters it is the privilege _ other broadcasters it is the privilege of— other broadcasters it is the privilege of every- other broadcasters it is the . privilege of every department other broadcasters it is the - privilege of every department to request— privilege of every department to request a — privilege of every department to request a new— privilege of every department to request a new leader— privilege of every department to request a new leader and - privilege of every department to request a new leader and i- privilege of every department to request a new leader and i don't think— request a new leader and i don't think that's _ request a new leader and i don't think that's the _ request a new leader and i don't think that's the right _ request a new leader and i don't think that's the right choice - request a new leader and i don't think that's the right choice but. think that's the right choice but i'm think that's the right choice but i'm not— think that's the right choice but i'm not going _ think that's the right choice but i'm not going to— think that's the right choice but i'm not going to condemn - think that's the right choice but i i'm not going to condemn people. think that's the right choice but - i'm not going to condemn people. i can i'm not going to condemn people. can possibly recover from this? by winning. a one—vote is enough. can possibly recover from this? by i winning. a one-vote is enough. two cabinet winning. a one—vote is enough. tim cabinet ministers turning out together. does that suggest you are worried? i together. does that suggest you are worried? . . together. does that suggest you are worried? , , ., , , worried? i suggest it means strength and uni . worried? i suggest it means strength and unity- we — worried? i suggest it means strength and unity. we both _ worried? i suggest it means strength and unity. we both bore _ worried? i suggest it means strength | and unity. we both bore the promised or if the _ and unity. we both bore the promised or if the thing — and unity. we both bore the promised or if the thing for— and unity. we both bore the promised or if the thing for our country- and unity. we both bore the promised or if the thing for our country and - or if the thing for our country and party— or if the thing for our country and party to draw _ or if the thing for our country and party to draw a _ or if the thing for our country and party to draw a line _ or if the thing for our country and party to draw a line under this . or if the thing for our country and. party to draw a line under this and move _ party to draw a line under this and move forward _ party to draw a line under this and move forward and _ party to draw a line under this and move forward and get _ party to draw a line under this and move forward and get back - party to draw a line under this and move forward and get back to - move forward and get back to focusing — move forward and get back to focusing on— move forward and get back to focusing on the _ move forward and get back to focusing on the core - move forward and get back to focusing on the core issues. move forward and get back to i focusing on the core issues that affect— focusing on the core issues that affect all— focusing on the core issues that affect all of _ focusing on the core issues that affect all of our— focusing on the core issues that affect all of our constituents. i . affect all of our constituents. i echo affect all of our constituents. echo what he just said and i affect all of our constituents.“ echo what he just said and i urge affect all of our constituents._ echo what he just said and i urge my colleagues _ echo what he just said and i urge my colleagues in parliament to unite today~ _ colleagues in parliament to unite toda. ,, , ., ., today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting _ today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting to _ today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting to be _ today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting to be heard _ today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting to be heard as - today. supporters in the foreground, critics wanting to be heard as well. l critics wanting to be heard as well. after prime minister's anti—corruption champion decided to resign. anti-corruption champion decided to resin. . . . anti-corruption champion decided to resin, ., , , ., anti-corruption champion decided to resin. ., , , ., , anti-corruption champion decided to resiun. ., , , ., , ., resign. leadership and integrity art central to the _ resign. leadership and integrity art central to the ministerial— resign. leadership and integrity art centralto the ministerial code, - central to the ministerial code, they— central to the ministerial code, they are — central to the ministerial code, they are baked _ central to the ministerial code, they are baked into _ central to the ministerial code, they are baked into and - central to the ministerial code, they are baked into and run - central to the ministerial code, - they are baked into and run through it like _ they are baked into and run through it like a _ they are baked into and run through it like a stick— they are baked into and run through it like a stick of— they are baked into and run through it like a stick of rock _ they are baked into and run through it like a stick of rock and _ they are baked into and run through it like a stick of rock and that - it like a stick of rock and that means— it like a stick of rock and that means in _ it like a stick of rock and that means i'm afraid _ it like a stick of rock and that means i'm afraid he's- it like a stick of rock and that means i'm afraid he's broken it like a stick of rock and that - means i'm afraid he's broken the code and — means i'm afraid he's broken the code and that means _ means i'm afraid he's broken the code and that means as - means i'm afraid he's broken the code and that means as a - means i'm afraid he's broken the code and that means as a result. means i'm afraid he's broken the - code and that means as a result that is a resignation — code and that means as a result that is a resignation matter— code and that means as a result that is a resignation matter for— code and that means as a result that is a resignation matter for any- is a resignation matter for any minister— is a resignation matter for any minister and _ is a resignation matter for any ministerand it— is a resignation matter for any minister and it also _ is a resignation matter for any minister and it also has - is a resignation matter for any minister and it also has to - is a resignation matter for any minister and it also has to be. minister and it also has to be resignation _ minister and it also has to be resignation for— minister and it also has to be resignation for me _ minister and it also has to be resignation for me as - minister and it also has to be resignation for me as well. i minister and it also has to be i resignation for me as well. find resignation for me as well. and [on . er resignation for me as well. and longer standing _ resignation for me as well. longer standing advocates for getting rid of borisjohnson added... getting rid of boris johnson added... ., ., , added... you cannot be sought -- in charie of added... you cannot be sought -- in charge of setting _ added... you cannot be sought -- in charge of setting the _ added... you cannot be sought -- in charge of setting the rules _ added... you cannot be sought -- in charge of setting the rules in - charge of setting the rules in lockdown and impolitely allow people under your direct leadership to break— under your direct leadership to break those rules.— under your direct leadership to break those rules. enter next to a otential break those rules. enter next to a potential successor. boris - potential successor. borisjohnson beatjeremy hunt to the job last time. mr hunt did not want to talk on camera today but his view is clear, tweeting... listen to this response to that from the culture secretary.— the culture secretary. disappointed that jeremy hunt _ the culture secretary. disappointed that jeremy hunt who _ the culture secretary. disappointed that jeremy hunt who said - the culture secretary. disappointed that jeremy hunt who said to - the culture secretary. disappointed that jeremy hunt who said to out i the culture secretary. disappointed i that jeremy hunt who said to out i'm thatjeremy hunt who said to out i'm not going _ thatjeremy hunt who said to out i'm not going to — thatjeremy hunt who said to out i'm not going to challenge the prime minister while there is a war in ukraine— minister while there is a war in ukraine has come out and challenge the prime _ ukraine has come out and challenge the prime minister on the day russia sends— the prime minister on the day russia sends rocky into kyiv.— sends rocky into kyiv. confidence both are always _ sends rocky into kyiv. confidence both are always bad _ sends rocky into kyiv. confidence both are always bad news - sends rocky into kyiv. confidence both are always bad news leadersj sends rocky into kyiv. confidence - both are always bad news leaders and their party and conservatives will wear the rooms of this tussle, the venom spat out openly today exposing the poison these moments often provoke. just 2.5 years ago, boris johnson won a stalking majority and tonight he is reduced to scrabbling around for every single vote among his colleagues. spot him getting out of the car? the premise or arrived in parliament to drive more persuading and it will find out at 9pm tonight what he is done. chris mason at westminster.— mason at westminster. thank you for that and now — mason at westminster. thank you for that and now straight to _ mason at westminster. thank you for that and now straight to nick early i that and now straight to nick early it was live with me from the palace of westminster. just minutes away from finding out how this confidence vote has gone. help us understand what the choreography is from this point onwards.— what the choreography is from this point onwards. pretty tense in here. look to a point onwards. pretty tense in here. look to a few— point onwards. pretty tense in here. look to a few government _ point onwards. pretty tense in here. look to a few government members j point onwards. pretty tense in here. - look to a few government members and a few steppers in different departments and there are a lot of nerves— departments and there are a lot of nerves about what the next few minutes — nerves about what the next few minutes are going to show for the prime _ minutes are going to show for the prime minister. in about three minutes' — prime minister. in about three minutes' time, sir graham brady who is the _ minutes' time, sir graham brady who is the chairman of the backbench 1922 committee will stand up and tell us— 1922 committee will stand up and tell us what the result is. now the expectation is not guaranteed and we do not _ expectation is not guaranteed and we do not know for sure and i cannot emphasise — do not know for sure and i cannot emphasise that enough but expectations are is he has won enough — expectations are is he has won enough votes to get through this boat _ enough votes to get through this boat but— enough votes to get through this boat. but the big question that we will all— boat. but the big question that we will all ask— boat. but the big question that we will all ask when this result comes through— will all ask when this result comes through in— will all ask when this result comes through in a few minutes' time is 'ust through in a few minutes' time is just how many of his own mps have turned _ just how many of his own mps have turned against him? and there are some _ turned against him? and there are some numbers to bear in mind. over 100 is— some numbers to bear in mind. over 100 isa— some numbers to bear in mind. over 100 isa bad— some numbers to bear in mind. over 100 is a bad result. i'vejust some numbers to bear in mind. over 100 is a bad result. i've just heard ministers— 100 is a bad result. i've just heard ministers telling me they think they will be _ ministers telling me they think they will be abandonment of the the prime minister— will be abandonment of the the prime minister if— will be abandonment of the the prime minister if 100 mps turned against him. minister if100 mps turned against him if— minister if100 mps turned against him if 133— minister if 100 mps turned against him. if 133 mp5 minister if 100 mps turned against him. if 133 mps turned against him, that means — him. if 133 mps turned against him, that means he has lost a bigger percentage of the party than theresa may did _ percentage of the party than theresa may did back in 2019 remember that she stayed _ may did back in 2019 remember that she stayed in the job and in theory had a year— she stayed in the job and in theory had a year say from a confidence vote _ had a year say from a confidence vote but— had a year say from a confidence vote but she stumbled through and resigned _ vote but she stumbled through and resigned a — vote but she stumbled through and resigned a few months later. so those _ resigned a few months later. so those two — resigned a few months later. so those two numbers are really going to matter _ those two numbers are really going to matter and there is a lot of speculation aboutjust to matter and there is a lot of speculation about just how bad this could _ speculation about just how bad this could be _ speculation about just how bad this could be for boris johnson and speculation about just how bad this could be for borisjohnson and it may well— could be for borisjohnson and it may well be that in the end it's not as bad _ may well be that in the end it's not as bad as some of his critics are hoping we — as bad as some of his critics are hoping we will know in a few minutes but it's— hoping we will know in a few minutes but it's a _ hoping we will know in a few minutes but it's a big — hoping we will know in a few minutes but it's a big moment for the prime minister— but it's a big moment for the prime minister and his leadership. andi minister and his leadership. and i cuess we minister and his leadership. and i guess we should _ minister and his leadership. and i guess we should if _ minister and his leadership. and i guess we should if the _ minister and his leadership. and i guess we should if the size - minister and his leadership. situci guess we should if the size it's not just a big moment for borisjohnson but at stake here is a future direction of the conservative party and while the conservative party is in charge also the future direction of the uk government? true absolutely — of the uk government? true absolutely and _ of the uk government? true absolutely and if _ of the uk government? true absolutely and if boris - of the uk government? true absolutely and if boris johnson of the uk government? true absolutely and if borisjohnson is wounded — absolutely and if borisjohnson is wounded by this it may make him think— wounded by this it may make him think twice — wounded by this it may make him think twice about some of his more contentious policies because he will have to _ contentious policies because he will have to look over his shoulder to make _ have to look over his shoulder to make sure — have to look over his shoulder to make sure that those mps who voted against _ make sure that those mps who voted against him are still backing him when _ against him are still backing him when it— against him are still backing him when it comes to those votes. if he is removed — when it comes to those votes. if he is removed from office, it looks really _ is removed from office, it looks really unlikely but a secret ballot, anything — really unlikely but a secret ballot, anything can happen, it would change the direction of the country and would raise big questions for tory mps about— would raise big questions for tory mps about what is going on in the future _ mps about what is going on in the future it's— mps about what is going on in the future. it's a big moment for the prime _ future. it's a big moment for the prime minister, for the conservative party. for— prime minister, for the conservative party, for parliament and for the country— party, for parliament and for the country as— party, for parliament and for the country as well and it will have a bil country as well and it will have a big impact— country as well and it will have a big impact on how borisjohnson governs — big impact on how borisjohnson governs in the future and if he is still the — governs in the future and if he is still the man in charge.— governs in the future and if he is still the man in charge. does boris johnson get _ still the man in charge. does boris johnson get told _ still the man in charge. does boris johnson get told in advance - still the man in charge. does boris johnson get told in advance of all. johnson get told in advance of all of us or does he find out with everyone else watching? i of us or does he find out with everyone else watching? i don't think he does. _ everyone else watching? i don't think he does. i _ everyone else watching? i don't think he does. ithink— everyone else watching? i don't think he does. i think he - everyone else watching? i don't think he does. i think he will. everyone else watching? i don't. think he does. i think he will find out at the — think he does. i think he will find out at the exact moment that we all do as— out at the exact moment that we all do as well— out at the exact moment that we all do as well and he is not here by the way _ do as well and he is not here by the way he _ do as well and he is not here by the way he has — do as well and he is not here by the way. he has coming to dentistry where _ way. he has coming to dentistry where you — way. he has coming to dentistry where you are for that result and he is not _ where you are for that result and he is not going — where you are for that result and he is not going be up in the room when sir graham brady reads out in a minute — sir graham brady reads out in a minute or— sir graham brady reads out in a minute or so. he is waiting to find out exactly— minute or so. he is waiting to find out exactly what that result is and i suspect — out exactly what that result is and i suspect he will want to say something tonight after it comes in i something tonight after it comes in i suspect— something tonight after it comes in i suspect that the people coming out here and _ i suspect that the people coming out here and maybe some government ministers— here and maybe some government ministers and rebels trying to spin that result to tell us what they think— that result to tell us what they think it — that result to tell us what they think it means but remember that when _ think it means but remember that when theresa may one, her backers came _ when theresa may one, her backers came and said time to move on and let's get— came and said time to move on and let's get on— came and said time to move on and let's get on with delivering some brexit— let's get on with delivering some brexit now. her critics said she is currently— brexit now. her critics said she is currently wounded and there is no way she _ currently wounded and there is no way she can carry on. so we may well be in _ way she can carry on. so we may well be in that— way she can carry on. so we may well be in that territory again the night and we _ be in that territory again the night and we are... the vote is done in a government— and we are... the vote is done in a government and prime minister are saying _ government and prime minister are saying it's time to talk about something else, the drama goes on because _ something else, the drama goes on because there will be conservative mps who _ because there will be conservative mps who are really, really unhappy. not long _ mps who are really, really unhappy. not long to — mps who are really, really unhappy. not long to go now and it should be any second — not long to go now and it should be any second that we find out that result _ any second that we find out that result from sir graham brady. the i can report as returning officer that 359 ballots were cast. no spoilt ballots. that the vote in favour of having confidence in boris johnson as leader was 211 and a vote against him was 148, and therefore i can announce that the parliamentary party does have confidence... applause. that is sirgraham that is sir graham brady saying that 211 of the 359 tory mps have voted that they have confidence in boris johnson, 148 have voted against. 32 shy of what they need to remove borisjohnson but shy of what they need to remove boris johnson but let's shy of what they need to remove borisjohnson but let's bring on the bbc news deputy political editor vicki young for your thoughts. let’s vicki young for your thoughts. let's look at it as — vicki young for your thoughts. let's look at it as it _ vicki young for your thoughts. let's look at it as it was _ vicki young for your thoughts. let�*s look at it as it was framed by downing street. they said a win is a win by one vote is enough, judged by that this is a success for boris johnson, he has seen of this attempt to oust him and there will be no contest that late but if you look at the numbers against him, that is at the numbers against him, that is at the much higher and that downing street would have liked, 148, let's think back to theresa may when she faced a challenge like this, it's worse than her performance and she was forced to resign in six months. that is a lot of unhappiness in the conservative parliamentary party and it's worth reiterating these are conservative mps, not floating voters or people in the marginal constituency, these are elected conservative mps who have worked with boris johnson conservative mps who have worked with borisjohnson up close and have decided they don't have confidence in him. there are all sorts of reasons, one cabinet minister earlier said most of them have been sacked or overlooked for promotion, they note they don't have a future under him so they voted against him. others want a different direction when it comes to the economy, they want tax cuts, more intervention when it comes to the cost of living but one thing that comes to again and again from ministers and mp5, they talk about boris johnson's character. something see lack integrity, they think partygate was a sign of someone who was not in control of the team, he wasn't able to lead them and wasn't able to lead by example and they are concerned thatis by example and they are concerned that is what many members of the public think, and isaiah bottom line most tory mps will be deciding today, is this months to a vote winner for the conservatives? will he help me keep my seat at the next election? that is a simple calculation and there will be many of them who have decided they don't think he is any more but he has won and he will not face an imminent leadership challenge but it underlines the depth of unhappiness among mps him. let’s underlines the depth of unhappiness among mps him-— among mps him. let's reiterate the result, all among mps him. let's reiterate the result. all 359 _ among mps him. let's reiterate the result, all 359 conservative - among mps him. let's reiterate the result, all 359 conservative mps - result, all 359 conservative mps voted, 211 voted they had confidence in borisjohnson, he needed 180 to continue this. 148 voted against so this is a more serious result for borisjohnson than theresa may's leadership challenge, in 2018, and to put this in context, how does the number of rebels compare with the number of rebels compare with the number of rebels compare with the number of people saying out loud they wanted boris johnson to number of people saying out loud they wanted borisjohnson to go? it's higher. this is a secret ballot and there was always a difference between those who speak publicly and say they are against him, we knew about the letters, there were around 20, over 50 to trigger this in the first place but this is a secret ballot which means those who work ministers could do whatever they like once they get into that room. just because you were on the government payroll, you could potentially vote against boris johnson but if you look at his backbenchers, i think there is a sizeable chunk of those in his party who were against him staying on. he is obviously damaged by this, i saw one senior conservative just now who said he has to change quickly, people around him know what needs to be done but others say we have heard of this before, he hasn't changed, some say he lacks vision, he has this huge majority of 80, the biggest win in decades and yet partly because of covid that derailed a programme of government that they want and now his vision, what he wants to do with that and whether he has the leadership qualities to take the country forward and it's been interesting, we have heard lots of tory mps saying now is not the time to remove a leader, there is war in ukraine and the cost of living crisis and problems coming down the track but lots of tory mps say the opposite, this country is facing a lot of difficulties and 148 of them don't think he is the man to do that and thatis think he is the man to do that and that is now potentially a big problem for borisjohnson, to have that depth of feeling against him among the people who are meant to be his supporters, it raises questions about whether he can get a programme through government. he has the cabinet on side, that raises eyebrows when you speak to tory backbenchers who say of course the hour are onside, many of them wouldn't have a job under somebody else. the cabinet have not moved against him but the crushing section is whether the depth of unhappiness means anyone in the cabinet says to borisjohnson he cannot carry on. most people think not much would like borisjohnson resign, he is not likely to go willingly now that he has won that round. for likely to go willingly now that he has won that round.— likely to go willingly now that he has won that round. for those of you 'ust 'oinin: has won that round. for those of you justioining us. _ has won that round. for those of you just joining us, let's— has won that round. for those of you just joining us, let's reiterate - has won that round. for those of you just joining us, let's reiterate the - justjoining us, let's reiterate the result in this confidence vote among tory mps about whether borisjohnson should stay as leader of the conservative party. in percentage terms 59% of tory mps voted for borisjohnson, 41 against. when theresa may faced a confidence vote she picked up 63% of the mp5 so borisjohnson has performed under what theresa may managed in late 2018. we should emphasise a couple of things, theresa may and boris johnson are different politicians but also theresa may carried on despite that result.— who think there are lots of unresolved rights issues that need to be sorted out and do they think that he is the man to do it.- that he is the man to do it. there is clearly a _ that he is the man to do it. there is clearly a sizeable _ that he is the man to do it. there is clearly a sizeable chunk - that he is the man to do it. there is clearly a sizeable chunk who i is clearly a sizeable chunk who don't was that but he does not have that clear policy problem that theresa may had. so as you say is not a definite pattern that boris johnson want to go in six months but it is an incredibly difficult for a prime minister to operate when you have a huge number of your own side who want you gone. first of all on a basic level is huge ammunition to the labour party and that's what downing street was reiterating today to mp5. they were say he is going to win this vote and it will win anyway and we know he will win it so all you are doing the voting against him is really damaging him, undermining him and putting impetus behind search here summer but you imagine what he will say the next time he is a prime minister cosmic questions. things have changed in the tory party completely divided it seems and when the labour leader has managed to unite most of his party he would argue. vicki young, thank you. the moment that result came through, that was the starting gun for different politicians and commentators to give their reaction to what's happening. let's have a look at what a couple of people have said. tim montgomerie, high profile commentator who was an adviser to borisjohnson for a time, says he's finished, it'sjust a matter of time. the education minister nadhim zahawi said borisjohnson won handsomely, hope we can draw a line under this issue. the prime minister and colleagues have been saying this about was a chance to draw a line under some of the pressures and move on with their policy agenda. nadhim zahawi is backing that up. guido fawkes, the commentator is tweeting that james cleverly is briefing journalists it was a clear win, he now has a third mandate from the parliamentary party. one mp speaking to jessica parliamentary party. one mp speaking tojessica olga of the guardian says it's a gut punch so lots of different reactions and that is how this will play out but as we go back to christian fraser in the bbc newsroom, 59% of tory mps saying to mrjohnson carry on and 41% saying no thanks. yes, thank you very much, ros, thank you for your coverage for us this evening. boris johnson lives to fight another day, but does this really draw a line under it? no leader or party ever benefits from a vote of no confidence. and already today we have seen plenty of blue on blue, plenty of infighting between supporters and detractors. 211 votes to 148 is a win, but it does not on first glance leave the prime minister in an improved position tonight. let's cross to central lobby and nick eardley is there for us. i understand you have someone with you. i understand you have someone with ou. ~' . �* , understand you have someone with ou. ~' ., �*, ., understand you have someone with ou. ~ ., �*, ., .,, understand you have someone with ou. ~ , you. i think that's a worse result than many _ you. i think that's a worse result than many in — you. i think that's a worse result than many in number— you. i think that's a worse result than many in number10 - you. i think that's a worse result than many in number 10 were i than many in number 10 were preparing for, a better result for boris johnson's critics preparing for, a better result for borisjohnson's critics than many of them expected this morning so let's chat to a cabinet minister, the world secretary simon hart. almost 150 tory mps want borisjohnson gone, he cannot recover from this can he? 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'fm ., can he? i disagree, 148 people have ob'ected can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but — can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide _ can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide just _ can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide just got _ can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide just got 6096 - can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide just got 6096 of - can he? i disagree, 148 people have objected but ide just got 6096 of the objected but ide just got 60% of the vote tonight, more than when he was a leader— vote tonight, more than when he was a leader so _ vote tonight, more than when he was a leader so a — vote tonight, more than when he was a leader so a greater number one temp— a leader so a greater number one tempto— a leader so a greater number one temp to stay than go. of course he has a _ temp to stay than go. of course he has a lot— temp to stay than go. of course he has a lot to — temp to stay than go. of course he has a lot to prove, we all do, it's been a choppy chapter, lots to prove to voters _ been a choppy chapter, lots to prove to voters and colleagues but tonight was decisive. to voters and colleagues but tonight was decisive-— was decisive. there is a steady stream of _ was decisive. there is a steady stream of loyalists _ was decisive. there is a steady stream of loyalists who - was decisive. there is a steady stream of loyalists who have i was decisive. there is a steady i stream of loyalists who have been brought down to central lobby to give a similar message that it's time to get behind the prime minister but you know that will not happen. the lebanese rebels will be emboldened by this. —— the rebels will be emboldened. 41% of the party want him gone. that will be emboldened. 4196 of the party want him gone-— want him gone. that was less who voted last time. _ want him gone. that was less who voted last time. they _ want him gone. that was less who voted last time. they are - want him gone. that was less who voted last time. they are bound i want him gone. that was less who | voted last time. they are bound to say that— voted last time. they are bound to say that and one thing we have to do was a _ say that and one thing we have to do was a party— say that and one thing we have to do was a party is be respectful of that fact. was a party is be respectful of that fact i_ was a party is be respectful of that fact iwill— was a party is be respectful of that fact. i will not stop slagging off colleagues who have agonised over this and _ colleagues who have agonised over this and come to this decision with great _ this and come to this decision with great personal distress in some cases— great personal distress in some cases because they feel strongly about— cases because they feel strongly about the situation. there are 208, whatever— about the situation. there are 208, whatever the final number was, if you take — whatever the final number was, if you take a — whatever the final number was, if you take a different view and we have _ you take a different view and we have to — you take a different view and we have to reconcile that.— you take a different view and we have to reconcile that. how? the reasons we _ have to reconcile that. how? the reasons we were _ have to reconcile that. how? the reasons we were voted _ have to reconcile that. how? the reasons we were voted in - have to reconcile that. how? the reasons we were voted in in - have to reconcile that. hrs-or? the reasons we were voted in in 2019 with that — reasons we were voted in in 2019 with that election result nobody thought— with that election result nobody thought was possible at that time, he has _ thought was possible at that time, he has to— thought was possible at that time, he has to remind people he can do that again — he has to remind people he can do that again and deliver, it sounds like a _ that again and deliver, it sounds like a well— that again and deliver, it sounds like a well worn line but deliver the things we promised then and i think— the things we promised then and i think he is— the things we promised then and i think he is a period of time now, maybe _ think he is a period of time now, maybe two— think he is a period of time now, maybe two years until the next election. — maybe two years until the next election, to show he can still do that _ election, to show he can still do that boris _ election, to show he can still do that. borisjohnson has proved critics— that. borisjohnson has proved critics wrong on numerous occasions in the _ critics wrong on numerous occasions in the past _ critics wrong on numerous occasions in the past and now has a chance to do that— in the past and now has a chance to do that again and i hope my colleagues gave him the chance to do that. colleagues gave him the chance to do that in— colleagues gave him the chance to do that. ., , ., ., ., that. in two weeks you have two by-elections. — that. in two weeks you have two by-elections, one _ that. in two weeks you have two by-elections, one in _ that. in two weeks you have two by-elections, one in wakefield i that. in two weeks you have two i by-elections, one in wakefield and by—elections, one in wakefield and one in devon, tiverton. both areas that it looks like there was a decent chance you will lose on the 23rd ofjune. that is another crisis point for the prime minister. i point for the prime minister. i would not describe it as crisis. if you look— would not describe it as crisis. if you look at 20 years are by—elections you will see labour and the conservatives have both taken a beating _ the conservatives have both taken a beating in by—elections only to win in the main — beating in by—elections only to win in the main election. of course we must take these occasions seriously the idea _ must take these occasions seriously the idea that this will be an indication of what happens in two years. _ indication of what happens in two years. now— indication of what happens in two years, now a legitimate poster will indicate _ years, now a legitimate poster will indicate that. there might be an angry— indicate that. there might be an angry reaction but we have a lot to prove _ angry reaction but we have a lot to prove but — angry reaction but we have a lot to prove but tonight was a chance for everyone — prove but tonight was a chance for everyone to express their view and for everyone to get the majority result _ for everyone to get the majority result and — for everyone to get the majority result and for every vote in this building — result and for every vote in this building of which there are many each _ building of which there are many each day, — building of which there are many each day, the person with the most votes _ each day, the person with the most votes wins and that is where we are. but the _ votes wins and that is where we are. but the prime minister can count on most of the party having his back and i wonder over the next few weeks when borisjohnson tries to do some contentious stuff might pass a law allowing ministers to override the brexit deal, he will have to look over his shoulder.— brexit deal, he will have to look over his shoulder. theresa may did that when she _ over his shoulder. theresa may did that when she didn't _ over his shoulder. theresa may did that when she didn't have - over his shoulder. theresa may did that when she didn't have any i that when she didn't have any majority— that when she didn't have any majority at all.— majority at all. she resigned because she _ majority at all. she resigned because she didn't - majority at all. she resigned because she didn't have i because she didn't have enough support. because she didn't have enough su ort. , a, , because she didn't have enough suuort. , a, , support. every vote requires careful ersuasion support. every vote requires careful persuasion and _ support. every vote requires careful persuasion and liaison, _ support. every vote requires careful persuasion and liaison, that - support. every vote requires careful persuasion and liaison, that is - persuasion and liaison, that is always— persuasion and liaison, that is always the case and it's quite a good _ always the case and it's quite a good thing, the fact we can never take anything for granted, we need to work_ take anything for granted, we need to work with every college irrespective of whether they voted for and _ irrespective of whether they voted for and against boris johnson, irrespective of whether they voted for and against borisjohnson, most voters _ for and against borisjohnson, most voters will_ for and against borisjohnson, most voters will expect that. i�*m for and against boris johnson, most voters will expect that.— voters will expect that. i'm not sooked voters will expect that. i'm not spooked by _ voters will expect that. i'm not spooked by that _ voters will expect that. i'm not spooked by that possibility. - spooked by that possibility. remember the night after theresa may's confidence vote, her ally said the same stuff you are saying, the party has spoken and we need to get behind the leader but a few months later she had to resign. boris johnson tonight has a smaller percentage of mps in his party backing him than theresa may. there is a difference. _ backing him than theresa may. there is a difference, you _ backing him than theresa may. there is a difference, you had _ backing him than theresa may. there is a difference, you had party- is a difference, you had party chairman_ is a difference, you had party chairman across the uk calling for theresa may to step down, she had no majority. _ theresa may to step down, she had no majority, we _ theresa may to step down, she had no majority, we were reliant on the dup and we _ majority, we were reliant on the dup and we had _ majority, we were reliant on the dup and we had brexit which was dividing opinion— and we had brexit which was dividing opinion within the party and country so to— opinion within the party and country so to compare those circumstances with these — so to compare those circumstances with these i— so to compare those circumstances with these i don't think is reasonable. it is important but it's not an_ reasonable. it is important but it's not an apples and apples comparison by a long _ not an apples and apples comparison by a long way. not an apples and apples comparison by a long way-— by a long way. standing here toniuht, by a long way. standing here tonight. do _ by a long way. standing here tonight, do you _ by a long way. standing here tonight, do you think- by a long way. standing here tonight, do you think boris i by a long way. standing here - tonight, do you think boris johnson tonight, do you think borisjohnson is in a stronger position than he was when you broke up for recess at the date the sue gray report came out? . , , the date the sue gray report came out? , ,, . ., ., out? there has been speculation whether he _ out? there has been speculation whether he would _ out? there has been speculation whether he would get _ out? there has been speculation whether he would get this far - out? there has been speculation | whether he would get this far but apple _ whether he would get this far but apple came out today putting a four— point apple came out today putting a four—point gap apple came out today putting a four— point gap between apple came out today putting a four—point gap between us and labour but he _ four—point gap between us and labour but he has _ four—point gap between us and labour but he has won a higher percentage of colleagues' votes than when he was elected. i think he would be the first to _ was elected. i think he would be the first to say— was elected. i think he would be the first to say he has a lot of work to do to— first to say he has a lot of work to do to restore the confidence of colleagues, as well as other people, that is— colleagues, as well as other people, that is hot— colleagues, as well as other people, that is not lost on anybody but i think— that is not lost on anybody but i think for— that is not lost on anybody but i think for me it seems to be a definitive _ think for me it seems to be a definitive moment and i would like to think— definitive moment and i would like to think we can now all take a deep breath— to think we can now all take a deep breath and — to think we can now all take a deep breath and get on with the job we were _ breath and get on with the job we were elected to do, and the idea of spending _ were elected to do, and the idea of spending the next three months, politicians talking to other politicians talking to other politicians about politicians, is a tedious — politicians about politicians, is a tedious prospect for voters so the fact we _ tedious prospect for voters so the fact we might be able to talk about the things— fact we might be able to talk about the things we are paid to talk about may be _ the things we are paid to talk about may be a _ the things we are paid to talk about may be a good thing.— may be a good thing. simon hart, thank ou may be a good thing. simon hart, thank you for— may be a good thing. simon hart, thank you for standing _ may be a good thing. simon hart, thank you for standing by - may be a good thing. simon hart, thank you for standing by to - may be a good thing. simon hart, thank you for standing by to talk | may be a good thing. simon hart, | thank you for standing by to talk to us, so christian, the prime minister has won, in that sense it's good news for him, he is now safe for another vote for a year and some rebels will be kicking themselves they didn't wait until after those by—elections because if they lose them he would be under more pressure but the fact that so many tory mps, but the fact that so many tory mp5, 148, have said they don't want boris johnson to be their leader, they don't have confidence in him, undoubtedly damages his number 10 operation. the question is what those rebels do next, do they get behind him or continue to cause trouble? ., , ., ., ., ., trouble? two things that matter on a niuht like trouble? two things that matter on a night like this — trouble? two things that matter on a night like this and _ trouble? two things that matter on a night like this and that _ trouble? two things that matter on a night like this and that is _ trouble? two things that matter on a night like this and that is the - night like this and that is the arithmetic and the politics. just to give you a night of how this comparison historically, from tim shipman, some figures, borisjohnson will have done as badly percentage wise asjohn major in 1995, worse than theresa may in 2018, she got 133 votes against and 147 votes, worse than thatcher versus heseltine in 1990 so historically speaking he is in a much worse position. let's bring in david lammy from the labour party and see if we can get some reaction from the opposition. could we get your reaction to the size of the vote, the size of the rebellion first of all?— first of all? i've been in parliament _ first of all? i've been in parliament 22 - first of all? i've been in parliament 22 years, i first of all? i've been in i parliament 22 years, this first of all? i've been in - parliament 22 years, this is a bad result for borisjohnson. he has effectively lost the confidence of his backbenchers and you name those prime ministers, theresa may, john major, margaret thatcher, none of them remained in office for long after losing that confidence and he has done worse than them. labour has been talking about this for some time, a rule breaking prime minister you cannot trust. we heard this from the public and now you see conservative mps not on the payroll, within the government, being crystal clear that they have no confidence in him. as night follows day over the coming weeks where he faces a parliamentary investigation, two by—elections and this huge cost of living crisis with rising inflation and concern across the public, or the public waking up and saying we can trust this guy when his own mps cannot? borisjohnson is now walking wounded and really at the conservative party should get rid of him. �* , ., ., conservative party should get rid of him. �*, ., ., ,, him. let's hear from sir keir starmer _ him. let's hear from sir keir starmer who _ him. let's hear from sir keir starmer who has _ him. let's hear from sir keir starmer who has been - him. let's hear from sir keir. starmer who has been speaking him. let's hear from sir keir- starmer who has been speaking in the last few— starmer who has been speaking in the last few minutes. this evening the conservative party had a decision to make, _ conservative party had a decision to make. to _ conservative party had a decision to make, to shout some backbone or two back boris— make, to shout some backbone or two back borisjohnson. the make, to shout some backbone or two back boris johnson.— back boris johnson. the british ublic back boris johnson. the british public are _ back boris johnson. the british public are fed _ back boris johnson. the british public are fed up _ back boris johnson. the british public are fed up with - back boris johnson. the british public are fed up with a - back boris johnson. the british public are fed up with a prime l public are fed up with a prime minister who promises big but never delivers, fed up with a prime minister who has presided over a culture of lies and lawbreaking at the heart of government, fed up with a prime minister who was utterly unfit for the great office he holds. conservative mps made their choice tonight. they have ignored the british public and hitched themselves and their party firmly borisjohnson and everything that he represents. the conservative party now believes that good government focused on improving lives is too much to ask. the conservative government now believes that breaking the law is no impediment to making the law. the conservative party now believes that the british public have no right to expect honest politicians. keir starmer s-ueakin honest politicians. keir starmer speaking in _ honest politicians. keir starmer speaking in the _ honest politicians. keir starmer speaking in the last _ honest politicians. keir starmer speaking in the last few - honest politicians. keir starmer i speaking in the last few minutes. there must have been a part of you but was hoping borisjohnson would win tonight ahead of these two by—elections in wakefield and tiverton? by-elections in wakefield and tiverton? ., ~' by-elections in wakefield and tiverton? ., ~ ,, by-elections in wakefield and tiverton? ., ~ , ,, tiverton? no, i think this is bigger than the traditional— tiverton? no, i think this is bigger than the traditional partisan - than the traditional partisan politics. with inflation running as high as it is, with cost of living as serious as it is across the country and the prospect over the next year looking very bleak indeed, we need a prime minister, we need someone the british people can trust. we will always have differences of opinion on policy but you'd need some in the british people can trust. that is why this was important, that is why for months people had been talking about conservative backbenchers doing their duty and now we have a prime minister fatally wounded. their duty and now we have a prime ministerfatally wounded. he their duty and now we have a prime minister fatally wounded. he limps on but he's desperately wounded. of course i wish they had got rid of him, they haven't taken that chance and for all the reasons keir starmer has said, he cannot be trusted and yet we know he cannot be trusted but he is still in office and this is damaging for us constitutionally, as a country and for the conservative party. a country and for the conservative pa . ., , , , a country and for the conservative party. david lammy, plenty of reaction coming _ party. david lammy, plenty of reaction coming in, _ party. david lammy, plenty of reaction coming in, thank- party. david lammy, plenty of reaction coming in, thank you | party. david lammy, plenty of. reaction coming in, thank you for that. we can cross live to central lobby in the houses of parliament and our political correspondent nick eardley. we arejust we are just trying to find out the mood in the conservative party tonight, a very busy central lobby with a lot of people giving analysis. i have roger gayle here, what is your analysis, how bad is this for the prime minister? izierr; this for the prime minister? very bad indeed- _ this for the prime minister? very bad indeed. i— this for the prime minister? very bad indeed. i expected _ this for the prime minister? very had indeed. i expected we might make three figures but i hadn't expected a third _ three figures but i hadn't expected a third more than that of the parliamentary party expressing no confidence in the prime minister. we shall get _ confidence in the prime minister. we shall get on — confidence in the prime minister. we shall get on and do the job we have to do— shall get on and do the job we have to do enacting conservative legislation in the interest of the country— legislation in the interest of the country but that is not the same as support— country but that is not the same as support for— country but that is not the same as support for the prime minister. what happens now? _ support for the prime minister. what happens now? the _ support for the prime minister. wrist happens now? the prime support for the prime minister. kwisgt happens now? the prime minister is safe from another road for a year. i would be surprised if this prime minister— would be surprised if this prime minister is still in downing street by the _ minister is still in downing street by the end of the autumn. there are by-etectiohs— by the end of the autumn. there are by—elections coming up, after the summer— by—elections coming up, after the summer there by—elections coming up, after the summerthere is by—elections coming up, after the summer there is the report of the privileges — summer there is the report of the privileges committee, there are other— privileges committee, there are other serious issues that have to be addressed _ other serious issues that have to be addressed by whoever is in number 10. addressed by whoever is in number 10 so _ addressed by whoever is in number 10. y ., ~ addressed by whoever is in number 10. _, ~ ~ , 10. so you think the prime minister will go. it's — 10. so you think the prime minister will go. it's just _ 10. so you think the prime minister will go, it'sjust a _ 10. so you think the prime minister will go, it'sjust a question - will go, it'sjust a question of when. i will go, it's 'ust a question of when. ~ ., , , ., will go, it's 'ust a question of when. ~ ., , ., ., when. i think that is the case and a messaue when. i think that is the case and a message that _ when. i think that is the case and a message that has _ when. i think that is the case and a message that has been _ when. i think that is the case and a message that has been sent - when. i think that is the case and a message that has been sent out i when. i think that is the case and a message that has been sent out by the conservative backbench tonight is much _ the conservative backbench tonight is much greater than i expected and very telling. is much greater than i expected and very telling-— is much greater than i expected and ve tellinu. ., , ., ., very telling. what is the mood among the other rebels _ very telling. what is the mood among the other rebels who _ very telling. what is the mood among the other rebels who voted _ very telling. what is the mood among the other rebels who voted against i very telling. what is the mood among the other rebels who voted against a l the other rebels who voted against a prime minister? are they not on bills and to bring him down? it’s bills and to bring him down? it's not about bringing him down, this is not about bringing him down, this is not an— not about bringing him down, this is not an orchestrated campaign. i said for a long _ not an orchestrated campaign. i said fora longtime what i believe and i shall— fora longtime what i believe and i shall carry— fora longtime what i believe and i shall carry on having to say that and that — shall carry on having to say that and that won't stop me and my colleagues from doing the job we were _ colleagues from doing the job we were elected to do and getting the legislation through that we need to -et legislation through that we need to get the _ legislation through that we need to get the right. the prime minister has to— get the right. the prime minister has to go— get the right. the prime minister has to go back to downing street and consider— has to go back to downing street and consider where he goes from here. sir roger— consider where he goes from here. sir roger gayle, thank you for talking to us. lots of people want your views tonight but that is the view of some of the rebels, that even though the prime minister has made it through tonight he will not survive until the end of the year and we have those by—elections at the end of this month, that could be another crisis for the pm and the privileges committee after the summer recess, it feels tonight that borisjohnson has got through this vote, he is safe for a year under the current rules but it doesn't feel over and that 148 rebellion is bigger than many of the rebels i spoke to this afternoon dodd and i think that will give some of his critics hope that this isn't over. we were talking to thejohnson loyalist simon hart and he said the prime minister had done better in this vote then he did in the run—off withjeremy hunt in 2019 but some people are saying that is not true, in 2019 he got 66% of the vote so he did worse but that is the point, people will try to spin there is one way or the other. if he has a majority of 80 in parliament and there were 148 who have no confidence in him, what does that mean for the running of government? you are right to pick up on that figure about the leadership election, it slipped me by end the furore. you got a hand from so roger gale about what will happen. he was clear that mps who don't like boris johnson will get on with the job, i won't try to block every vote or spend every five minutes trying to bring him down. there is a lot going on in this place and a lot of it is important to people's daily lives but when it comes to those contentious votes, things like overwriting the brexit deal, giving ministers the power to override the northern ireland protocol, a lot of tory mps who may have voted against the pm tonight or uncomfortable with that legislation and might now be emboldened to vote against it, to make his life harder and that is one of the big things that has happened tonight. borisjohnson now knows that 40% of his party in parliament don't want him to be the leader. that is a big deal and means right up that is a big deal and means right up until a general election, he will be looking over his shoulder wondering who he has on side. it’s a wondering who he has on side. it's a bi deal. wondering who he has on side. it's a big deal- we — wondering who he has on side. it's a big deal- we just _ wondering who he has on side. it's a big deal. we just saw— wondering who he has on side. it's a big deal. we just saw up _ wondering who he has on side. it's a big deal. we just saw up to boris johnson heading back to downing street, rather grim faced in the car which will presumably be on the front pages tomorrow. nick is being modest, i know he is extra sharp when he comes to the detail. let's bring injoe twyman and talk about the politicians in the country. joe has been looking at some of the numbers in the last few weeks. clearly things gathered pace over the weekend, there was pulling out of wakefield. how significant was that for some of the conservative red wall mps?— that for some of the conservative red wall mps? ~ ., , ,., red wall mps? with any polling there is a lane red wall mps? with any polling there is a large margin _ red wall mps? with any polling there is a large margin for— red wall mps? with any polling there is a large margin for error— red wall mps? with any polling there is a large margin for error in - red wall mps? with any polling there is a large margin for error in this - is a large margin for error in this far out— is a large margin for error in this far out from _ is a large margin for error in this far out from the polling date, it was indicate a broad story but not any kind _ was indicate a broad story but not any kind of— was indicate a broad story but not any kind of strong prediction necessarily. what probably did though— necessarily. what probably did though was focused the minds in the way that— though was focused the minds in the way that a _ though was focused the minds in the way that a series of polls have done not just _ way that a series of polls have done not just over the last few weeks but over the _ not just over the last few weeks but over the last few months. the number of poles that _ over the last few months. the number of poles that have shown that a large _ of poles that have shown that a large proportion of the public think the prime — large proportion of the public think the prime minister should it resign but also _ the prime minister should it resign but also perhaps more worryingly his own personal ratings, they refusal to recover— own personal ratings, they refusal to recover and the gap with the labour— to recover and the gap with the labour leader has not closed at all. so conservatives generally unable to close the _ so conservatives generally unable to close the gap on labour and not changing — close the gap on labour and not changing their position very much since _ changing their position very much since the — changing their position very much since the local elections despite the announcement of the cost of living _ the announcement of the cost of living measures that came out last week _ living measures that came out last week and — living measures that came out last week. and i think the cumulative effect _ week. and i think the cumulative effect of— week. and i think the cumulative effect of all of those has given all conservative mps, whether they are in the _ conservative mps, whether they are in the north— conservative mps, whether they are in the north of england or in other areas. _ in the north of england or in other areas. a _ in the north of england or in other areas. a reat— in the north of england or in other areas, a real question to answer, which _ areas, a real question to answer, which is — areas, a real question to answer, which is is — areas, a real question to answer, which is is borisjohnson the best person— which is is borisjohnson the best person available to them to win the next election. that's essentially what _ next election. that's essentially what the — next election. that's essentially what the leadership contest is about and only— what the leadership contest is about and only 211 people agreed that the answer— and only 211 people agreed that the answer was yes. to

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