all of you down in houston, mr. pickles at houston zoo tortoise became a first-time father at 90. you got alpha cina was impressive i mean, with a name like mr. pickles. where are you going to do cad morocco. >> and thank you so much. again, it's called rocket engine arians really, really fascinating. where else would you expect from mo raga? thanks for watching. anderson cooper 360 starts. now tonight on 360, the former president goes to washington to formalize his almost total takeover of the republican party. >> what he told me lawmakers behind closed doors, when a signal signals about his plans if reelected. also, tight, cnn's donie o'sullivan talking with trump's supporters about what they think will happen the country if he loses. into a pill, it's applied prize-winning historian. but what she thinks might happen if he wins also breaking news, i'm supreme court judge thomas already you under scrutiny for accepting millions of dollars in gifts and travel over the years. now, the senate judiciary committee reveals three more trips he took, but did not disclose. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep it on, keeping them honest with the former president's de in washington, with his party. and that use the possessive to describe the republican senators and house members email with today in separate closed-door sessions, each just steps from the capital is no accident because if he's done nothing else over the last three-and-a-half years of insurrection and search warrants and indictments and trials and felony convictions. it has been to remake the party of ronald reagan in his own image the house meeting. he made a point of reminding members and nearly every republican get into voted to impeach him as either been voted out of office or retired? not that by this point, they're survivors really needed reminding. listen to speaker of the house mike johnson almost basking in the afterglow and majority whip tom emmer, a self-proclaimed tough on crime while lawmaker, attacking the criminal justices he said very complimentary things about all of us. >> we had sustained applause. he said, i'm doing a very good job. we're, grateful for that. >> i'm going to add anybody who sought that this president was going to be down after the sham trial after that crooked trial that we saw in new york. i think again more than more than one member of congress in the house meeting told cnn that the former president has spent most of his time here grievances about his felony conviction afterwards at a house judiciary committee hearing, democratic members world all too happy to bring it up just to show hands for anyone in the room who hung out with a felon today hey guys probably want to get your hands up. i want to begin by quoting the jury in the manhattan hush money payment trial guilty guilty guilty guilty now it's remarkable because whatever you think that congressional decorum or for that matter, x presidential criminality. >> this is where we are, but we are convicted felon leads the self-proclaimed party of law and order in his post-conviction visit, just a few blocks away from the place that his supporters attacked into filed is just another headline and so is what one lawmaker in the rooms, as he told house members about former demo house speaker nancy pelosi, after calling one of his daughters a quote wacko, he reportedly claimed that one of her daughters wants told him that he and speaker pelosi would have had a quote, great romance in another life dr. christine today, responded tweeting quotes, speaking for all four pelosi daughters, this is a lie. he also called milwaukee start of the republican national convention, quote horrible, according to a source in the room another lawmaker later saying he was only talking about crime all from a single meeting at this other meeting, his republic with republican senators also close to the capital. he spoke with minority leader mitch mcconnell for the first time since december 2020 the photo prompting this reaction from liz cheney, the staunchly conservative former republican congresswoman, who was drummed out while first out of the party leadership and then out of office for co-chair and the january 6 committee, she tweeted and quote hooded words. mitch mcconnell made on the senate floor in february 13, 2021 cheney wrote mitch mcconnell knows trump provoked the violent attack and our capital and then quote watch television happily unquote as his mob brutally beat police officers and hunted the vice president. he knows trump reviews for hours to tell his mob to leave and quote even then with police officers bleeding, he kept repeating his election leinz and praising the criminals. she went on to say again, quoting mcconnell, he knows that trump committed a quote, disgraceful dereliction of duty, unquote, and is a danger to our republic here are some more of what mcconnell said on that day there's no question. >> none their president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day was her tough words from mitch mcconnell, but just 12 days later, after he said that on the 25th, center mcconnell, at those words telling fox is brett bear, he would support the man he so recently criticized if he's nominated in 2024, talk, it seems is cheap. >> join us now with more cnn's meloni's in ono. so what else went on behind closed doors today with trump? >> well anderson heading into these meetings, lawmakers are really hopeful that trump was going to be talking about a campaign strategy or laying out his vision for a policy agenda. and now there was some of that one of the more substantive moments was on trump brought up the topic of abortion, and he counseled republicans about how he thinks they should talk about this issue. he said, they shouldn't be afraid of it. they should frame it as a state's issue. and he also encourage republicans to voice support for exceptions and not come across as too extreme on the issue. but for the most part according to all the lawmakers that i spoke to, these meetings were more of an airing of grievances. it was a gripe session and particularly in the house meeting this morning, i'm told that trump, of course brought up the legal challenges against them, calling all the charges against him, quote, bogus. he also referred to the department of justice as quote, dirty, no good according to some of the lawmakers but i talked to he even at one point complained about taylor swift. were endorsing his rival president joe biden. and he also gloated about how most of the house republican and who voted to impeach him over the january 6 insurrection are no longer in congress. so it was a very wide ranging speech, very freewheeling that member say more like a pep rally or even a roast than a serious policy discussion should wonder. and taylor swift has not endorsed joe biden. do you have any more details on the trump mcconnell counter well with trump and mcconnell, there was a very serious effort. >> i'm told by both parties to really bury the hatchet after years of feuding and years of frost newness right before the meeting trump and mcconnell shook hands, which was captured on a photograph during the meeting. trump credited mcconnell with helping to elect more republican senators. and then after the meeting, mcconnell praised trump and said the meeting was very, very positive. so just a remarkable inflection point, i think anderson, we're going to look back on this moment similar to kevin mccarthy tracking down to mar-a-lago in the weeks after january 6, and really just captures how much the party including some of trump's former critics like mcconnell, have really fallen in line in the years after january 6. and despite these criminal convictions, anderson bones in order. thanks so much one snails new york democratic congressman daniel goldman, congressman, any surprises for you today in the visit by trump not really he didn't come to the capital, which was a good thing because this is where he fomented a massive riot and insurrection to try to keep, keep him installed in office he didn't talk much about policy because he doesn't really care much about policy. what he cares about is himself and what he cares about is his conviction 34 times for being a felon and what he cares about others three other cases and getting revenge. and he wants to do that by tearing down our democracy. and what he was effectively doing today is greases the wheels trying to play nice with republicans who support he needs in order to become president so that he can take his fat fascist authoritarian views into office if he were to win. >> and it is just a very telling, i think that mitch mcconnell has now bowed down to the ring of donald trump someone who, you quoted what he said on january 20, where he helped donald trump responsible for their january six riot. >> and has resisted donald trump. but now he has clearly demonstrated that donald trump owns the republican party. there is no other faction of the republican party that has any influence other than donald trump and his maga supporters. >> obviously, none of us, there's privilege privy to the inner thoughts so mitch mcconnell, but why do you think senator mcconnell made this choice? i mean, after, you know the strong comments he made criticizing trump theory the racist attacks trump made against mcconnell's own wife. i mean, what is mitch mcconnell get out of this anderson, what do any of these people who i know good mcconnell is running i mean, it's, you know, he could he could go out on like liz cheney, who at least has taken a very strong stand ultimately now mix for the same reasons that mitch mcconnell refused to give merrick garland a vote for the supreme court and then rammed any amy coney barrett through under the same circumstances, two weeks before the election, mitch mcconnell has a very focused and narrowly tailored view of what he wants to accomplish and at the end of the day, i'm sure mitch mcconnell views donald trump as the only possibility to get these type of conservative judges who have now over return roe v wade back into more into the our judiciary and into the supreme court. and push forward a clear lead minority favored agenda that mitch mcconnell has been pushing for decades it was interesting millions and i was reporting is that trump was telling lawmakers counseling them on how to run about and talk about abortion and to talk about states rights and to not seem too extreme do you have any belief that that's how he would be if he got into office? absolutely not donald trump does not care. >> donald trump used to be pro-choice. he used to be a democrat. now, he's out there promoting and celebrating his don't work and getting roe versus wade overturned. he will do whatever he needs to do to secure the support for his fascist anti hi democratic attacks on the rule of law to undermine our democratic institutions. and if that means that he'll give over supreme court nominations to mitch mcconnell or someone else. it's on the far right. who wants to roll back our individual freedoms even more than this supreme court has done. he will do that in a minute. and if there's a national abortion ban that publications pass, donald trump will sign that in two seconds. do not believe donald trump whenever he says that he will stand up for for abortion rights, he has completely flip-flopped in his career. he will do whatever benefits himself. speaker johnson was asked yesterday, the former president would accept the outcome of the election. >> i just want to play that for years really for the first time republican house and senate meeting with him since the january 6 attack on the capital. are you committed or have you spoken to him about basically not not doing anything like that again and come mating to respecting the sort of american tradition of peaceful transfer of course, he respects that and we all do and we've all talked about it at nausea i mean i mean yeah. >> i mean, i can anyone say with a straight face of donald trump respects the peaceful transfer of power? >> that i want you to take that clip and run it over and over and over. that is everything you need to know about mike johnson and the maga republican party they will look you in the eye and they will lie directly to your face over and over and over. there is no question that donald trump does not respect a peaceful transfer of power. he has made it a litmus test for his vice president that whoever that will be will not pt the results. and that's why you have every single vice presidential candidates so far refusing to concede or acknowledged that they will accept the results. donald trump, it will not accept the peaceful a trap power you don't have to ask me or trust me, he already did it. so for speaker johnson to look in the camera and to say that of course he respects the peaceful of transfer of power. put that on every bulletin board around the country, country, it is total bogus and it shows you what knowing liars the landscape, of the g7 summit in italy, the two signing a new tenure security agreement at the press conference afterwards, frozen biden spoke briefly when asked about his son, hunter i'm extremely proud of my son hunter. he is overcoming addiction. he is he's one of the brightest, most decent man i know and i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything. i sat i said i bide by the jury decision. i will do that. and i will not partner the present-day also ruled out commuting his on sentencing is mj lee is traveling with the president, joins us now from from barry, italy. >> so mj earlier in the week, the white house appeared to leave open the possibility of a commutation or centrally not commenting at essentially overturning the sentence, not a conviction what specifically did the president say about that yeah. >> when the president was walking away from that press conference, some reporters are loud, which do you commute your sons sentence and he answered directly. he said no. >> that was after he had more broadly addressed the conviction of his son hunter, as you just played there standing by his son, standing by the judicial system, and also reiterating his previously stated position on pardoning his son. >> he said, i well, not pardon him anderson white house officials had suspected that it was likely he would get asked about the hunter issue at this news conference, given that it happened just two days ago, he had not publicly commented on in yet on it yet, and they knew that this specific issue of the commutation was one that could come up if you'll recall? yes. yesterday white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked by a reporter whether she would rule out that possibility and she wouldn't say yes or no. and that exchange, the white house, you had i've taken on a life of its own when in reality, i'm told the issue was really that some senior aides hadn't had a chance yet to speak to the president about the commutation issue. corinne jean-pierre said yesterday to reporters, i haven't talked to him about this yet. i'm not just i'm not going to have anything more to say on this, but it certainly was a really remarkable moment. the president speaking on this kind of a stage. on the other side of the world about an issue that has been so deeply sensitive or his entire family mj lee, thanks more in prison, biden's trip later in the program. next though cnn's donie o'sullivan and talking to trump's supporters as well as a historian of dictatorships and autocracies about donald trump mokgweetsi. and later there's breaking news. turns out there are even more undisclosed trips. supreme court justice clarence thomas took paid for by republican megadonor start. >> your de, with nature me. >> the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin supplement brand cities. >> industry-leading global payment solutions help their clients move money around the world he mostly in over 180 countries and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need together, city in the world, food per gram and power families across the globe if you're shopping for a home realtor.com, real choice financing, lets you choose from up to three independent lenders. >> unlike some apps that push you to use their mortgage company, really really trust the number one app, real estate professionals trust is bad debt holding you back all your ambitions, all in one low fixed rates bar with 100 cake no fees required. so phi get your money, right so who are you i'm in a child that you really need to live is some fricking, tall oh, yeah. >> four-star keeps you going toward get you going now we're talking i love guard bonds hello, i know what our job wanted. >> are totally torqued out crossing that on family-friendly hotels. so many great trips we might just leave here with another vacation baby take it easy, paris and u2 for motor to help. lisa wasn't toledo earlier happy priceline p team checkout for imprint.com. >> in brynn, for certain. >> i'm melissa bell in paris and this it's cnn prison biden is billing his reelection campaign as a fight to preserve democracy. >> tonight, how that notion is going down with trump's supporters as well as one node good author who's made describing how democracies fail her specialty more from cnn's donie o'sullivan what happens if trump loses? i don't see him losing. i don't think he lost the last election to be honest. do you think he's going to win? >> yes. >> without a doubt. no doubt. you want if he doesn't this time, what happens to the contrary and we're done biden talks about democracy saving democracy they're the ones that are killing you democracy. >> obviously there's a lot of criticisms of trauma that he is bad for democracy that he's bad for it american democracy. >> a republican or a republic are not a democracy republican. we're not a democracy one thing we've been hearing a trump rallies like this over the past year two months. >> is that america isn't really a democracy america's not a democracy. >> that's a real pub it's not a democracy okay? mark hirsi is actually not as good as you think it is. >> but for centuries, america has celebrated its democracy. >> democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy, but some republicans and pro-trump media are pushing the idea that america is not a democracy united states of america is not a democracy. we are constitutional republic. >> those things were america is not a democracy. you don't want to be in a democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic is america a democracy? america is a democracy. it was founded as a democracy. >> i've heard a lot of conspiracy theories. i hear a lot of things out on the road. but to hear americans people who would describe themselves as patriots say that america is not a democracy that stopped me in my tracks you are hearing people say america is not a democracy because there are people around trump who won't get them to be saying that, who'd been planting that narrative is america democracy i don't think we'll never now. >> yeah, we're, republic. what's the difference? >> i feel like democracy we think this through its government i don't see freedom and drop freedom in the republic honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have often been used interchangeably. there isn't a meaningful difference between them. >> so much of the warnings and criticism about trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he has anti-democratic absolutely. >> if they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter. >> that's why, like, why has democracy become a bad word? >> because it's been used in a way to change the flavor of our country which is a republic. >> these words were used in different ways in the 18th century, and it's true the founders didn't want direct democracy by which they meant people gathering on the town square. they wanted representative democracy. but i think the reason why this conversation about the language has risen now is because there is a part of the republican party that would like to rule as a minority. and they need an excuse for why that's okay. and so they have begun to say, we're not a democracy. were are public and it's not 100% clear what that means. but i think they mean we want donald trump to be able to do whatever where he wants. >> some people i've been saying that trump events recently. yes. i been saying american is not a democracy. >> that's a republic. >> we've always been a democracy. first of all, we have sleep. we use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion. we used to have that two. now they're picking on the christians and the jewish people. >> i mean, how much work? >> how are you concerned if trump loses yeah, that there'll be another january 6. no. i think there will be a civil war that's what i think will happen during this whole democracy republican is fascinating. this is the first i've, heard of that kind of new thing that there are now pushing those. it looks like folks on fox are pushing it is the reason the people you spoke with think that country isn't a democracy now yeah, look, i mean, i understand some of those folks no doubt, genuinely believed that i might have believed for a long time, this isn't necessarily a new talking point. however, we have seen it just revive over the past few months and they're really the reason we did this piece was over over the past few months, just unprompted as i was speaking to a lot of trump supporters, they would bring this very specific lineup. i look this real, it's not a debase right about the form of government here. it's not a debase about democracy really why this is happening. and you saw it there in that piece on fox news elsewhere on conservative and right-wing media people are trying to convince trump's supporters, others that america is not a democracy in the first place. and we actually saw, i happen to notice that this seem to pick up a bit after president biden speech in philadelphia where he described trump as a threat to democracy. this is how they seem to be trying to twist language to try and neutralize describing trump as a threat to democracy. because if america is not a democracy in the first place, then there's nothing to worry about. >> your winning a solvent. thank you very much. one of the pillars of a democracy is the rule of law and laws of course, are enforced by courts and the highest court in the land and the supreme court is once again under fire tonight, over new ethics concerns, specifically the behaviors surrounding justice clarence thomas, late this afternoon, senate judiciary chairman dick durbin released new information from a major republican donor about more undisclosed trips provided to justice thomas. it follows previous reporting about numerous on disclosed gifts from that conservative billionaire harley when crow, which include private school tuition for a relative of thomases and decade's worth of luxury vacations last week after the release of 2023 disclosures, thomas said certain disclosures had been, quote inadvertently omitted. whoever last month in a speech who railed against the quote, nastiness and quote what lies directed toward him. der, are now by our justice correspondent, just cash snyder, also a former federal district judge, johnny jones, the third and former federal prosecutor, elie honig. so jessica, what more do we know about these additional trips now that thomas took on harlan crow is plain yeah. >> so the details just being released tonight from senator dick durbin, the details are several new trips happened in 2017, 2019, and 20 hey, 21. so first and may 2017, justice thomas took harlan crows jet from st. louis to montana, and then to dallas. then there was a march 20 in the 19 flight where he flew roundtrip between washington, dc and savannah. and then in june 2021, he flew round trip between washington, dc and say in jose, california. all of this on crows jet. and really interesting. i mean, these newly revealed flights, it only adds to what we know were other luxury trips that justice thomas enjoyed bankrolled by harlan crow. there was also that 2019 trip to indonesia where justice thomas stayed on crows mega yacht. so there have been a lot of previously undisclosed travel that's been gifted by harlan crow is a gop megadonor. he's active and conservative causes. justice thomas, though, i'll note anderson has always described him as just a deer friend and says they've never had any discussions about cases before the court. >> they've wow, i mean, that's you you're hanging out with the justice supreme court. that's kind of amazing to think, has justice thomas explained? why he did not disclose these these trips, because he talks about his love of staying in rv power bi travel and draw them ran on a bus yeah. >> so he hasn't directly answered about these recent disclosures, but as attorney just really the statement tonight, it says this it says the information that harlan crow provided to the senate judiciary committee fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be disclosed by justice thomas, the judicial conference change this provision last year and justice thomas has fully complied with the new disclosure requirement so i'll expand upon this to really explain it up until last year there was in fact this personal hospitality exemption. so justices in the way they read it, didn't have to disclose certain benefits, maybe from their wealthy friends, things like when they stayed at their friends properties or traveled on jets. >> it was just last year anderson that exemption was removed so justices now have to disclose these perks, but there's some question as to whether the disclosures need to be retroactive. >> there's nothing specifically saying justices have to go back back now and disclose the years worth of trips but it is still coming out and it came out tonight from the senate judiciary committee, judge jones, does this make sense you why wouldn't justice thomas just come clean about everything harlan crow has given him or paid for. >> why go through this? drip drip, drip anderson. >> i have no idea but this has all the allure of a slow motion car accident it doesn't look good. i toiled in the federal judiciary for 20 years and i love it. i respect it, but this tears of the fabric the code of ethics that the justices are subject to, which is, by the way, not enforceable says in the first canon that it is there to basically preserve the integrity and the independence of the judiciary now under the circumstances to the point that was just made he amended his 2023 ethic statement and he added a couple of his trips. when you go to the question of retroactivity, i agree it's less than clear so why would you do that and not include the other trips they're just revealed there's no good answer to that i mean, do you agree with the statement from thomas's attorney saying that because the personal hospitality exemption, he didn't need to not at all, the spirit of these rules is disclosure and these are not just small gifts, these are gifts and donations, but gifts worth tens and hundreds, thousands of dollars. and the whole explanation that this is just a friend doing something for me. >> i mean, i gotta get better friends that this is something more than just a friend paying for his friend, hundreds of thousands dollars over the year for private school tuition for flights, for hotels. it violates every cannon in this ethics code. and if you remember, anderson, about a year ago, the supreme court for the first time ever adopted an ethics code. the criticism we made was it's toothless and i think now we're seeing that judge jones i mean go ahead, judge got why i was going to say it's interesting to ellie's point about having a friend. >> here's the acid test, and this is not hard and it's not in the he has statement of ethics at all. if you are making a friend because you're on the supreme court of the united states. if that's why this guy is friends with you, then i would suggest to you that if he's providing hospitality, that's just wrong? it just shouldn't happen. and i don't think that's a hard a hard test for any justice or judge to observe if i had done this as a district judge, us district judge, i would have been absolutely subject to judicial discipline of the the most pronounced kind. and i would have deserved it and so to me there's if clarence thomas was sitting on the circuit court or was the head of the eeoc. do you think that harlan crow would for him this kind of hospitality? of course he would judge jones. >> thank you. elie honig. jessica schneider, as well. just ahead. present. biden, promoting democracy on the world stage with ukraine and making a campaign in issued home from us ambassador to the un, susan rice joins us next carney isolde, it's got an answer them. >> that's what i said. >> god-man, salah got gotten me juicy salah and use you don't roll on rows shop etsy, anytime for friday richer lighting and other thoughtful pieces made by real people to bring a little something extra to the ordinary find handmade items that add, wow do your walls help you party set up, pop and new things to help you fall in love with your family room again when you want one of a kind items to give your home a little refresher, etsy has it why choose asleep numbers smart bad? 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>> like why wouldn't he then just ask now for for that to happen well, that's a good question. >> i understand. no, of course it doesn't make sense. it's bluster. it's, it's all dishonest and every day we hear something a dishonest out of donald trump's mouth that is inherently self-serving and not anything we can rely on its you don't just get to wave a magic wand and have a dictator who's hell-bent on not only taking over ukraine, but western europe. and more if we the allow him. and what is donald trump's say donald trump calls putin a genius donald trump tells putin that he can do whatever he wants. the hell he wants with our nato allies. i mean, it's the height of recklessness self-interest, and danger, and it's not a future that we can be confident in at all it would undermine our security profoundly at a time when the world is a complicated place, when you were us ambassador to the un, you obviously dealt with nations whose meters disregard laws, carry out vendettas against their political opponents when you hear don't trump talking about getting revenge or retribution does that seem? i mean that seem realistic to do believe he would do that i do believe he would do it. >> i believe we have if we have learned anything, we should listen to what he says and what he does is often exactly what he says and sometimes worse. we have in donald trump, a leader who is not running to be the president of the american people. he's it's running for his own self-interest to try to stay out of jail and that is incredibly worrying. and when he says that on day one, he intends to be a dictator that he will come after his political opponents. and anybody who has rubbed him the wrong way, i take that very seriously and i think we all should. >> susan rice. thank you for your time. >> thank you. anderson. >> next to cnn exclusive, been wiedemann talks with hamas spokesman in beirut about the remaining hostages they are holding captain i've been gaza. he asked them how many are still alive and why hamas is yet to agree to a ceasefire. his responses coming up hi guys, bill, you look great. now that i have inspire, i'm free from struggling with the mask and the hose fire inspires of sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with a click of this button where you go. >> i'm going to get inspired and learn more and the important safety information at inspire sleep.com. number space and leg room that's more like it three role alexis dx sail through the heart of historic cities, an unforgettable scenery with faking unpack once get closer to iconic landmarks. loca life and cultural treasures because when you experienced europe on a viking long ship, you will spend less time getting there and more time being there viking exploring the world, income perfect. >> billy the kid, it's trying to take over the town. >> what it needs is clean it up. >> they've appointed in your sheriff pat garrett i mean, something to you. sure. does use the royal billy knows your job to haunt them down. >> a law doesn't take this ain't a game for me it was had trouble losing weight and keeping same discovered the power of week-old in the mind the gobi, i lost 35 pounds as some lost the war, 46 pounds we go and i'm keeping the weight off. we go be helped you lose weight and keep it off i'm reducing my risk. >> we go v is the only fda approved weight management medicine that's proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events and adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight, we go vision be used for semaglutide or glp-1 edison's don't take we go he if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type two or allergic to it stopped. >> we go we and get medical help right away. if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction, serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. we go we may cause low blood sugar and people with diabetes, especially actually if you take medicines to treat diabetes, tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest, depression or thoughts of suicide may occur, call your provider right away you have any mental changes, common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. >> would we go i'm losing weight, keeping it off and i'm lowering my cv risk check your cost and coverage before talking to you. >> your healthcare professional about we go if you're shopping for a home realtor.com only shows you homes for sale source directly from professionals, meaning you can try trust every home listing is a realistic don't all have to do that. not really. trust the number one app real estate professionals trust. let's get the rest of these plants organic soil from miracle grow has grown me the best garden i have ever had. good soil and you get good results this soil will blow you away. it's the martha stewart of soil our biggest challenge uncertainty hidden fees, surcharges. who knows what to expect turned shipping to your advantage, keep it simple with clear upfront pricing, with us ps grounded vantage with priceline vip family. you can unlock deals five times faster. you don't even have to be an actual family. >> i'd be the dad on the day physically, it's clear that i'm the dad. >> okay. so which data is pain? >> you're i'm kevin lip ttac at the white house. and this is cnn that is rescued israeli hostage noa argamani were united with her father last saturday, a long awaited hug that she and three other hostages were rescued in an israeli military special operation all of them kidnapped by hamas from the nova music festival eight months ago. >> benny gantz, who quit israel's war cabinet last week, sent today in israel tv interview that israel know about how many hostages are still alive in gaza? say how many were, but that israel knew a quote, very close number. this comes on the backdrop of going ongoing ceasefire negotiations and now tonight is seen an exclusive, a senior hamas official talk today with cnn has been wiedemann in beirut they discussed the hostages, though hamas refuses to use that word and efforts to reach a ceasefire. here's ben's report since 7 october last year when hamas militants streamed into israel killing hundreds of grabbing hostile the war in gaza has been an unrelenting nightmare. >> death and destruction talks to end the war are once again bogged down as every day the death toll mounts in beirut, we spoke to senior hamas leader osama hamdan, one of the few privy to details of this ceasefire negotiations but not privy. he claims to the condition of the 120 hostages still in gaza how many? hey of those 120 are still alive? >> i don't have any idea about that. no one has any idea about this. >> the wall street journal recently reported that messages from gaza, hamas leader, yeah. sinwar to mediators and other hamas it's officials included one in which he allegedly said the deaths of civilians in gaza is a necessary sacrifice. how i'm done insists the messages or fake after eight months of this war, more than 37,000 palestinians have been killed, probably more, more than 80,000 injured was it a necessary sacrifice for the people of gaza you'll seem that count star from the beginning. >> let's start from beijing on. but one, y, two out talk about the base of 7 october. what about the israeli cubic what came after? good luck well, the 7 october, it was a reaction against the occupation what comes after that? it shows the real face of israel. it shows how israel is a coupon let's see and lan's demolishing the situation of the palestinians, killing the civilians. it's not the first time they are killing the civilians hamas is, is an organization, does it regret? >> what it did on 7 october, given what happened afterwards? >> we are living with this for the last 75 years as palestinian. >> now, cnn spoke to one of the doctors who treated the four israelis who were freed on saturday. and he said that they suffered mental and physical abuse then what do you say that when he is an israeli has to say, what does lay authorities are asking him to say if you compare the let me just of both before and after releasing, you will find that they were a better than before. >> i believe if they have mental problem. this is because of what is right and i have done in gaza but in addition to what has been said about the four recent hostages freed, there have been also claims about the dire conditions others faced while in captivity. >> the fate of the remaining hostages hangs in the balance at the g7 summit in italy us secretary of state antony blinken said hoping hamas would agree to the latest us backed ceasefire proposal response. >> we got was unfortunately not the yes that we were looking for or a yes that virtually the entire world has given okay. >> mr. hamdan, simple question. why hasn't hamas yet agreed officially to the us? fact proposal for a ceasefire. >> we said it's a positive step but we need to see the facts on the ground. we need to know what exactly the president means by saying the ceasefire and with the draw. well, what is left? >> what do you need we need an israeli a clear position from israel to accept the ceasefire, a complete withdrawal from gaza and let the palestinians too the ton of mine their future by themselves are you optimistic at this point in time that you will reach some sort of agreement well, i think if watch this administration acted in the positive way, seeing the situation not only in the eyes of israel we can reach soon an agreement and in the absence of an agreement, this war, goes on. we know sight then i mean, this hamas leader justifies the october 7 attack by hamas and islamic jihad and others, which was a violation of an ongoing ceasefire, claimed, no one knows how many hostages are still alive if obviously there are people who know in hamas, any claims that the released, that the hostages who were freed just recently, the four hostages, that there actually better off than they were before they were taken into captivity. i mean, that's just absurd that's what he said. >> but you need to look at it through the lens of how it's been seen. in the region. anderson there lot of pictures circulating sort of before and after pictures circulating on social media of palestinian prisoners who'd been freed from israeli jails. the pictures show healthy people going in gaunt, sickly people looking out. no. mr. hamdan? unlike millions of other in this region, are seeing the pictures of these for israelis who were recently freed from gaza, who on the surf base surface superficially look to be okay. >> so that seems to be why he's saying this and we're hearing it from me any other people as well, keep in mind also that osama hamdan is a political figure in hamas. he is involved in the negotiating process process, but he's not part of the military wing that holds the hostages in gaza, so he's probably not completely up on the situation and their and i think what you're hearing in that interview is more a reflection, perhaps social media, then his knowledge of the specifics of the hostages themselves, anderson, where did she refuses even call hostages, but been wiedemann thank you. i appreciate it. we'll be right back if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with parsi mega because there places you'd like to be for seeker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar a rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur, stopped taking four sika and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or keeping the lesser doses is bad. >> debt holding me back only way ambitions all in one low fixed rates far left, 100 k no fees required. so phi get your money, right towns built on revenge. >> my job is to avoid a war is dropping we're the same brief stream, mayor of kingstown and other hit series exclusively on paramount plus three body no serie a city client uses city's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep it supplied my chain moving some more pet parents can get everything they need, right when they need it keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our class hands forward for the love of progress you're calling some people find there's at an early age, others later in life are calling was to build trucks. >> and that's why trucks are what we do we put our everything and every truck so that when you find your calling nothing can stop you from answering now, during the ram, make this the summer event, get $1,000 cash allowance plus finance and get no monthly payments for 90 days on the purchase most 2025 ram 1,500 trucks how could anyone possibly know that every single one of these pistachios is guaranteed to be wonderful by reading right here. >> wonderful pistachios or the pistachios are wonderful, but the word wonderful on them dad is a legend and his legendary moves might be passed down to you ancestry, dna can show you which traits were inherited where they came from and who he shares them with? 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