And so i think once we can really fundamentally get back to those, those principles ac360 starts now harsh words on both sides of tens presidential campaign where violence or the threat of it has already come to pass. The question is, is one side protesting too much about alleged incitement while practicing incitement themselves were keeping them honest. Also, tonight, cnn's john king he has been traveling all over the map to battleground states tonight, nevada or perceptions about the economy could be pushing the state closer to trump. And later, an extraordinary coordinated attack in lebanon against hezbollah operatives. Hundreds of pagers secretly filled with explosives, detonated remotely and simultaneously. We'll tell you who's behind it and how they did it. Good evening. Thanks for joining us following dozens of bomb threats over the last several days. Schools began today in springfield, ohio, complete with state troopers surveillance cameras and bomb sniffing dogs. Those threats began after last week's presidential debate. And the former president smear of the city's haitian immigrant community they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there that happened he said that a week ago tonight he and his running mate, j. D. Vance, who also happens to be the junior senator from ohio, has been spreading stories without evidence about haitians in springfield and not just that particular falsehood about dogs and cats ever since. Well, today, ohio's republican governor visited an elementary school along with the state police therapy dog named hope was there to help students feel better as of tonight, there's no evidence of a direct link between the bomb threats and what trump and vance have been saying. However, there's strong correlation between their specific words about specific people in a specific place. And the threats that follow it. And again, these were stories advanced and trump created without themselves presenting any evidence smears being leveled at the height of attends presidential campaign in a deeply divided country, which has now seen two attempts on one candidates life. It, given all that, that candidate and his running mate inbetween inflammatory and false claims about springfield are also blaming their opponents rhetoric what do you see your floated getting shot or having attempted assassination? it does. I think the eldest son the lab, to really see it, do what it can do. I will do my part well, there's a certain irony there shortly before he said that this afternoon, he was again repeating the stories about haitians in springfield specifically that they were in his words, dropped on the city when he knows that most or their lawfully with documents doing jobs for employers who want them there. Senator vance today also said this the sentiment now something of a gop talking point tell kamala harris, tell joe biden, tell all of her surrogates who were saying things like donald trump needs to be eliminated. They need to cut that crap out. Are they gonna get somebody hurt in? can talk about his policies. You can take on any actions you dislike about him. But no, i do think that needs to stop plus, the man who we love luck had was on his side yet again was motivated to stop trump because he's responding to the call that this man is going to destroy democracy now, keeping them honest, neither vice president harris nor governor walz have called for the elimination of donald trump, though they certainly have portrayed great him as a threat to democracy. New york congressman daniel goldman did use the word eliminated than apologize for it last fall during an interview shortly after which he tweeted yesterday on tv. I'm mistakenly used the wrong word to express the importance for america that donald trump doesn't become president again, he went on to say, well, he must be defeated. I certainly wish no harm to him and do not condone and political violence. Now, the former president is no stranger to extreme rhetoric. Of course, and he's made no apologies for it. In fact, he's kind of made it his trademark we're a failing nation and it happened threeandahalf years ago. And what, what's going on here? you're going to end up in world war iii. We are a nation in decline we a failing nation we're failing nation and a lot of ways we are indeed a nation in decline. Our country's going to hell and we're not going to have a country left if we don't get four more years, if we don't win on november 5, i think our country is going to cease to exist. There absolutely destroying our country, but they're ruining our the country. And i don't think she can possibly win if she does, our country has finished, she would destroy our country. We will not have a country any longer. Well, that are vance has also been blasting democrats who have called down trump fascist look, we can disagree with one another. We can debate one another, but we cannot tell the american people that one candidate is a fascist. And if he's elected, it is going to be the end of american democracy. Now that statement is pretty remarkable because he knows and anyone who listens to donald trump knows that he calls kamala harris and democrats and others fascists, all the time it's on videotape fascist, fascist fascist, farleft fascists. These are young, smart people that happened to be fascist fascist. His fascist fascist movement that wants to throw you in jail. Fascist. This is fascist fascist, the fascist, he is surrounded by fascists, the corrupt and fascist regime. The foreign president is in flint, michigan tonight for town hall with arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders is his first event since the apparent attempt on his life two days ago, cnn political analyst maggie haberman starts its off. She's senior political correspondent at the new york times i mean, the thing that has cheney event saying the fascist thing that just seems such an obvious thing that trump says you would think he knows that you think you would coordinate at least his statements with the trump campaign a little. I don't think the trump campaign is unhappy at all with what j. D. Vance is saying. I think that we have seen for a long time then when trump is called something, he tends to say it back to whoever has set a to him. And i think that the trump campaign is perfectly happy with the role the jd vance's playing as an attack dog if they were not, he would not continue doing it. And there's now been days of talking about this and unfounded unproven claim that j. D. Vance has been discussing about haitian immigrants and pets, and that gets to a topic of immigration, which is what they want to be talking about when it comes to rhetoric related to these two attempts, won an apparent attempt it has nation attempt according the fbi, the other the president, former president was shot at i think that gets to a different area. I don't i do think that we are talking about something specific. I don't think donald trump is seeking to have people shoot at him. I really don't, but i do think that neither side at this point point is going to stop saying things about the other end. It has become useful for the trump campaign to say when you hear how he is speaking now, after this, this breonna second attempt on his life, i mean, does it how does he seem to you he seems like somebody who is trying to project complete strength and not being concerned about it at all. It was very clear after butler where he was shot at, there were no shots fired in this case by the alleged potential gunmen or the person who is alleged to have had a gun in the case? it's a butler. He was shot at. He went to the ground is here was waiting. Somebody was killed. Right on stage with him. And so it's a fundamentally different thing. He was clearly processing something as much as he would never admit that right now, he seems to be just trying to project somebody who can live through anything. I don't think his campaign feels especially solid right now. Securitywise yeah, i wanted to ask you about your latest reporting about the former president's conversation with the acting head of the secret service, jonathan swan and kate kelly and i reported earlier today that trump had a meeting with the acting head of the secret service yesterday. Of course, the head of the secret service would have been there before, was abruptly resigned, essentially pushed out amid the fallout from what happened in butler, pennsylvania at that rally but this meeting was basically the former president raising questions about whether he can continue to play golf and the acting head of the secret service said that it would require additional resources in order to keep him safe. And the reality is that lots of presidents have golf, but trump owns his own golf courses, which is not something we have seen with past presidents who have engaged in this sport. This particular stop that he made on sunday was an otr stop. It was not a longplanned stop. So i think that changes what the security looks like, but there's clearly a dilemma for the secret service of guarding somebody. A former president. He's not bill clinton, he's not barack obama. He's just in on a different level in terms of threats and he's the republican nominee and they haven't quite gotten to how they can do this. Resources wise. Or meg, i want to bring in also seen him political commentator, alyssa farah griffin matt mowers, who's like alyssa served in the trump administration. Also, cnn political commentator and democratic strategist, maria cardona alyssa, what do you make about this argument of words over rhetoric well, listen first and foremost, what happened was terrible and thank god that it wasn't worse secret service acted quickly and there's obviously much it's more that needs to come that this is the second attack attempt on a former president in such a short period of time, but listen, it's a very strange political moment. I think the trump campaign has kind of coalesced around the idea that this may be an opportunity to push back on what has been an effective attack line, which is democrats and those of us who are critical of trump raising that he may be a threat to democracy. What i would argue is this is there are legitimate policy critiques you can make of a politician that are not inflammatory rhetoric. They're not calling for violence against that person. We saw january 6. We saw efforts and attempts to overturn an election. It is legitimate political discourse to say that now what i would say as somebody who lived through january 6, where my former boss, mike pence was in harm's way because of incitement and violent rhetoric that drove a mob. There. That's a much more clear cut case of what you can say, what has been said leading to an outcome and something like this where we just need to get our arms around our political discourse. And what i'll say is listen, donald trump himself as one of the biggest contributors to just where we are politically in this heightened rhetoric, he needs to hold himself responsible, but i also think folks on the left do as well. There's plenty plenty of cases of activists, comedians, and left us that have said things that are dangerous, but they're not running to be leader of the free world. He is real and we also vance today saying that biden harris's comments will quote, get somebody hurt. He also suggested democratic led to the death of the man who was killed during the first assassination attempt against trump in pennsylvania. What's your perspective my perspective, anderson, is that there is no bothsidesing at here and look, there's no question that the rhetoric that we use around elections, we have to be careful in using that rhetoric, but alyssa is right. There is proof that donald trump has tried to overturn a fair and free election. There is proof that he has said that he wants to be a dictator on day one, there is proof that if the election, if he does not win in november amber, that he has already said that it's going to be rigged and we know from past words that that has incited the mob that happened on january 6 so those are threatening words and threatening actions to our democracy. That is a fact now, let's remember this is not the first time that j. D. Vance and donald trump our using insightful kind of rhetoric. And let's be very clear what they are saying about springfield puts a target on the backs of a vulnerable community. Let's remember the el paso shooter anderson, that man went to el paso looking to murder latinos and that's exactly what he did, why he said in his manifesto he was inspired by the rhetoric that donald trump used because of a latino hispanic invasion. So their words has all, have already spread, not just spread lies, but they have caused death and violence. That's something that we absolutely need to and want to when we can't use that anymore. Okay. But they refused to take any kind of responsibility for it. Matt, how do you see it i mean, look i look at this from a few different angles. One on a personal level you know, if you're under attack, if you're being shot at, you might be angry at the people who you believe who are inciting some of the activity committee against here. But i think it's important and i've got a lot of respect for maria, but i wholeheartedly disagree. We can't start holding individual actors accountable, holding other people accountable for individual actions were not going out there and saying bernie sanders is the reason why that one guy walked onto a baseball field and shot at steve scalise and number of members of congress as much i'm just saying that the deranged individual on sunday was showing up at a golf course necessarily because of the language coming out of kamala harris. Now, there is a need to cool down the rhetoric across the board. I think that's important, but if we're going to say that and we should also back it up, including potentially on this air, i will say polling politically speaking, and taking the politics of this, which i hate to even say, but we are 48 days or so away from a campaign. The reason you're seeing donald trump and j. D. Vance speak about this. Is not even speaking to their base, but channelling the anger of their base and if you go back to 2015, 2016, you have millions of voters who feel like they have actually been under attack verbally on network air, usually a different network every single night because of who they support and what they believe when they are told that should they support donald trump, they are a threat to democracy that's the type of stuff we have to stop. It's one thing, also attack and individual candidate metaphorically speaking, it's very different. Start attacking their supporters as well. And we have seen that it's among the reason you're seeing the outrage from the political base of donald trump, as much as anyone else in the last 48 hours, we're going to take a quick break. Maggie haberman, thanks for being with us. Coming up next. We'll be joined by but the journalists who did the first interview with donald trump after the attempt on his life and pennsylvania. And later john king in battleground state nevada, where the economy is front and center in people's minds. Part of his all over the map election year series. We'll be right back quayle has cao reaction to the birth oneonone episode was overwhelming. The most emotional scene was the decision murphy made to not get an abortion. The vice president reacted as if it was a threat. The existence of america idea that this fictional character played any role in politics is bananas, tv on the edge? moments that shaped our culture premieres sunday at nine on cnn. 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She could not have been nicer but the fact is the fact is we have to have people that are respected by the opponents is a, by the other side, by other countries the foreign president moments go in michigan joining the panel is salena zito, national political reporter for the washington examiner, who attended his rally in butler, pennsylvania and spoke with him shortly after the attempt on his life selina good to have you on the program. The former president told you in july that he'd rewritten his convention speech in light of the attempted assassination that day a to focus excuse me, the day before to focus on unity. And i'm quoting from your piece now he said, this is a chance to bring the whole country, even the whole world together. This speech will be a lot different, a lot different than it would have been two days ago. Obviously, that idea didn't last particularly long on the campaign trail, certainly after, after the convention. Did it surprise you that that it didn't you experience a shooting, you know, i mean, i wasn't directly shot at i was a few feet away from him. I think that changes you and i think that was his intent. As i told as i said on your show the next day or that night, can't even remember when i talked to you he you could tell that that that was very earnest. That was something important for him to say. And to convey and american politics, whether we like it or not, has always been and i hate the term, especially what's what we're going through, but it's been a blood board, mostly a volley volleying of words mostly not nice and that's just the way we have conducted politics since john adams and thomas jefferson had all horrible election. I think it was 18 o2 and i think he really wanted to do that, but i also got the sense in talking to him several times that day they also wanted to move past it. You wanted to cut it seems as though we wanted to compartmentalize it and move past it you know, matt, in addition to apparently rewriting some of his speech, the foreign president also posted the day after the first attempted assassination, saying in this moment it is more important than ever that we stand united and show our true character as americans he obviously did start to blame democrats referring to him as a threat to democracy for the attack in the weeks since the convention, well, before what happened on sunday? why do you think that didn't laugh or long i think it's a few different things. One, muscle memory is hard to forget and you know, donald trump has been now in the political amphitheater, so to speak, for the better part of eight years, he's conducted his campaign the way he has. It has been tough and aggressive, both volleys he's thrown the other way and volleys he certainly has received. And so i think that is a piece of it. And to salinas point as well. It's not something that donald trump really feels comfortable dwelling on. He has always been one of the people who's out there trying to show a sign of strength, trying to show that nothing can stop him from trying to achieve a goal it's something that was developed in him from a young age, certainly from his dad's, certainly from becoming a businessman in the tough real estate market in new york. And that's just something that's not easy to forget. And so it's much more comfortable for him to kind of get back suit up, go into the next day of a political campaign. And the way they he's used to doing it, then tried to keep that kind of more more reflexive selfreflexive, and softer side necessarily on the campaign i mean, it is interesting. I mean, i don't think it's surprising to you that he goes back to what he is even tonight when he was sort of saying nice things about but biden inherits. You could hear people in the audience sort of a couple of people saying heckling and stuff his brand, that's not what people, his hard base want to hear. That was honestly that clip was the best encapsulation of it because donald trump built his brand in politics as being the fighter and being this person can you kind of stokes up. His base, gets them excited. Does these big rally speeches, and they want to hear the greatest hits. So i totally, i've read salinas reporting at the time it was spot on at the time, but then he goes back to this part of his brain that wants to play to the audience that he's in front of. Because we remember that convention speech that started unifying. But as it went on over 90 minutes at went back to the greatest hits of donald trump in my personal experience working for him. He's somebody who he's a 78yearold man. He's not going to fundamentally are foundationally change. I was bullish after the first horrible attempt on his life. It wasn't going to fundamentally change him or the way he conducted politics. I don't think that's different now, i hope i would hope that it would make him more unifying. I would hope hope it would make them more cautious about his words, but i don't expect we're going to see that do you think just politically this second attempt, does it make a difference in the campaign in terms of in any way i don't anderson. Here's here's why. Because i agree with the panel that all of this is going to continue to lead donald trump. And that was actually something very nice that he said about the vice president. And we're that he could continue and keep that up, but he can't he's going to continue to divide us. He's going to continue to use fear to fuel the hatred. And what is so jaw dropping and headscratching to me, anderson, is that that is not a winning strategy because he has his base. He doesn't need to continue to rile up his base unless he thinks that by turning the mount is how he wins. But what we've seen from numbers and what we saw from 2016. And then in 2020, he needs independents and in 2016, i think you saw independence vote for him because they perhaps didn't think that he was going to be as bad as everyone thought or as bad as even he said he was going to be visavis his words. And we saw that he was one of the things that i think vice president harris is doing really smartly is kind of urging people to think about what he is saying. Think about what he's doing. And that we need to turn the page that were exhausted, that we don't need the chaos anymore, that i think is working because that is what has resonated sitting with independent voters, maria selina, matt, alyssa farah griffin. Thank you so much. Appreciate it coming up more on what voters are talking about. Now, look at the tight race in nevada and the issue which is number one in voters eyes, john king joining us for the latest installment of his all over the map series. 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Com let's go new thursday's attack on tbs, set your dvr now critical to both presidential campaigns is the state of nevada, which the foreign president narrowly lost in both his previous elections, the latest poll there was released almost two weeks ago from the times of london yougov and say 24 it shows vice president harris at 49 to 46%, that lead is within the poll's margin of error. So there's really no clear leader mirroring the tight was that previous polls have found john king recently returned there as part of his all over the map series examining the race from the point of view of critical voting blocs in battleground states and what he found were voters focused on one main issue, the economy. Take a look why that's not afternoon drive time in vegas the gelato at his dream job. Mixing the music. What's morning, mexico? i became a citizen during obama's presidency, the main goal for me was to ball, to participate in the elections and being biggest for 14 years now, love to ceedee law of the state yes, the 98. 1 was launched in the middle of the covid pandemic. Right? gelato and his close friend raphael cros junior. That's a risk we're crazy maniac they're a little startup is now number two in the las vegas market. They're hispanic audience critical in deciding who wins battleground nevada, where onethird of the population last time i checked it's like 23% of voter registrations, its power, its power donald trump narrowly lost nevada in both 2016 and 2020. But this time, several said right, a lot though, you see a big shift, i see people on social media, hispanics sharene that post that i'm not with her. I'm like, wow, a lot of people are calling me are in calling us and latinos in talking about voting for trump. So where does that come from? is that they think he'll make the economy better yeah, that's exactly what it is. As exactly which all that covid shut vegas down. Nevada had the highest pandemic unemployment rate the jobs are back and it's easy to find a 4 $4,000,000 home and the hills, the rents are up, starter homes scarce, and real estate agents or less, sanchez hopes interest rates dropped soon to help working families, i. S. I. S. Are extremely high, the highest they've ever been, the affordability is not there for a lot of people sanchez, as a reagan republican, she won't vote for trump, finds his tone about immigrants offensive and many of his policies, anything but conservative. I don't want the government in my business that much so it's incredible to see how the republican party is meddling in all of our business? yes. Sanchez says she has a lot of friends backing trump, but she sees more excitement for harris. She's going to win about it. Definitely what he said hispanics have made a difference in a lot of elections and i can see it right now. Thank you very much. Muslims are just a tiny slice of nevada's population. But in a battleground where every vote matters zina haji is a problem for harris. Why would you keep voting for a group of people that promise no more bombs? no more pain. Peace in the middle east. She's a democrat, 21 with harris on just about every issue, but a proud muslim daughter of moroccan immigrants, mad her family's tax dollars helped by the israeli bombs dropping on gaza if nothing changes, she's thinking third party or just skipping the presidential race, we just need to see this season we are tired we are very, very tired and we don't know what to do with our votes right now. Antonio munoz was undecided when we first met last december, on happy with the prospect of a biden trump rematch. Now leaning harris, but he needs specifics we need a different plan to get over the hump, which is inflation that has caused severe damage to a lot of businesses. She needs to be more direct. Munoz owns the 9/11 taco bar the rib eye is the best seller his optimism is contagious, but a scorching summer hurt the catering business critical. The munoz success. We had over 30 days of 110 degrees. So we had a lot of cancellation because people didn't want to be outside. It's starting to pick up again but it does affect business when people don't know who they're gonna vote for or where the nation is going towards really yes, it does because people are afraid the bottom spend, you know, they don't know what to expect when it comes around to a new administration, munoz to seize more latino support for trump this time, i have friends that were democrats that have turned the page and they feel that the country i'm going in the right direction. But he says harris is more competitive than biden was because of her energy. And her story. He came up with immigrant parents, which to me it's amazing for someone like that, a common be able to be president who knows is a veteran, former police officer active in the community trust. His instincts because this is a battleground and you cannot forget about nevada and they need to be out here with a direct message and talking to the voters out here. I really think it's 50, 50 right now. It's tight. Almost time to choose in a battleground where change is a constant now, wanted the latino vote look like in nevada in 2016 and 2020. It's fantastic when you look at it. Interesting, anderson, let's just pull it up and look our closest state was there's 2020 biden wins by 33,000 votes and change right? statewide 33,000. 2016, hillary clinton wins by 27,000 and change. But what was the difference? let's look at the latino vote and you come through to pull it off. Forgive me for turning my back. I just want to stretch this out so it's a little bit larger. Trump gets 29%, clinton 60 in 2016, in 2020 hey, biden gets 61, so it's about a constant there. Trump went up to 35, the third party candidates said a little bit to do about that. They didn't get much support. They did in 2016, they did not in 2020, but that's a bit of an increase now. And again, when you're on the ground, there, a lot of those latinos we talked to said they think trump's number is actually higher than that right now, although they do think harris has a chance, say biden, they said, especially after that first debate, it was going to be over we're in nevada when you're on the ground there, you feel how competitive is and you feel the debate among the latino residents who of course are just there about a third of the vote just slightly less than a third of the voting population absolutely critical how bad did unemployment get during covid in nevada? so let me just show you this because this is i think the best way to look at it. We all remember how bad it was for the country, right? well, this top line, the darker line is nevada at the peak in april 2020, the national unemployment rate was just shy of 15% it was twice that, twice that in nevada, it was just shy of 31%. It was 30. 6%. So as you see, it dropped steadily, and most of the jobs are back. It's still it's always been since covid but it has always been a little bit above the national average as it came back down. So it's still a little bit higher now by the numbers, by the statistics, the jobs are back, but rents are going up. Starter homes are hard to find and it's a body routes that 30% anderson is just a body bruce and so people even those who were doing well, they're just afraid to trust it because that was so bad, which is why i think harris does have a chance they remember trump. They know trump, they know what he would do. A lot of them think he would be better on the economy if she can answer that question and get narrower that she has a chance. But that's their number one issue. 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Cnn has learned the hundreds of pages, perhaps thousands, we don't have an exact number that exploded in an apparently coordinated attack against members of hezbollah in lebanon. Today was the reason both have a joint operation between israel's intelligence service, the mossad, and the israeli military the new york times tonight also has new reporting. Unnamed american and other officials tell the times that israel carried out the attack, quote, by hiding explosive material within a new batch of taiwanese made pagers imported into lebanon some unquote some of the officials said that the pagers were tampered with before they reach lebanon and his little as one to two ounces of explosive material was implanted along with a switch that could be detonated remotely. The times also reports that the devices were programmed to beat for several seconds before exploding now, these are photos of damage pedro cnn has discovered online. We can geo locate the images, but they were published today. They all appear to be from the same page or manufacturer are mentioned in mentioned in the times reporting. And at least one appears to be the same model as well. Leaders of hezbollah have vowed retribution today and we warn you the video of the explosions you're about to see is graphic in this one, a man can be seen in a supermarket in the lower left, you see them collapse on the on the ground. The explosion was near his waist at knocked him down. His bag is torn to shreds. He clutches his stomach. He's groaning in pain. Then in another video shared on social media, another explosion this time at a checkout, another person, apparently knocked to the ground. They're standing next to the person with the page teacher lebanese health officials say thousands were injured and at least nine were killed, including at least one child. Has blood which the u. S. Has designated a foreign terrorist organization blames israel for the attack. Israeli officials have declined to comment. I'm joined by john miller, cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst. I mean, this is just an extraordinary operation, i've never seen anything like this. What have you there's never been anything like this. And i we can scale it. There was the palestinian bomb maker who the israelis located and they managed to get a cell phone to him and when he put it up to his ear it detonated didn't they killed him? there was the terrorist organization that managed to get an audience with one of their reformed members with the crown prince in saudi arabia. And had a bomb go off. In his phone, but nobody has ever supplied the communications devices for an entire organization. That was their opponent. And then done what they call a command detonation by sending a push message to all of those devices. Just simultaneously, planning of it. I mean, somehow they must have gotten somewhere between the factory and taiwan and into the hands of hezbollah. Somewhere along that supply chain, they had access to these. I mean, it's incredible they either intercepted these and remember, we're talking not just a box loaded devices, we're talking about hundreds of them, at least. They had to turn each one into an improvised explosive device they had to make sure that each one would be able to receive a command that would set off a detonator in initiator that would set off the main charge that's complicated when you're operating in a tiny device to work all of that into the space. And this is the kind of operation that you thought of last week. This is something that they must have been planning for some time, has hello sources have told cnn that these are pagers that they got delivery of a number of months ago so it seemed jess that the israelis, if they are behind it waited till they were confident that most of the shipment had been distributed to the key operational hezbollah people. There very been a report that has told their operatives not to use their cell phones cell phones because the israelis could reportedly tracking or geo geolocate them somehow. Right? and i mean, that as an intelligence officer is an opportunity, you're looking at that and say, if they're moving away from cell phones, you're gonna be and what are they moving to? most people haven't seen a page or in years, but they do have certain applications and i think when they saw they're moving to pagers they thought can we get in that supply chain somewhere and make those our pagers? think of the meaning of the operation? whether it was meant to kill everybody that the pager blew up on or around or whether it was meant to injure them. It still sends this important message and consider the gravity of this. If you're at the top of hezbollah, you have to say, okay, the israelis new u. S. Better than we thought better than we thought they did and our supply chain our procurement process, where big organization, we have to consider all of that compromised. What else are they into? my automatic car starter. This laptop in front of me. Do they control an explosive in my phone? so their heads have to be spinning. But now let's go to the bottom of the organization every hezbollah operator who's living their normal life, been waiting for a page that says you're going to be operationalized is wondering do my bosses know what they're doing? look at how this was compromised am i safe it's going to make recruiting hard. It's going to make people paranoid. And i think the combination of this tactical operation matched with cyops is remarkable. Yeah. John miller. Thank you. Appreciate it. Up next, the legacy of superman star and disabled veterans, christopher reeve. His life as you know, was changed when he was paralyzed from the neck down in 1995. 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With kaitlan collins next since actor and activist christopher reeve died of heart failure years after a horse riding accident that left him paralyzed from the neck down. The new documentary, superman, the christopher reeve story in select theaters. Next week takes a look at his life in his remarkable legacy. It includes never before seen home videos plus interviews with his three kids and many others who knew him as well. Here's a clip there was a huge shift in my dad from the time after the accident if i may oh, there's and then his entire approach to parenting changed. He started really to see us and to connect to us as people being together and talking was far more valuable and meaningful than doing all this crazy physical activities i was a sailor. I was so scared as a rider i traveled everywhere. And you realize that is not the definition are the essence of your existence but it's the essence or relationships two of his kids, matthew or even alexandra ariev gibbons joins me now. Thank you so much for being with us. It's a remarkable film it, and it's so interesting to me what you said that your relationship with him deepened in this very profound way after he was paralyzed? absolutely. They had to, you know, a lot of the ways we spent time together, an interacted before we're doing physical activities. And after the accident that wasn't possible. But also he changed you went through a very severe neardeath experience? he was left completely paralyzed from the neck down and on a ventilator. And that changes a person. And i think he looked at things differently and i felt found what was important to him was different. And that of course, affected the way he related to us and how he parotid us. It's remarkable many people don't have that sort of realization sometimes until they're on their deathbeds. That he was given the chance to actually have this realization and be able to continue to have in deepen our relationship with you both is a bless absolutely. And he was very selfreflective as a person. And so it wasn't even that this unfolded. He would actually talk about it and say that he was valuing, spending time with us and really savor those moments together. Your father had this accident when he was 42 your younger brother will was 3yearsold. You're now 40 to and you have a threeyearold or when this film was made, you referred you had a threeyearold my dad died when i was a kid. I now have four and a twoyearold and having children. I now see my dad and different way i understand my dad in a completely different way. You talk about that in the film. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, i think one just kind of comparing are thinking about your parent at the age, you are when you remember when you have those memories was certainly one thing. And how we interacted, but also sort of understanding how we're in a different level, how hard it must have been for him not to be able to pick up will or comfort him not to be able to do various sports with him or just kind of have a full able body experience interacting with your child must have been so tough because i know for me he personally is those are some of my favorite things about being a father. And so it just opened up a new found appreciation for how tough it must have been for. I want to show something else in the film when the first superman movie came out the most frequently asked question was what is a hero was here always someone who commit to courageous actions without considering the consequences now, my definition is completely different i think you heroes, an ordinary individual you finds the strength to persevere and endure in spite of overwhelming i mean, there's so many pictures there, so much sound of your dad, is it comforting to hear? it is a difficult to hear him. Oh, i love it. I mean, what a gift to get to see his story told in these papers i'm sure it's and to relive those moments, we get to see as movies. We got the gift of youtube clip showing him in awkward commercials from the adl and other things. Were there any other kind of commercials me so bad. But, but then also just seeing dana there too and capturing these moments of just home life and how normal things were. And i hope that people take that bag, that he was more than the actor on the big screen and he was more than the activists in the wheelchair. He was this full person with a joyful, joyful home and life and that's really what sustained u. S. And the film captures at well, and it feels like a gift to get to go back and revisit it the christopher and didn't reeve foundation has been doing work for a long time. How are things going with we've seen a big breakthroughs in the field and then creating this community of people who can come together for resources and support. And it means that the legacy is so much beyond our family. It is hundreds and thousands of families carrying on this work every day for the millions of people living with paralysis around the world have your do you have one child or two had they seen the film, have they do they know a lot about their grandfather? they haven't seen this documentary. They're very young age and five, they know about their grandfather and they know about that he played superman and we have photos around the apartment. We live in that must be a hard thing to explain that he was superman. It's interesting. Yeah, i remember when i was a kid, i'd i think it was made because i loved the film that as the perfect age for when they came out, it was always very clear to me like it's just a film that is okay didn't really get hurt. Yeah. Well, so lovely that whole new generations of people will be introduced to your dad and to the remarkable life that, that he had in the legacy that you love. But certainly the hope, it's introduce him to whole new generation and to reintroduce them to people who do remember him and did them it's great to see him again. It feels like an old friend, matthew and alexandra. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks for having superman, the christopher reeve story is only in select theaters on september