small number will turn out bowman has tried to apologize and apologize for some of the things he said, but for many voters were talking to is just not enough. >> that was incredible. a lot of passion of that voter. there. thanks, miguel, and thanks to all of you. ac30 60 starts now tonight on 360 would just three days to go until cnn's first the campaign presidential debate. there's breaking news and what the people helping president biden prepare are telling him surprisingly, not to talk about. we'll talk about that and much more with house speaker emerita nancy pelosi, who joins us exclusively tonight. also as new video emergence of a severely wounded hersh goldberg-polin subduction by hamas terrorists is parents talk about his faith and all the others have been held hostage for 206 let's do two days. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news, new reporting. the president biden is being steered away from the message. many expected him to lean on heavily in thursday's cnn debate and toward something more confrontational, seen as kayla tausche has the story joins us now from the white house. what are you learning? >> anderson, we're learning that several prominent democrats have been urging president biden to take a different tack on the economy on thursday's debate stage arguing that his traditional inclination to lean on his record of accomplishments, the 15 million jobs that were created in the economy that's resisted a recession simply are not landing with voters who continue to be frustrated about the cost of living and have given biden an approval rating on the economy that continues to lag that of trump in private conversations with members of the white house and the biden campaign. four sources telling me that they have made this argument directly to biden's team saying that the president needs to go after donald trump for cozying up to corporate america and draw that stark contrast between what his future economic plan would look like and what trump's plan would look like up president biden, when asked by erin burnett last month whether the economy had time to turn around, he was defensive and he said, it's already turned around pointing to some of those data points that i just listed about polling potentially being wrong. and americans simply not getting it. so certainly there is some frustration on biden's behalf that he's not getting credit where it's due, but he's going to have to strike a balance on the debate stage on thursday of trying to prove that progress has taken place while still acknowledging that many voters don't feel it. >> would this be a strain, a change in strategy just for the debate or four the campaign going forward, it's been communicated as a change that needs to happen in the eyes of these sources who are in touch with the white house and the campaign over the home stretch of the race, which many see as kicking into high gear with thursday's debate they argue that the president has not shifted his messaging fast enough. he's continued to lean too heavily on his record, which clearly voters according to his poll numbers are not agreeing width. now, i reached out to the biden campaign payne, who pointed to a new ad that's running in battleground states in both english and spanish for the president speaks directly to them and he says that he understands their struggled to make ends meet. and if things are not the way that they should be, he is also expected to talk a little bit more about this. the challenges that many americans face. and he's begun talking hey, more about the work that still needs to be done, of course is slogan is finishing the job. so we've seen a slower shift over the last few months in that messaging and anderson, but top allies of the white house say it needs to be done faster and sharper. >> all alright, kayla tausche, thanks so much for his board, the former president, his supporters have begun taking the traditional pre-debate step of lowering expectations and praising his opponent in, but it's a tradition. he can't seem to stick to on thursday, for example, he's adjusted the president biden be a quote, worthy debater. by saturday, he was back to completely making stuff up so a little before debate time, he gets a shot the and that's they wanted to strengthen them up so he comes out, he'll come out. >> okay. i say he'll come out all jacked up. right. all jacked the new york times senior political correspondent, best-selling trump biographer maggie haberman joins me now. >> i mean, obviously he has no shame and he makes stuff up, but it's very inconsistent. i mean, it's one moment, it's a worthy debater and then it's he's going to be doing massive amounts of cocaine. >> yeah. it's a microcosm of the donald trump and his team that we have seen over nine years now, which is his team wants him to do one thing. he does something else and sometimes can stick to the script, but then he goes off of it, which is why predictions of how he is going to actually be in this debate are probably not worth very much. we know that he has been preparing for this debate in the way he does with sort of policy sessions as opposed to classic behind the podium matches. but whether he is going to absorb what he's learning there and whether he is going to come in interrupting president biden less than he did in 2020. and their first debate it is an open question because he does what he wants to do. >> i want i just want to play something else. you said at the rally over the weekend how should i handle him? >> should i be tough and nasty? >> or should i be should i be she said, should i be tough for nasty and just say you're the worst president in history or should i be nice and calm? and let him speak i mean, do you think does he sort of change in the moment just riffing how he feels in the moment, or is it something he thinks of as he's going to bet that night and just thinks in his head doesn't tell anybody like some some i think sometimes he plays around with these things on his own. >> i think sometimes as you see, he pulled tests it because he thinks it's going to please whatever crowd he's in front of, whatever's on his mind is often what he does with these crowds. and it could be anything, it could be, you know, he's been pulled testing everyone about vp at various fundraisers and this is along the same lines. i was thinking though as he was saying that i think he will be both. i think he will likely interrupt less because i think that's the lesson main less neto it from the last debate or their first debate in 2020. and i think he will be very mean toward biden. i will be very surprised if he is anything other than that. >> i want to bring in senior political commentators, republican strategist, i should michael singleton, also former biden wine hosts communications director kate bedingfield. first of all, what do you make of this new reporting for kayla tausche in your view, should president biden go on the attack rather than lean on his accomplishment? yeah. look, i think his primary task in this debate is to show people what the choices and that is he's gotta do that by driving aggressively at trump, going at contrast, taking the conversation to the places where trump is most vulnerable. we know that's abortion. we know that's january 6, and democracy. so i think he absolutely needs to be aggressive. i am not of the mindset that that means he can't speak about his record in the debate mean part of what he's trying to do is show people that he's done a good job in the first four years and he deserves four more. and so he can absolutely talk about the things he's done to get our economy to a better place than many thought it would be four years ago. but he's got to do it in a contrast frame. he's gotta do it by saying donald trump's vision for the next four years would make things more expensive for you and he's really got to make sure that he's never just it's talking about hizon accomplishment. but driving it to a choice, but that's really what he's trying to do in this debate. >> people, as you know, history shows from incumbents, incumbent presidents is very hard, usually in their first debate, even presidents flares and obama, david axelrod has talked about this, who knew that history. they still find it hard and part of the reason is because often they do feel a they haven't had people pushing back in their faces for last four years. and also they do feel like they want to talk about their accomplishments, even if there's accomplishments may not be felt are perceived by large numbers of people. yeah, absolutely. i mean, it's a natural instinct you can understand if you've been president the united states for four years, you've been working hard, you've gotten things done. you feel like you want to make it case how do you overcome that? >> so it will some of it is about prep, some of it is about working through how you answer a question in a way that drives to the contrast you want and brings trump in and doesn't just make it about reciting a laundry list of accomplishments that are important and meaningful, but may not feel in the moment like they're landing and people let's lives. >> so it's really thinking about how do you answer a question in a way that brings it back around to donald trump and isn't, doesn't just leave you sort of saying, well, look what i've done and that's enough because it really is about a choice and that's the theory, the biden campaign has had from the outset right? but the way they win is by drawing this contrast and that when they have the trump versus biden comparison trump is on palatable. and so that's, he's got a really stick to that in this debate. sure. my golf mean trump is even rusty or he has not been in the arena really for the last while he was and he's been talking to i mean, there's been an arenas but just in long rambling, soliloquy is yeah. >> i mean, look good. it's been awhile for the former president. it's been awhile for the current president. >> i think it's putin for both of these men. if i can take an objective analysis here to really drive home with their plans are for immigration and for the economy. if i'm advising president biden, i want to be contrite. i want to acknowledge that while things have improved, i get that for most people, you're not filling those things materially. this is what i'm going to do if given another form for years if you're donald trump, you wanna make a contrast from president biden to say, look, he's been given four years, things have not gotten better, things have gotten worse by some metrics. this is what i will do to improve your lot in life, both gentlemen are going to have to wrestle anderson. i would argue with trying to accomplish two different things if they're wanting to achieve some level of measurable success at the end of this debate. >> but mega i mean, that sounds for rational candidates. yes, that makes sense for what this debate very could easily devolve into i mean, you don't hear a lot of policy from donald trump. i mean, that's just not what his thing is when you do here and it's an incredibly broad strokes and most of what you hear is him in condemning president biden. and i expect that you will continue hearing that. i mean, i also think trump is going to have a different set of arguments against him by president biden than he has had in the past. what what came up over and over and over again when, when president trump was in office as president, was questions about corruption, questions about investigations he was facing. obviously, there's going to be i think references to the criminal case and i'm sure that you will hear the current president talk about that, but i also think jen o'malley dillon, the campaign manager for joe biden or who's running the campaign? had align with john holman in park this morning in an interview where she basically made clear that the contrast is going to be i'm joe biden and i care about you and donald trump only cares about himself and people like him, and that's the, he's a rich guy contrast. and so i do think you are likely to hear the incumbent president deal with that. i don't know what you're going to hear. trump's say in response. >> should michael, i just want to play something of how the foreign president's claims he has been preparing for the debate i'm preparing by taking questions from you and others if you think about it, we had a great meeting just now and philadelphia with the at the at the shop, you saw that with all the wonderful people. >> we just left, faith and freedom in dc. and that was incredible. so, but i'm preparing by dealing with you. your tougher than all of them. >> i mean, it's like i don't think that's true, but if that is true, i mean, that's a gift to the vitamin ministration, obviously, because the soft balls he gets from people set up events are obvious, like is different. every canada is different when i worked for mitt romney, he had a very, very arduous debate prep process. i wasn't a part of that. that was still growing in my political career. but when i worked for new gingrich, a great debate are really smart guy deep into the policy stuff. dr. carson was very different you really have to put a prep candidates where they are anderson based upon their strengths and weaknesses. i hope that the trump campaign is focusing on that, but i want to say something quickly to a maggie was just saying if president biden spends the majority of his time talking about january 6, are talking about democracy with san donald trump doesn't care about you. >> that does not prevent but an answer for what he's going to do for the next four years. if i'm a voter and i'm thinking i already have my opinions on donald trump already have my opinions on joe biden. all joe biden is talking about how terrible trump is about trump is saying, okay, but the economy sucks under joe biden, but immigration as a problem under joe biden, but the world is on fire because of multiple foreign conflicts with aggression from china, with a russians from russia under joe biden. that is a very, very clear contrast. i get bring it up the point, maybe once or twice, but if i'm buying, i'm talking about what i'm going to do for the next four years while understanding where people currently are to do the alternative would be a drastic mistake in my opinion kate president biden does sometimes get tripped up when i mean, i think he has natural inclination to go into details on policy, details on things he other legislation he has passed in his long storied career and that can get tripped up. >> and when you're facing somebody who doesn't need to go into any details on any policies i mean, he used to have a policy when he was first running about going to iraq and taking their oil and surrounding the oil fields with soldiers and just sucking all the oil out. >> it made no sense, but how do you argue against that? >> well, some of it i think is under i mean, part of what they're trying to do here is illustrate that trump is not fit to return to the oval office. so i don't think i don't believe you do that by having an extensive policy debate back and forth. i don't think that that's where most of the audience is going to be focused. i think that that takes you down rabbit hole polls, that feels disconnected from people's lives. we could talk about whether what that means about the state of politics. but i think that that's true. so you know, for, for biden, i think really pushing to hold trump accountable on the things that we know are some of his biggest political vulnerabilities but also forcing him, i mean, sort of tisha michael's points are forcing him to talk about what are you gonna do for the next four years? what are you gonna do to help people across this country and really taking it to the offensive rather than spending all of that time on the defensive defending himself and his policies. >> the problem with that though, is that trump has been president before. >> and so they're there for for whatever reason, and there's a lot of debates as to why a big factors it seems to be the post-covid period. there are a lot of people who feel like their lives were last good in 2019 and trump happened to be president then. and so that's its, he's biden is not facing a tabula rasa, isn't somebody who has not. but i also think that's part of biden's task is to remind people of the things that they disliked about trump. the thing that most, the most outrageous immigration language, the things that were off-putting to people motion tree covid, which is a hard which is a lot of people who agree with trump's. >> but not here's the thing about, but here's the thing about trump's immigration policies. they agree with tougher policies. they don't agree or like the most hateful rhetoric, the saying immigrants are poisoning the blood, family separation. >> well, i would agree with getting trunk if biden doesn't have to win on immigration, that's the other thing to remember. >> he has to mitigate damage for himself and immigration. he isn't a win. the debate on immigration and on the crime and two of the baby's driving the car he's driving the conversation to the worst parts of trump's immigration policy. >> that's a good thing for a their cubicle. thank you. sure. michael singleton, maggie haberman. thanks. coming up next the 360 exclusive conversation, the house speaker emerita nancy pelosi, and what she expects to see in the debate stage and the issue she feels will motivate voters on election day in later, my conversation with parents of hersh goldberg-polin, one of the eight americans being held hostage and gaza's disturbing new video of his abduction on october 7 is released when i was diagnosed with hiv, i didn't know who i would be, but here i am being me. >> keep being you and ask your health care provider about the number one prescribed hiv treatment. but toffee bits rv is a complete one pill once a day trip little used for hiv in many people, whether you're 18 or any, with one small pill, pick debris, fights hiv to help you get to undetectable and stay there. whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking hiv treatment as prescribed and getting two and staying undetectable prevents transmitting hiv through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure, rare life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems do not take battarbee if you take dofetilide or rifampin, tell your health care provider about all the medicines and supplements you take. if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis, if you have hepatitis b and that stuff, taking victory without we're talking to your health care provider, common side effects with diarrhea, nausea, and headache, no matter where life takes you, big tar we can go with you, talk to your healthcare provider today who are you i'm in a child less force. are you going to get you going? 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>> yes, i do. as i did in the last election. and the 22 election people said, oh, forget it. the dobbs decision is in the rear-view mirror said no, it isn't. it's a look for kitchen table. it's right there as an economic issue for people to make decisions about their families if and when they want to have a family, it's an economic issue. it's a freedom issue. so today as a temporal marker two years since the dobbs decision, all over the country, the democrats are having a drumbeat of support for women not to say we as the republicans do, we're not for birth control, but were for controlling women. a big difference. this was one of the accomplishments of his administration. what's his name? what he was there a overturning roe v. wade, his other big decision was a tax bill that gave 83% of the benefits to the top 1% the worst job creation records since herbert hoover at the same time, joe biden's under his leadership, the public and private sector working together 15 million jobs created back to the kitchen table what's his name says? obamacare sucks. i hate using that language, but not that much obamacare sucks. no, it doesn't suck. it cures and joe biden has has taken us to a place where we have expanded subsidies to lower costs for more people. and in the ira bill taking the cost of insulin from five $600 a month to $35 a month for seniors on medicare so the cost of living when we talk about it, we're concerned about it. but we also understand that access to health care and prescription drugs is an important part of that and certainly the size and timing of our families. >> well, the with this debate, incumbent presidents have often stumbled in their first debates. obama, i mean, the list is a long one. what do you think president biden needs to do in this debate? because we were just having this discussion about a number of those issues which you talked about and you cited in a way that's very positive for a lot for the president to talk about. but there's a lot of people listening who don't feel their lives are better well, here's the thing, and i say this all the time people don't vote for you because you say you deserve for what you have done, what you have done just proves that you can get the job done and again, you're either give me a tax cut to the top 1% or you're creating jobs for the mass an economy that bubbles up up and grows from the middle so i always say to people when you're running, don't talk that you deserve it because of what you've done. but at demonstrates that you are capable and what joe biden will do, he will protect a woman's right to choose he will, again, continue to expand the economy from the bottom up. he will be there to protect our planet as they are trying to undo what we did before. so we have to protect what we have done but it's not enough. we need to show where we go from here. some right down to that kitchen table, a woman's right to two job creation, lowering the cost of education. the list goes on and on. some polls have shown prison biden lagging his previous levels of support with key parts of the democratic base, young people, african american voters, latin voters, women what do you mean? >> does that concern you? does that keep you up at night? >> well, i saw a poll today that said among young people 18 to 30, that biden was a head by 23 points, that people have did care about a woman's right to choose lgbtq and minority issues. they cared about the, planet and the rest so again, we don't agonize, we organize to get out that vote. as you know, i came up through the ranks as a grassroots political organizer, width said, we just have to own the ground in order to win elections at that mobilization requires message that is inspiring and i'm so proud of you want. and by the way i have a a nose for good campaigns and i am so encouraged by what i smell and see around the country, owning the ground. so i feel pretty optimistic about it and i feel very proud of joe biden and 90 no hell, do a good job saying what we're doing next. you know, what we're doing next, i have to ask you about what the former president has been saying about january 6. the former president has referred to people who've been prosecuted due to the actions they took in january 6 attacking police officers, breaking into the capitol. he's referred to them as hostages. he's called them political prisoners at a recent rally in las vegas. he called them warriors i mean, do you do you think if he's reelected, he will try to part in january 6 defendants, but but when you hear him use those terms as somebody who was there and had to flee. >> i mean what does that what do you think of that well, i think it's very sick you know, i always like to quote our national anthem that we have to prove through the night that our flag is still there. >> and we have to prove through all this difficulty of all the misrepresentations that he is putting forth it it's really sad that people even and fall for that. but the fact is we have to prove are flag is still there by showing the difference we talk about honoring our first responders are men and women in uniform yes. let's do that. let's not praise and call warriors, people who attacked them over, well over 100 law enforcement people injured that de, some died within because of that. this is again, we were there, we saw it. what's tragic is, as horrible as it was. and the members know how horrible it was. these people were coming through the dome the dome of the capital that lincoln built. lincoln built that joined the civil war. and he said, we must continue to build it even though we're awards show the resilience of america, lincoln's dome nazi and confederate flags under their death defecation to disrespect for the people who make the congress run in terms of the workers. of course, a threat to all of the members of congress. they were there, they saw it. some of them, even talked about it that night, but then they changed their mind for some reason, they've decided to engage in revisionist history about what happened that night. we're going to meet a believe what i see with my very eyes. or you want me to believe what you have to say about it. you yu former president who was incited an insurrection on the capital of the united states. this beacon of liberty to the world and insurrection against the constitution of the united states on the day the constitution required us to validate the election an insurrection against the congress of the united states, that now some of those members are changing their tune for some reason. that's why we really just have to be go right to why people vote. they vote for what it means to them. what does it mean to the education of my children? they might the cost of my health care, the fact that i will have a job, what it means to my pension that's a big contrast between democrats and republicans and in doing so, we can protect our democracy. put to rest these lies that the president is putting forth it, it's typical of his lack of respect for the congress, the constitution, and the rest by what he did that de, in what he's saying now, do you have good i don't think. in other words, that's it. that's a responsibility that we have but how do we win it? at the kitchen table? >> do you have confidence in the supreme court? >> i mean, the thereof yet to rule on this immunity thing, all this thing about alito and the flags and clarence thomas and his wife. i mean, do you have confidence in the supreme court? >> no, i think they've gone rogue. its most unfortunate, but it's unfortunate further to see what the other justice, what happened to the what happened to the chief justice. that he go week or did he go rogue? i don't know. and that's the same thing with these members of congress have i can take it back to that because it's tracking she does that notewise and they were coming after me to put a bullet. my head are going to hang the have a gallows for the vice president of the united states but just a matter of hours when i call people back to the floor overwhelmingly republicans voted against the results of the electoral college that was almost as heartbreaking and devastating as to see what those slavs that came in with their confederate flags and their nazi flags in the rest of what they came in to do to the capital of the united states. no, i don't have competence supreme court. i think that some of the decisions they see i respect their point of view if they have a point of view, a better woman's right to choose, okay. but that's not what they're there to do to advocate for a point of view, run for congress they're there to uphold the constitution of the united states. and many of them said in their hearings for confirmation, they said that they supported they supported the precedence of the court, the presence of the court support the privacy in the constitution what do they do? they vote their opinion on policy rather than the oath of office to uphold the constitution of the united states. so i, i want us to get back to a place where the three branches of government as are our founders initiated are respected across the board. but i don't have a lot of confidence in this court unfortunately, i say that with a heavy heart, we have to go, but i'd be remiss if i didn't ask the person whose name i shall not say was convicted of the attack on your husband, how mr. pelosi doing he's okay. i mean, he's making progress is about 80% there physically a trauma dramatically. it's terrible, but as we pray about it, we're always worried about other people and how the incitement of these people for what the things that they say, the lies that they tell to what insights somebody to come into my home and that and i just worry about other elected officials, whatever their point of view is, whatever side of the aisle their own that they not be subjected to that because that undermines our democracy in such a very serious way. but what was awful about it what was awesome about at anderson was that they made jokes about it. the president of the united states had ridiculous thing. the former, what's his name ridiculous statements. his son said stupid things. some of his supporters and you know who they are, said, awful things that was very hurtful to us, to our children, to our grandchildren. but more importantly to our country who do they think they are? 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>> i actually first saw just a couple of hours ago because similar to when, you shared the video that you shared with us back in october and i didn't watch it for a chunk of time. i have the same reaction with this. the army came to show jon the video last week and i didn't even see it today. we were doing some media about it and i hadn't seen it, but i did see it a couple of hours ago and i'm still digesting it. and obviously as a parent, i mean, it's a video that's just heartbreaking and sickening and difficult to put into words how i just feel broken for him and for the other young people in that in that pickup truck john. >> so you saw the video last week, i guess. what when you what was your initial reaction what is there something some part of it that stood out to you that you felt was important? >> there wasn't a specific part. it first of all, rachel, i agree that it's horrific. it's gut-wrenching, it's a video that no parent wants to see if their kid nobody wants to see if their loved ones but when the other families approached and said that they wanted release to the public, we right away said yes. and that was because it's important. it's important that people in the world see the videos, understand what's happening, understand what happened on october 7, and most particularly that leaders of the world see it. we families of hostages don't need any reminders. we don't need any wake-up calls. we work 24 hours a day, seven days a week for the release of our loved ones. world leaders. >> maybe they need to wake up call it's also i mean, his hair is being pulled the hearing these these terrorists rejoicing, talking about taking selfies with them for them i mean, they are not viewing these hersh or the other people in this truck as as people, i mean, this is a two here that it's just a reminder of the and to know what occurred minutes before this video was taken in the preceding hour is not just on that day, but specifically to hersh and the others who are in that shelter. >> i mean people who had the same people had just taken part in the slaughter of young people in this bomb shelter right and that's that's part of what is so hard to wrap my mind around when i'm looking at hirsch and he's covered in blood and he has his arm out to the side because as you can see in the video from the elbow down, there's a jagged thank bones sticking out and then to see the person grab him by the hair and pull his head up and he says something about, you let's take a selfie or take a selfie of me with him and knowing that hersh had just seen his best friend blown up and 17 others killed in that bomb shelter and just trying process what he could have been any way i've been trying to think about or imagine was in store for him. it's just i'm devastating you had so much concern about you know, whether hearse had had had made it out just from his injury alone. >> you see a tourniquet being put on at later on in the video that i mean, do you think that probably saved his life? >> i mean, clearly they wanted to at this stage, they knew the value in the sixth value in keeping him alive as a hostage well, i'm happy that for whatever reasons that he was obviously treated, because as we all know on day 201, we had a video released that shows her tsh with a stump where that jagged bone had been. so obviously there were some real treatment that happens although we've been told by intelligence medical teams, and several surgeons who've just reached out to us saying, he he definitely needs at least one, if not two more surgeries. but we know from day 201 thank god that he is alive. >> i know you've had a lot of contact with the biden administration. rachel, i know you were on a call with president biden or early on with other american families. >> it does it. >> i don't even know how to ask this question. i don't know if it's appropriate to ask, but hersh's american and there are other americans who had been held hostage for 262 days. and there are people from other countries as well. many other countries is you and i have talked about before would being held hostage, do you feel like hersh's name is known by as many americans who should know his name. and the other americans are being held hostage oh definitely. >> we know for sure that the vast, vast majority of americans have no idea that there are a us civilians being held hostage right now while we're we're having this conversation, there as us citizens being held hostage in gaza for 262 days in an active war zone. and it's terrifying situation. and the fact that people don't even know the eight and have no one idea of who they are is really disheartening purse. keith tsugi, omer, eden, eti, judy, and gadi eight americans. those are names that we wish people would know and talk about and learn their stories and advocate for them on an original thinking. very much thank you, anderson. thank you. >> just want you to hear the full names of the eight americans who were taken hostage in gaza along with hersh goldberg-polin. there's keith siegel, soggy decal hen omer neutra, dunn, alexander there's e. tai hen judi weinstein, haggai, gadi haggai and all are still in gaza unknown exactly their conditions. next two crucial hearings today in the former president's slow moving classified documents, case february's when you host your bathroom can feel like a revolving door. good things fresh with a brief small spaces. >> it's an outlet free air freshener. the flight voters are 45 days. so even soon after every class, you know, your bathroom smells amazing allow imagine a future we're plastic is not wasted. but instead remade over and over into the things that keep our food fresher our families safer and our planet cleaner to help us get there america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change. >> because when you push for smarter solutions, week things can happen a cockroach resilient creatures, where there is one others aren't far behind. how that's fine ortho home defense, max, indoor insect barrier, one application kills and prevents bugs for three 365 days nature's wild, your home doesn't have to be perfect day for a family outing shingles doesn't care, but ingrid's wrote ttx only shangri-la is proven over 90% objective shangri-la is a vaccine used to prevent shingles and adults 50 years and older, ching-te x does not protect everyone who is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients are two previous dose and increased risk of de on both are a syndrome was observed after getting chambers 19th and also happen. >> the most common side effects are pain redness and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. ask your doctor or pharmacist? 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so the new york state state trial that we just had the gag korda that was in place was intended to protect the trial. >> so it was fairly specific. it said donald trump cannot comment publicly on any party cannot comment publicly about the jurors, the witnesses, or essentially the courtroom staff. >> the order that doj is seeking here is different. >> what doj is asking basically is we don't want him making comments that could endanger law enforcement officials and you remember a couple months ago, trump's started saying this ridiculous false theory that when doj searches house, the fbi searched his house, there was some plan to potentially assassinate him and outrageous inflammatory statements. so doj's trying to tamp that down. i think judge cannon is a bit resistant because she says that doj needs to show something more specific than just generalized concern that someone might do something. and she said, we haven't seen any specific example being if you look at trump's history though, there are plenty of examples. yeah. i mean, there were no affidavits from particularly fbi officials or anything. do you think the judge is right to be skeptical? >> i do. i but i think there's a way to thread the needle here i think that the only thing he's saying that's endangering anyone is they're out to kill me. biden's out to assassinate me. fbi wants me dad and tried to kill me he needs to stop saying that because i think that endangers law enforcement writ large. they he doesn't know these fbi agents. their names have been redacted. i'm not sure they're in specific danger, but we've had incidents that based on things he said, some of his i was told to use the word voters, not followers in the last episode. but here's voters have done bad things. they have walked into an fbi office, threatened to kill people. somebody just got terrible hate mail. i guess it was alvin bragg. they would kill him. so things happen when people speak the way he's speaking, and it's so obviously false. so i would try to thread the needle, say these are the only two things you can say surely you can give those two up, but you can go say everything else. i'm not going to give a full blown gag order. >> led make the trump motion targeting a religion. the special counsel's office's unlawfully funded. it's been made before and rejected before by other litigants in trump's position, it was made to try to disqualify robert mueller was made to try to disqualify david weiss, the special counsel that's all in the hunter biden case prior judges have rejected those arguments. >> it's not a ridiculous argument, essentially, the argument is the funding isn't coming through doj. it's coming from a general item. and also, if somebody is going to be given the powers that special counsels given to indict and try federal cases they should be nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. however, the rulings so far and other cases have been, this is the ag delegating and the attorney general has the power to do that. so i think judge cannon's going to reject that. and if she doesn't, i look for jack smith to appeal and probably get her overturned judge, there was tension between judge cannon, one of the prosecutors on the case. >> she admonished jim saying she didn't appreciate that. the prosecutors tone he apologized for that is that how you would have handled the situation happened once i've been there it happened once with your guest but but yes, i'm going to judge was really fed up with somebody's behavior. >> they might call the person out the way she did was ellie's tone like arrogant well, well, that's a long time. >> i was young. i was 30 time ago. long time ago? 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