of evidence, of wrongdoing. the white house is calling it an illegitimate and unjustified move from republicans. plus, hill harper is on the ballot in michigan. we will talk to the good doctor after about why he decided to run for the u.s. senate in this critical battleground state. i am symone sanders-townsend, and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ after a weeklong truce, the fighting has intensified again in the israel-hamas war. more than 700 people have been killed in the gaza strip, according to the hamas-run health ministry, since that truce with israel fell apart on friday. that israel defense forces or idf has shifted its military operations to southern gaza, in order civilians to evacuate. if you remember, just weeks earlier, israel urged gaza residents to evacuate to southern gaza from the north overnight the idf says it targeted weapons stores, command centers, and hamas naval assets. and the -- destroyed 500 tunnel shafts in civilian areas it says were used by hamas. as the war continues to escalate, vice president kamala harris and offensively terry lloyd austin emphasized the u.s. administration's support for israel, while urging it to follow international law and protect civilian life. >> we support israel's legitimate military objectives to eliminating the threat of hamas. as israel defends itself, it matters how. the united states is unequivocal, international humanitarian law must be respected. too many innocent palestinians have been killed. >> for the lesson is not that you can win in urban warfare by protecting civilians, the lesson is that you can only win in urban warfare by protecting civilians. you, see this kind of a fight, in the center of gravity is the civilian population. if you drive them into the arms of the enemy, you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat. the israeli government is also facing scrutiny for a recent new york times report, citing emaimes, and interviews, the report alleges that isbtained hamas's battle plans for the october 7th attack more than a year before that attack occurred. other reports say hamas's plan, quote, circulated widely among these really military and intelligence leaders, but experts determined and sack of that scale and ambition was beyond hamas capabilities, according to documents and officials. i should note nbc news has not yet seen the document, and it is unclear at this time whether its actually passed all the y up to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. this is what an idf spokesperson says in a statement. quote, the idf is currently focused on eliminating the threats when the terrorist organization hamas. questions of this kind will be looked into at a later stage. on meet the press, today my colleague kristen welker asked john kirby, the national security council strategic communications coordinator, whether the united states was aware of the document in the times report. take a listen. >> the intelligence community has indicated that they did not have access to this document. >> should they have, given how closely u.s. and israeli intelligence officials coordinate, are supposed to coordinate? >> intelligence is a mosaic. sometimes you can fashion things together and get a pretty good print. other times, there is pieces of the puzzle that are missing. >> as civilians in gaza scramble for safety while mourning their dead, and devastated israeli families of hamas held hostage's demand action, there are far more questions than answers in a war with no end in sight. joining me now on the ground in tel aviv, israel, is nbc news correspondent david noriega. david, welcome. what is the latest on the ground? >> reporter: symone, hi. and the idf is hitting many, many targets in southern gaza. the expectation is that this new phase in the military campaign is laying the groundwork, these airstrikes are laying the groundwork for a ground incursion, following more or less the same pattern we saw in the north. hamas authorities in the gaza strip say that in just the last 24 hours, more than 300 people have died. they say those are the ones that have been able to identify. many more, they say, are still trapped in the rubble. they say the majority of them are women and children. the idf says it's not targeting women and children, it's only targeting hamas militants and infrastructure. it blames the civilian casualties on hamas. either way, people on the ground in gaza describe a situation of almost catastrophic humanitarian -- and almost catastrophic humanitarian situation. -- you have to remember a lot of people in the south where these are happening, we're already displaced from the north. they were living in refugee camps in crowded conditions with very little access to clean water, food, shelter. the head of the world health organization just yesterday said that, actually today said that yesterday some of his personal visited a hospital in the south where they saw people treating civilians on the ground, screaming. the hospital was at three times capacity. this is a situation that was already bad and is getting worse, simone. >> and david, the united states has been putting pressure on israel to protect civilians. what has been the israeli governments response to that? i understand they know they are not intentionally targeting civilians, but no one can deny the fallout of these civilian casualties. >> right. israeli authorities have acknowledged that they are getting that pressure from the united states. u.s. authorities themselves, actually, have said the israelis have been receptive to this pressure. in that same interview with national spokesman john kirby that you played a clip from earlier, he said that the israelis understand what the americans are telling them. he even said that -- he says we've seen these rallies go in with, quote, less force. it's not clear to me, symone, if, given what kirby, said the u.s. is now satisfied with the kind of response it's receiving from israel. because based on the reports that we are hearing from people on the ground, it's not clear whether there has been a change to the way that israel is carrying on this military campaign. that is one of the main things we will be looking for in the days to come, to what extent is this u.s. pressure actually translating materially to a change in the way that israel is operating on the ground, particularly if there is a ground incursion. last thing i will say is the pressure from the u.s. is not only on protecting civilians. there are -- one of these main questions we've been talking about is this question of displacement, people being told to evacuate. in many cases, people who are already made to move several times. come lyricist or day said that under no circumstances will the united states permit the forced relocation of palestinians from gaza. >> nbc's david noriega live for us in tel aviv. thank you very much. it was nice to see you. even after the collapse of the temporary truce, loved ones and supporters of hostages held by hamas continue to gather in israel. you see it on your screen right now. this is as they did yesterday in tel aviv. they are demanding the government to do more to bring those hostages home. the future of the remaining hostages seems even more uncertain. joining me now is the president of the u.s. middle east project and former israeli peace negotiator daniel -- welcome to you, sir. i want to start with more of what the national security council's strategic communication coordinator john kirby had to say about the status of negotiations surrounding a temporary truce. i want to play this for you and we will discuss on the other side. >> there are no official negotiations going on right now. that's because of hamas. hamas failed to come up with yet another list of women and children that could be released. and we know they are holding additional women and children. not combatants, not female idf soldiers, but innocent civilians, women and children that they have and could put on a lesson turn that. and unfortunately, the negotiations have stopped. that said, what hasn't stopped is our own involvement trying to get those back on track. >> what's stuck out to me there is what no official negotiations underway, but we take that to mean there are potentially unofficial negotiations happening? >> i think there are channels all the time, symone. it is true that the israelis have withdrawn the mossad representatives in doha talking to the qataris. i think it would be really helpful for the american public if there were officials like john kirby who were more transparent and honest, both in terms of the nature of this military operation, but also what you heard from him there. because perhaps there were additional israelis being held in gaza who could've extended the pause another day, another two days. what we've actually moved into, if there were going to be serious negotiations is a new phase where there are new categories, different categories for those who we saw at least already will require a different kind of package, who does israel release in exchange for what? is it just for a temporary pause or is this about bringing this entire operation to an end? and those are the dynamics around which, if and when negotiations seriously resume, they will have to deal with those things. we're not going to have, i don't think, a similar formula to what we had during those seven days. >> and for folks at home watching us right now, daniel, i think it is important they understand the types of people, the hostages that were released by hamas in this initial truce, they were women, they were children. they were the elderly. there were no young men who would've been a fighting age, was not able to be released. there is an 18 year old we know that is currently held captive. but because he is 18, he could not be released. the negotiations are not happening, but if they do, those are the kind of conversations they will have to have. how do the parties get back to the table? is it president biden putting pressure on prime minister netanyahu? how does this jump start again? >> it's a really important question. as you have helped explain to us, so, the women, children unwell, those -- there may be people who additionally fall into that category. but that's essentially a category that hamas understood from the beginning we're ready to do the kind of deal we eventually saw. there is an israeli claim with only the israeli ground operation and the intensification of its military mission meant to that deal going through. everything that we know and has been reported suggests that was not the case. that deal was available. it took internal as well as some external pressure on netanyahu for that deal to be agreed. now what is left in terms of those being held in gaza? it is soldiers, soldiers who were captured, and it's, as you say, fighting age males, but also elderly men. the way this is being approached, i'm not justifying, and i'm just explaining it to your audience, these are either reservists who have served in the military. i think what needs to happen for a negotiation to be re-engaged with is two or three things. first of all, is there a formula? i believe there is a formula. i believe that qatari mediators have been very effective thus far. you have egypt, you have the u.s., and of course the israelis not negotiating directly with hamas, but the israeli and hamas sides are respectively talking to the media. is there a formula? i think we can take that box. not easy, but we can. what else you need? you need an israeli and a hamas decision. i think given the situation, the hamas decision is easier to assume will be there at the right price, of course. the israeli decision bumps up against the competing goals of what israel set itself out to do. what is increasingly clear is you can get the hostages out alive or you can continue what i would consider a non realize-able mission of destroying, eradicating hamas, but you can't have both. in order for israel to prioritize the release of the hostages and to end this military action, which is having appalling consequences to the civilians of gaza, you probably need two things, symone. you probably need internal pressure, and there is still remarkable coverage -- courage being shown by the families of those being, held i'm watching people on television making the case for why they should prioritize getting these rallies out. you need that internal pressure which helped us get over that hump for that -- and you need the external american pressure. we are not there yet. the americans -- the americans are saying there is pressure. we are not seeing america push to end this military mission yet. >> not yet, not publicly they say they're confessing them privately. all note for folks at home, every person in israel once they turn 18 it's mandatory to serve in the military. every young man or elderly man being held captive had to serve. daniel levy, thank you for breaking this out and making a claim for us on a tough subject. i appreciate your thoughts. >> thank you so much, symone. >> coming up, we'll take a turn and talk about the house, they could vote to launch an impeachment inquiry into president biden as early as this week. i know what you're thinking, can we have this conversation already? mike johnson says he thinks they have the votes now, democrats say they don't have any evidence, i say how bout we govern for a change. plus, liz cheney warns the united states is sleepwalking into dictatorship. we will dig into the dangers of reelecting donald trump with my political panel, next. but first richard lui is here with other top news stories. richard, so much happening in the world, what is going? on symone, when, afternoon will start wet -- shot down drones that attacked multiple commercial ships toda in the red sea. two defense officials tell nbc news that the u.s. has -- two drones deployed by a rebel group in yemen. one official says that the carney observed one ballistic missile fire at one of the ships. they say the ship responded to distress calls from the vessel. los angeles police say the suspect is in custody for the killings of three homeless men last week. in a separate killing, jared powell was already arrested in beverly hills on thursday. officials then say police were able to match his car to all the killings along with a handgun inside of. it some of the nation's biggest icons are front and center at the 46 admiral kennedy center honors. tonight's honorees are billy crystal, rene filly, barry gibbs, queen latifah, and dion warwick. symone sat down with yesterday ahead of the festivities. previous honoree, readout moreno will hold the ceremony, it airs on december 20. seventh more symone after this break. is break. blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. after advil. feeling better? 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[ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it's a pitch. get way more into what you're into house speaker mike johnson when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. says that republicans now have the votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry of president biden. the motion could come to the floor as early as this week. there's still questions about the substance of the inquiry. republican-led oversight committee has been investigating the president and s family for 11 months. remember they clai have documents that quote, she'll members of the biden family had established over 20 shell companies, that were set up during joe biden's time as vice president. those companies, the panel alleges, or part of an effort to cover up payments from foign adversaries. i don't see any evidence, the white house writing that said, despite receiving the significant volume of material, house repugnance -- wrongdoing by president biden. but plenty of evidence debunking their claims. which is frankly true, democratic congressman jami congressman, ranking member of the oversight committee said publicans were impeaching joe biden because they had no policy agenda saying, quote, i like to teach them of the constitution does not define impeachment as an opportunity to explain policy disagreements. impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors against the union. we're dealing with people who are literally constitutional idiots. i know that jamie raskin is a constitutional lawyer. we have some experts here, michael hardaway, has served on staff for hakeem jeffries, and dick durbin, and we amy tarkanian, former nevada republican party chair. michael, let's start with you to very quickly explain for the people as i was looking at this today i asked my team, what is the difference between what mike johnson is doing now and what speaker mccarthy did a couple weeks ago? a couple weeks ago mccarthy directed an impeachment inquiry and johnson is now saying they'll vote on one. make it make sense for me? >> it makes no sense. the truth of the matter is that this speaker seems to be on a witch hunt against president biden. for the first time he may have the votes for something when he didn't half for the latter cr. what they're saying here is that joe biden -- engaged in. which is having a family business and benefiting financially while in office, that's exactly what donald trump did, there's no evidence that joe biden did that. i think ultimately, this goes to the senate bill in the house you may have a situation where they me forward with an inquiry. >> amy, congressman comer has been spearheading the oversight committee and it hasn't necessarily gone well. i distinctly remember the hearing that they did were all the republican witnesses basically said, there was no there there for an impeachment. over thanksgiving, constituents were asking members to impeach the president according to comer. what is going on here, is this important to republican voters? >> i do believe it is to some. i'm gonna go ahead and welcome this, this was either open up the investigation to transparency and we will find that there is something there. or it should close it and and this story completely. i think the fact that we're moving forward with the vote allows the house to take the vote, let's see if comer does have something, if he does adult care if you're a republican or democrat, let's find out if there is nothing there, let's put it to bed and let's start to govern. >> amy, one quick follow-up, are you concerned this vote could endanger vulnerable house republicans. i'm thinking about my mother's congressman, don bacon, nebraska district to, i don't think don bacon wants to talk about a pace to? >> no, i don't think he does either. there's so many issues that are pressing. people are hurting financially, we have a mask going on a number of other countries that we are trying to assist. the list goes on and on and on. people aren't so worried about this as much as maybe making sure that there's food on the table, that they're able to go and see the doctor of their choice. once again, i welcome this, let's either move forward with whatever it is that representative comer has, and if there's nothing there let's put it to rest. >> michael, your former boss minority leader jeffries has called the probe a fishing expedition and conspiracy theater. the white house issued a memorandum that the bumped any allegations. what else should democrats be doing in this moment? >> it's interesting, mister jeffrey says that publicly any and i have discussed the fact that what -- is delivering something for the people and working with house republicans to get that done. obviously, prices are sky-high, we'd love to be working with republicans to address that issue and get stuff done. unfortunately, that doesn't happen, house republicans haven't had an agenda. they are focusing on mr. biden and impeachment because they have nothing to deliver as we head into the election. i think functionally, unfortunately, we don't see much done in the house but i can tell you house democrats are willing and interested in moving forward with something if house republicans are as well. >> let's talk about 2024 than. the front runner, donald trump, if you will for the republican primary race, he's ruffling feathers in general he ruffles feathers, he's been ruffling feathers that liz cheney is weighing in this morning, let's play this for you. >> he's told us what he will do, it's very easy to see the steps he will take. people who say, wow, if he's elected it's not that dangerous because we have all of these checks and balances. they don't fully understand the extent to which the republicans in congress today have been co-opted. one of the things we see happening today is sort of asleep walking into dictatorship in the united states. >> okay, sleepwalking into dictatorship. amy, liz cheney has a new book coming out, rachel maddow interviews her tomorrow about this book. do you think what she is saying is gonna break through with any, with any actual republicans. i'm thinking about folks that currently support former president trump, are they listening to what liz cheney has to say? list>> unfortunately no, i disae with her in the fact that we're walking into a dictatorship. however, i think her warning is fair as far as making sure if we were to elect him that we'd have someone who is going to focus on the issues rather than revenge. you have now a pace that is very devout, they are very angry, they believe they are also part of the victimhood if you will. are we able to change their minds, unfortunately, no, that's why you're sitting here in nevada where you have the misbehavior of donald trump, the anger of donald trump trickle down to the state parties and county parties, where they now think it's acceptable to bully, to push people out who question, and if you're not 100 percent on board with maga, the fact that we have a state mandate primary in the state party felt that they should take it upon themselves to hold a caucus two days later, there's not gonna be as much participation so they want to have control of the scenario. i think now nevada is a perfect example, you will have more reasonable, rational republicans that will participate in our primary. we're now looks like you'll have a winner to be nikki haley. >> amy, you are making a point that i alluded to yesterday. michael, i have a short time but i'll give you the last word to respond. a lot of people have made this solely about not all trump, this 2024 election, saying if they block trump from getting the nomination, if they nominate someone else, or if they nominate trump but joe biden beats them, this threat to democracy goes away. but what amy is describing is that the trumpism has seeped down into the tentacles of the republican party around this country. it's bigger than donald trump, is it not? >> you're absolutely right. it has festered itself throughout the country and throughout state parties around the country. as we look at this potential presidency for donald trump coming up, it's more, it's a 50,000 plus individuals who may want to hire to carry out this agenda. it's about the fact that the legislative branch is a rubberstamp for his agenda, it's about the judiciary branches also representing him in the supreme court. i personally do think we could be headed toward some variation of a dictatorship, if someone doesn't step in and say, we should do the right thing versus follow blindly for personal or political gain. >> michael hardaway, amy tarkanian, we need to have healthy strong political parties, at least two, right now we're not doing a good job. i appreciate your time. coming up next, folks, she is the most decorated u.s. track and field athlete in olympic history, but now alison felix is talking about another topic very close to her heart, pregnancy. and why it's too often a death sentence for black women. the message to the medical community, next. later in the spotlight, tony award winner patina miller is here, we talk to her about her amazing career and much, much more, stick around. ore, stick around. puffs has 50% more lotion and brings soothing relief. don't get burned by winter nose. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. the subway series? 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(vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. we are weeks away from the start of a presidential election year. the stakes, folks, could not be higher, especially when it comes to united states senate, democrats currently have the two seat majority in the chamber, 34 senate seats up for grabs in 2024. one of those seats in michigan, senator debbie stabenow announced he will be passing the torch to the next generation -- leans democratic. but anything can happen. five democrats have dumped into the race including congresswoman elissa stop can an actor hill harper, who's reportedly leaving his role on abc's the good doctor to focus on his senate campaign. hill harper joins me now. hill, it's great to see you my friend, i want to start by asking why, why all this, why now, what convinced you? >> i think as you well know, as your previous guest alluded to, we're in a critical moment in the country, a critical moment on hypocrisy. fundamentally, i'm running to disempower the lobby and empower the people. symone, one thing that is a shocking statistic if i'm elected to the u.s. senate ability only actor union member in that body, all fight for working people, every day people, and not for the wealthy few. money has taken over the political system and i'm stepping in to fight for people. >> without mentioning any of your opponents names, tell us why you are the best person to represent michigan in the united states senate? >> i think i've traveled around michigan, there are so many people, people of very frustrated, they're angry with the status quo. obviously, i'm not a politician and i am proud of that, what i want to do is actually change things for the better. i'm not interested in doing what the status quo does, they want to vote for change, we've seen it happen with fetterman and in pennsylvania. folks actually want things to change, they feel like collecting the same type of politician career folks over, and over, isn't working. why my best for the job? it's my unique set of experiences leading up to this. like i said, i'd be the only union member, one of the only members that has a school age child, my son is in second grade, i'd be the only small business owners, i'd be the first time in 57 years, michigan does not have a black democratic elected person, member of congress. and that matters, representation matters, not just a black folks there so many -- to across the state that are ashamed, upset by that fact. and they want to see more diversity, more diverse representation. >> michigan has been on the minds of a lot of folks for a number of different reasons. and especially as we talk about the war that is currently being waged between hamas and israel. michigan has a very large arab american population, one of the largest city of arab americans in this country is in dearborn, michigan. after the terrorist captain october 7th, tensions in our country have been high, you've been out on the campaign trail, antisemitic, anti-arab, islamophobia incidences have been on the rise. what are you hearing, what do you tell your potential constituents, folks in dearborn who want to vote for you, people across the state of michigan was about this war? >> i wasn't dearborn twice this past week, i was at the local 600 yesterday, and went into a barbershop that's right across the street talking to folks, listening. i think the most important thing that they know and realizes that i'm the only candidate in the race that's called for humanitarian cease-fire. i think they respect that stance and they respect that fact. and moreover, they understand that i believe that piece, i say it all the time, there is no good war, there's no bad piece, i believe in saving civilian lives, and i believe in carrying for children that can't get out of harm's way on their own. i will fight for that, they know, they know that. i think that that constituency group is 71% of michigan democrats are in favor of cease-fire. it's not like an -- in dearborn actually won. most democrats in the state of michigan won that. >> hill harper, i'm a cracks and a candidate in michigan, thank you very much, all bring you back to talk, we're doing this series all throughout and i'm interested in how this shapes out in michigan. >> you do a great job symone, thank you for having me. coming up next, folks, it's time for the symone spotlight i sit down with patina miller, you might know her from broadway or from the movies, or most recently from the hit tv series raising kanan, we talk about the new season next. don't you go away. don't you go away. and ipad and apple watch se - all on us. only on verizon. the chase ink business premier card is made for sam who makes, everyday products, designed smarter. genius! like 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more, so sam can make smart ideas, a brilliant reality! chase for business. make more of what's yours. at bombas, we're obsessed with comfort. quality. movement. because your basic things should be your best things. one purchased equals one donated. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. ♪♪ nothing like a real tree. ♪♪ oh, fudge!!! oh, fudge!!! ♪♪ the holidays are joy, except for all the snow, slush, salt, and pine needle catastrophes... weathertech's cargoliners and floorliners are laser-measured to perfectly protect the front, back, and even up the sides. order the perfect holiday gift today at weathertech.com and don't forget weathertech gift cards. woman: who's that, who is that? 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>> i'm not saying we're good, you and we have a lot to fix. i want you to know that i'm through with all this other [bleep] >> he only reason i went to the hospital was [bleep] my father put together about crime. >> and when she's not on your television screen, patina miller it's often on broadway, here is a clip of the to a t singer singing for the broadway revival into the woods, miller played another anti-hero, the witch. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a star, okay, i recently sat down with patina to discuss your career, and what drew her to the character on raising kanan. here is our conversation. >> okay, you mentioned the character is her strains, her being this really powerful woman playing in a man's world. i think what drew me to the character is the power, how powerful, not power hungry but she is a matriarch of her family, she has a big responsibility, she has a big dream, and she's a mother, these are things that i can identify with and i bring myself, i try to bring myself to every role i do, but this one was so different because it's set in a world, the 90s outside of jamaica, queens, and that brings its own thing. i was interested in what makes a person, how they move, how they make raquel three dimensional. i wanted to make or human, raw, real, i'm excited that we have the opportunity to have a third season and i can continue to pull out all these different things. >> all these threads. it's been renewed, often four season for already, you're about to start filming, markel is a new york lady are real jamaica, queens, check your from south carolina, as we were getting ready today for this i was telling my makeup artists who's from new york, you know she's from south carolina, and she said she does a good. how is it putting on the jamaica queens of it all? >> i gotta tell you it's one of the real last layers of a character for me, i lie, it's the first players finding a voice, right? it's such a specific voice, a specific dialect, not just where you grow up, it's very specific about that time, being in southside jamaica, queens, i wanted to make her voice sound out, the different, sound like something you've never heard and really just do it. a a musical person, obviously, i listen to a lot of different things, i've been in new york city a long, long time, more than i've been in south carolina. i feel like a new yorker. it was easy for me to step into that. >> what is the biggest revelation and season three that you can tell us that without giving the plot away? >> they're here today. i think the biggest take away from this season that i will not spoil, the repercussions of what happened in season two, we're dealing with that, it's happening in realtime. >> the secrets exposed. >> the secrets are out. now we need to deal with that, right, and the weight of it. for -- she's held on for so long came -- there is no more she cannot pivot the way that she competed last season. now she needs to deal with that and that relationship is fractured, he doesn't want to be around her anymore, like the mother she issues and take no for an answer. the season is about her trying to get her son back. >> we'll be watching, you talked about you've been in new york for a long time. you have lit up the broadway stage. the people need to go on the internet, they have insisted they need to see it. you've played some of broadway's most recognizable characters, the leading player in memphis, the witch and into the woods, sarah in ragtime, what's the dream character on broadway that you have not had the opportunity to play but that you love to play? >> i also played a lauriston -- >> yes you did. >> i've been very lucky to take on roles that are very different, i've done comedy, i've done serious, i've done a lot of, i'm so blessed. and now this next stage of what i want to do, i'm gonna do a play. >> you want to do a play. >> a serious play. i want to do shakespeare, i'm classically trained as well and i went to a phenomenal college and i love being able to stretch myself, you know, do things, the unexpected and there is so many things i'd like to do, i love shakespeare, i love acting in all forms. this next stage i would love to do something completely different. >> when you have that tony, you have a grammy, we need to work on getting you an oscar. you talk about shakespeare, there are some shakespearean themes within this raising kanan franchise, there are arcs, leaves, turns, i don't think people are tuning into starz, thinking i'm gonna get a bit of shakespeare, a bit of drama. >> it's very the. it's all about the mother son relationships between family, it's very king lear. there are so many different layers to these characters. what i love is we're taking it, setting the stage in southside jamaica, queens, it's a family drama, it's a family who, yes, there are crime family but they're dealing with issues that every family goes through. and you get to watch them. all the consequences, all the secrets of this world, choosing to be in a world like this, and how it makes you act, how the family bonds will break, i'll come back together, and at the end of the day it's about love, it's about family, you know, that's what i love the most about it. >> that's what people love, they get behind that. raising kanan season three out now, go to nip and i'll watch season one, episode one tonight i cannot wait. patina miller, thank you so much. love that,, stankey for watching symone on this sunday i'm symone sanders-townsend, if you want more the show please find us on instagram the site formally known as twitter, don't go anywhere because politicsnation with the great reverend al sharpton is coming up after a short break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ -missing punches? 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