this'll be good. grilled goat with cabrit, a traditional goat stew on the side. now we're talking. >> christian: they roast it and then they put some sauce on it. >> anthony: it's delicious. >> christian: as you can see, people don't eat meat. meat is quite expensive. it's almost $2, which is -- >> anthony: which is a lot. yeah, it's more than most people make in a day or even two days. what are the first things you buy, if you're very, very, very poor? >> christian: very poor, soap. >> anthony: soap? >> christian: yeah, because you have to look a bit clean. >> anthony: so soap first? soap? >> christian: first soap. but in between as congolese, you've got to think of dressing, looking smart, clothes. all these congolese you can see -- >> anthony: right. >> christian: if you give them $10, they will think of at least buying soap or food and keep maybe $1 to buy a shirt. >> anthony: so that's called pride. >> christian: yeah. and there is hope. >> anthony: you can plan for tomorrow. >> christian: for tomorrow.