today on "inside politics," four-hour pauses. the white house says israel agreed to stop its attacks on hamas for four hours every day to allow aid to get in and civilians to get out of gaza. plus fighting for second place, five republican candidates make their case to voters on the debate stage. they trained most of their fire on each other rather than the far and away front runner. can anyone breakthrough? and a cnn exclusive, kevin mccarthy is speaking out. his message to aid republicans responsible for removing him as speaker, we'll give you a hint. it's not friendly. i'm dana bash. let's g behind the headlines and "inside politics." i want to start with a major development? in the israel-hamas war. the white house says iz rattle will begin four-hour daily pauses in gaza. this announcement came minutes before prime minister benjamin netanyahu release d a statement saying there would be no cease-fire without the release of hostages held by hamas. jeremy diamond is live in tel aviv. what are you hearing? >> reporter: the white house's national spokesperson saying that israel will begin implementing four-hour pauses in areas of northern gaza in order to allow for humanitarian assistance to flow in and to allow civilians to flee the area. he said that israel would i announce the timing of these pauses three hours ahead of time, and also this comes as the u.s. has brought significant pressure to bear on israel to increase its focus on the humanitarian situation in gaza and to take more care as it relates to civilians in the gaza strip. but the israeli prime minister's office, i just got off the phone with a spokesman who is reiterating that statement. there will be no cease-fire until a significant number of hostages are released. what the israelis are saying is they are establishing these evacuation corridors for civilians. also four hours, but these corridors have been already going on since sunday. for the last five days, we have watched as israeli troops have established these evacuation corridors for civilians to flee from northern gaza to the south and these corridors have lasted about four hours. they have been extended yesterday as well as today for some additional hours. yesterday about 50,000 civilians fled from the north to the south using these court torts according to both the military as well as u.n. monitors. so we have to kind of read between the lines here and some of the politics that are at play. the israeli prime minister does not want to use the term cease-fire. dehe doesn't want to use humanitarian pauses he has expressed an openness to little tactical pauses, as he has termed them. the white house wants to show that it is acting as it relates to these humanitarian pauses and also believes that talking about humanitarian pauses will help the negotiations that are happening in qatar over these hostages to be released. they believe this will help those negotiations along. and so at the end of the day, what seems clear is for the last several days, israelis have been pausing their military operations in gaza to allow civilians to flee. it appears they will continue to do that. perhaps there's a formalization of that as the white house characterizes these pauses. either way, they are essentially talking about the same thing. >> they are. and appropriately for a show called "inside politics," you just described the domestic politics for both the united states for president biden and prime minister quite well. thank you for doing that. appreciate it. turning now to what is happening in the 2024 race. last night's republican debate, nikki haley, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy and tim scott were there. donald trump was once again not. one big issue, how to talk about abortion. tuesday's election results showed once again that most americans do not want abortion bans. so does the gop need a better message? has nikki haley cracked the code? or will any amount of messaging change the fact that many just don't like that abortion policy. >> i don't judge anyone for being pro choice, and i don't want them to judge me for being pro life. some states are going on the pro choice side. i wish that wasn't the case, but the people decided. lelgts focus on how to save as many babies as we can and support as many moms as we can and stop the judgment. we don't need to divide america over this issue anymore. >> so that was nikki haley. we also want to hear from what her rivals said on that issue, there wasn't consensus. >> we're better off when we can promote a culture of life. you have to do a better job on these referendum. all the stuff that's happened, they have been caught flat footed. they have been losing the referendums. >> we need a 15-week federal limit. i would challenge them to join me at a 15-week limit. it's in our nation's best interest. >> i want to bring in our panel to discuss cnn's david chalian, leigh ann caldwell of "the washington post," and ramesh of the national review. thank you for being here. i'm going to start with you from the point of view of you and obviously you come from the national review. what was sort of your overall take away of what you saw last night? >> the overall debate was another crabs in a barrel kind of debate. everybody wants to be the rival to donald trump, and everybody wants to stop everybody else from being that rival. the abortion division was revealing of a party that was not quite figured out how to respond to the post dobbs political environment. i think that nikki haley had a tone on this issue that a lot of republicans are probably thinking that's the right tone to strike. but whether the particulars are there, whether she can go on dodging on some of the policy specific ises, that's another question. >> i'm glad that you mentioned that that was probably one of the biggest understatements that i have heard in that republicans haven't figured out how to talk about abortion. it is a big difference on abortion policy. it was really striking about what you heard from ron desantis. basically going after the pro life movement for not getting it. i talked to tim scott after the debate, asked him about what ron desantis had said. listen to his reaction. >> governor desantis was pretty tough on conservative activists. he called it the pro life community, saying that the pro life community asleep at the switch. and that is in part whys and those antiabortion are losing these ref rent da. do you agree? >> i don't agree. i don't understand why he said what he said. there's no reason to insult the pro life voter unnecessarily. >> it was a head scratching moment and obviously an opportunity for tim scott, who was out there competing in iowa to take advantage of. i would just note it's particular odd because of ron desantis' path and strategy for the nomination, which is it's iowa or bust for him. that's a largely evangelical-driven electorate. this is a very important issue part those voters. so to say the pro life movement is flat footed on this stuff and they have to gt their act together, it seems discourted. >> go ahead. so that's one of the big issues, abortion. another is just the dynamic of seeing nikki haley and ron desantis, in particular, trying to battle it out and find their footing to be in police to be number two to donald trump. it really showed up on the issue of china. >> then we will go and end all formal trade relations with china until they stop murdering americans from fentanyl. >> nikki haley said i wasn't doing. she welcomed them into south carolina, gave them land near a military base, wrote the ciao these ambassador a love letter saying what a great friend this were. >> i brought a fiber glass company to south carolina, but you are the chair of your economic development agency that as of last week, said florida is the ideal place for chinese businesses. >> is that -- talk about why this. >> well, there's a movement around the country and conservative states to pass lus or do something to prevent chinese investment in those particular states. that was the crux of the conversation. but it is an attempt to outtalk each other within the republican party on this issue of china. and so taking a step back if this debate there's two primaries that are hpg in the republican primary. you have the donald trump primary, where he's all alone, and then you have this other primary happening, where they are doing normal things like campaigning in early states, debating on issues. but they are not intersecting. and so the challenge for these candidates is to try to enter into the donald trump primary. they haven't been able to. one of the most telling things about the biggest thing that came out of this debate was howdy provided the republican party is on issue, and that was going to a moment, even if these people aren't the republican primary candidates, that democrats are going to continue to use. >> no question about that. vivek ramaswamy, i think, was kind of try ing to do that, but also trying to appeal to the youth voters when he really went after nikki haley, not her, but by doing so, invoked her daughter. listen to what happened and then my question to him afterwards. >> the last debate she made fun of me for joining tiktok. her own daughter was using the app. >> leave my daughter out of your voice. >> the next generation of americans are using it. that's actually the point. you have supporters propping her up. that's fine. here's the truth. >> you're scum. >> why bring up somebody's family member. isn't that a little bit of a blow below the belt? >> no, because it's not a sin for a young person to be on tiktok. the error is somebody lecturing the rest of the country about the perils of it while failing to set an example of leadership a little cloerz to home. >> i think that we can easily identify the two candidates on the stage who dislike each other the most. i think that people under normal circumstances would react negatively to the name calling that haley engaged in, but under these circumstances a lot of people are going to understand it. >> we have to talk about what you mentioned, which is there is a front runner. his name is donald trump. he did have an event at the same time, approximately, in southern florida. let's listen to what he said. >> it's time for the republican establishment to stop wasting time and resources trying to push weak and ineffective never-trumpers that nobody wants and nobody is going to vote for. they are not watchable. the last debate was the lowest rated debate in the history of politics. so therefore, do you think we did the right thing by not participating? >> now you might ask what were the candidates who were on the stage saying a about him? >> i'll say this about donald trump. anybody who is going to be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot lead this party or this country. >> i can talk about president trump. i can tell you that i think he was the right president at the right time. i don't think he's the right president now. >> he owe it is to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance. >> i assume that you agree, there's two pearl universes. >> the 2024 primary is settled, but the 2020 election isn't. there's something particularly ridiculous about this pop list say ing we don't need the peopl to vote. >> i think also we just have to realize because of the nature of how these two universes are not intersecting, these debates are not going to be helpful in bringing that together. and i don't think a lot of the traditional back and forth of messaging on the trails. we're coming to a point 67 days before iowa, where it's like mainly the desantis and haley campaigns have to prove themselves on the ground organizing voters, to see if they can overtake trump or get close enough to alter the dynamics of this race. that's the phase of this cam pain we're in now. >> before we go, i just want to play another moment, very interesting moment from last night during the debate. vivek ramaswamy came out hot. he went after the rnc chair saying she should resign and she's responsible for the gop losing. also criticized her for even holding the debate with some news organization other than a conservative one. i asked her about that. >> i have to ask you first about what vivek ramaswamy said. he went after you personally. >> he did. i'm not going to do that. i'm always going to focus on the democrats. i will say this. this republican on republican infighting, i'm not running for president so i'm not in the primary, it isn't helping our party. if you can't take a tough question, you probably shouldn't be running for president. >> mic drop emoji. >> with a spiel and in heels. everybody standby. pretty soon joe biden is going to arrive in illinois hoping to drum up momentum for his reelection campaign. can he beat back the political head winds? we'll talk about that next and see what he saysys about thahat questition. a short time ago, president biden addressed for the first time a string of recent polling that set off alarm bells among democrats showing him trailing donald trump in multiple swing states . >> obviously, the chopper was very loud. he was less loud. he blew it off in saying he's not worried about it. he made the comments before heading to illinois, where he will be working to sell weary americans on his economic agenda. he's going to be at analongside union workers. priscilla alvarez is live in belle va deer with more. you have been talking to your josources about how they are really dealing with the struggles that it he's having on the political front, despite what they are saying publicly. >> reporter: that's right. they are remaining confident. they point to the strong showing on tuesday, where they had a lot of wins and gains. and also, pointing to the fact that polls are polls. here in illinois, the president is going to be selling his economic agenda before a friendly crowd. that's union workers. union workers buoyed the president's bid in 2020. that's who he is appealing in the months to come. notably, the president is going to meet with the uaw president. they have not endorsed anyone yet, but recall, the president went to the picket line during the uaw strike, and sources i talked to say that the president's actions are moving in the right direction for that possible endorsement by going to the pickett line, by administration actions that led to the reopening of plans. and also that standing with the president today is support in and of itself. so that is what the president is going to be focusing on today. but zooming out here, this is illinois. it's a state that the president won and it's also where political head winds are converging and border security, where tensions have flared up as migrants have been arriving to chicago. >> illinois, not a swing state. thank you so much. appreciate it. our panel is back with us. it is interesting to see that he does need to really court union workers, really court voters, i should say, who are more and more going the donald trump route. they came back a bit when he was on the ballot in 2020, but they are concerned about it. >> they are absolutely concerned about it. given the polls, they should be concerned about it. what's interest ing is what happened on tuesday, where democrats did relatively well, especially in some swing states. virginia, even some placess in new york, kentucky, and why there's such a disconnect between president biden's polling and how voters have performed in this midterm election. democratic sources i talked to said voter when is it comes down to it, when they have to push that button in the voting booth, they like the democratic policies and like the democratic ideas. they can take out their frustration in polling k questions, but they are not necessarily going to do that when they vote. we'll see how that stands next year when boiden is at the top f the ticket. >> along with a guy named donald trump on the top of the ticket for the other party. biden team is relying on that contrast opinion t. they think it's going to be sufficient enough to heal a lot of these woes. they point to the fact what you see in the polling, he's experiencing diminished support among democratic base constituencies. african-american voters, young voters, latino voters, and they think they will have an easier time trying to bring them back into the fold than if they are on some huge campaign to convert people that would otherwise be not be included. it's a lot of ifs. president biden's tone in response to the polling was quite different than vice president harris when she went before microphones and cameras, which they are doing more this week. she said, we have our work ahead of us to get out there and make this case. she was not dismissive of it. she was acknowledging of it. it's interesting he took a different approach. >> i think that the optimistic gloss on the elections shows that these polls about boiden ae misleading about the actual outcomes. but the pessimistic way of looking at it for biden is, no, it shows there's a problem personalized to joe biden. it's not the democratic party is in bad shape, it's that he personally is in bad shape. >> i totally agree with that. i think clearly, it's not just tuesday night's results that's the latest evidence. special elections this year, the better than expected performance in the midterms last year, this is a democratic party that is not having a brand problem with the american people. that's pretty clear from how people are voting. but joe biden does have a problem with him standing with the american people. in addition to the angst about the economy, which is a big part of it, it's also his age. we see that there. that's something he can't do anything about. >> there's nothing he can do about that. but what they are trying to do inside his world is try to amp up the argument, the message that the vice president talked about, which they believe is getting lost about all of the policies that he has in place that workers should like. listen to what the illinois governor said about that. >> jobs have been saved, jobs have grown as a result of what the president did to help reach an agreement. uaw with the auto makers, we're very pleased. i must say the workers there, the families have benefitted from the fact that we have the most pro worker president probably in history, but certainly in my lifetime. >> he's not wrong. every single democrat i talk to say in their state, they are seeing job growth. they are seeing plants opening. there are all sorts of things that the congress and president have signed into law that is coming online, but politics is also about perception. and voters don't see that. they don't feel that. when they still go to the grocery store and it's still more expensive, that's what it comes down to. >> which is why they are out trying to change the perception, which is what politics is also about. thank you so much. up next on the record, a new interview. manu raju spoke with a pretty angry kevin mccarthy, who slams the republicans who forced him out of his speakership, especially a certain congressman from florida. c'mon, we're right there. c'mon baby. it's the only we need. go, go, go, go! ah! touchdown baby! -touchdown! are your neighbors watching the same game? yeah, my 5g home internet delays the game a bit. but you get used to it. try these. they're noise cancelling earmuffs. i stole them from an airport. it's always something with you, man. great! solid! -greek salad? exactly! don't delay the game with verizon or t-mobile 5g home iall right, tandy, on the what's it gonna be,. the drink made from whatever was laying around, or the one made with your drizzly haul? drizly! stock up today, sip well, tomorrow. drizly. now to a cnn exclusive. more than a month after being ousted from the speakership, kevin mccarthy is still railing against the eight republicans who forced him out. cnn's manu raju spoke exclusively to the former speaker this morning. it sounds like he was shy and retiring and really didn't want to say what was on his mind. >> reporter: not quite. he's very clear he is still very much upset with those eight republicans who pushed him out. he's kept his powder mostly dry since mike johnson was elected speaker not too long ago, but he made clear it's fresh on his mind the efforts led by matt gaetz, and he was concerned about two congressmen in particular, one of tennessee, he was surprised by his vote, but he also said that nancy may, sunshine who hailed from south carolina, she does not deserve to be reelected. >> how much will the republican party benefit if matt gates were no longer a member of the house? >> tremendously. people have to earn the right to be here. i just think, he will admit to you personally, doesn't have a conservative bend in his philosophy. and just the nature of what he focuses on. >> do you think the house should consider expelling him? >> that's up to the conference, but i don't believe the conference would ever heal if there's no consequences for the action. >> what about that surprised you? >> it just seemed out of nature. they seemed to have changed during the time. they care a lot about press, not about policy. so they seem to just want the press. >> do you think mace will have a difficult time winning reelection now? >> not because of this. if you watched, just her philosophy and the flip flopping, don't believe she wins reelection. i don't think she will probably have earn ed the right to get reelected. i think you look at the district itself. >> so in response, these members shooting back at the former speaker. matt gaetz saying, thoughts and prayers to the former speak er s he works through his grief. i asked nancy about all this. she said that she stands by her vote. she attacked mccar thi for lying all the time to her. and also tim, who said that kevin mccarthy is just bitter and he said that he will enter into a successful job in lobbying. you're seeing that no love lost here between the former speaker, as he's adjusting to the new role as a rank and file member, someone who is not in the room, nort dealing with a potential crisis. one that ended his speakership not too long ago when he relied on contractic votes to advance a short-term spending bill, but making clear that those eight republicans are still fresh on his mind. >> and will be for a lock time. thank you so much. appreciate it. i love how he spoke about nancy and her race and saying she will probably lose, as if there's any chance he will be a passive observer in what happens to her. he still has money. he still has clout. it's had hard to imagine hen won't get involved in that primary. >> right, whether it's public involvement or a very private behind the scenes involvement. we know that happens too. where it's not so obvious of the things being done. but look, kevin mccarthy is still angry. he did not go quietly. even when they were still in the process of electing speaker, he was still trying -- he was still running for speaker, trying to pull votes away from johnson toward himself. so this is going to be a very long process for this house to repair itself. they are in kind of a couple buyuate moment, but they do not know how long this is going to last. >> house republicans? >> i think it's going to be pretty short lived. they cant make it through a conversation with manu raju with that feeling still intact. i think that the tensions are all still there. they are under the surface. they are not very far under the surface. and we may the well because of this honeymoon be able to get through without a government shutdown in the near term, but you have to figure that there's only one such incident that johnson can get through before he loses the support from some of the same people for whom no realistic deal is ever going to be good enough. >> i can't way wait to see the full interview. certainly, nowhere in the bites we played so far was any kevin mccarthy acknowledgment of any actions he took to get him to this position, i don't know if he does that, but we all saw how he became speaker and had to agree to that deal. and he made his bed. i know he only wants to focus on the eight, but obviously, mccarthy has to be aware in the back of his mind how it got there. >> and the challenge for the current speaker, he's already running into this. he started week three. this week alone, he had to pull two funding bills from the floor because he doesn't have the votes to pass it. he's still learning the different ideologies of his conference from the far right to the swing state republicans. he might be able to keep the government open because of this grace period that he is in, but passing those funding bills and what comes next is probably going to be the bigger challenge for him. >> governing is hard. particularly, when you have a conference where you have a lot of people who don't really care about it. they just want to be -- i don't mean that even as a negative. they didn't come to make the wheels of government work. they came to disrupt. >> and you have a tiny majority. if you have a small majority that's cohesive, you can govern. if you have a large majority, you can put up with some division. small and fractious is not a formula for success. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. you can see more of manu raju's interview this sunday on "inside politics" starting at 11:00 a.m. eastern. coming up, can democrats stale win races in rural states? they did in kentucky and there are lessons to be learned. in fact, we're going to talk to governor beshear's campaign manager about that, next. tonight kentucky made a choice. a choice not to move to the right or to the left, but to move forward for every single family. as choice to reject team r or team d, and to state clearly that we are one team kentucky. >> that's kentucky's new ly reelected governor andy beshear. he's a democrat in a ruby red state, and was one of several wins for democrats on tuesday night. now the question becomes can other democrats, including president biden, reply his v victory locking ahead to the next election in 2024. andy beshear's campaign manager and democratic strategist joins me now. thank you for being here. congratulations on tuesday's win. he now has shown the country twice that a democrat can win in a red state. kentucky is a place where donald trump won by 26 percentage points. what part of that message do you think resinated most with kentuckyiens. >> he show us and he genuinely cares about them. and he has not tried to move to the right or left, but just move it forward and got some very big things done. things like income tax, sports betting, medical marijuana, and voters appreciated that. i think the second thing is you saw a rejection of the anger politics. and that is very good for kentucky and the country overall. we are up against not just the campaign, but five republican superpacs that were running gross, very false attacks, and that backfired and was rejected by voters. that's a very good thing. >> you not only ran this last campaign with governor beshear successfully, you also ran steve bullock's campaign in montana, a democrat as well. you were the biden campaigns's director in michigan in 2020. you know how democrats can get elected in red states or battle ground states. the president is now trailing in several of those states, including michigan. how does he win them back? >> well, look. i think democrats, we have shown that democrats can win swing states and tough states when you show up, you do a good job and people know you care. what we also did here, we ran very hyperlocalized messages, highlighting jobs a announcements, infrastructure projects, ads in every sort of market and really communicated to voters that the things that andy beshear was doing as governor was directly impacting their lives. >> is that possible on a national level? >> yeah, i think you can make things very granular and tangible and voters, when they are voting for executives, they want to know you're going to care for them and are fighting to make their lives better. i think andy beshear and steve bullock showed you could do that and overcome electorates in environments that favor the other party when voters understand that you really care about them. >> governor beshear's victory speech on tuesday night was interest ing because he thankeda young woman named hadley. she was featured in one of your campaign ads. i want to play that for our viewers. >> i was raped by my stepfather after years of sexual abuse. i was 12. anyone who believes there should be no exceptions for rape and incest could never understand what it's like to stand in my shoes. this is to you, daniel cameron. to tell a 12-year-old girl she must have the baby of her stepfather who raped her is unthinkable. i'm speaking out because women and girls need to have options. daniel cameron would give us none. >> how central was that to your campaign and will it be the issue of abortion going forward in 2024? >> yeah, first off, it did show that abortion on the ballot. i want to say that hadley is a remarkably brave and courageous young woman who came forward and put a face to a very real world scenario. i think that ever since dobbs, the script has been total ly flipped. democrats use to spend decades in red states not hiding in a corner, afraid of their own shadow. we showed that now post dobbs, labels don't matter. you can call yourself pro life or pro choice, but like the real world implications here are that 12-year-old girls who are raped and impregnated, do you think or not think they should be forced to give birth? overwhelming vast majority, 85% of kentucky voters, we know say no, that's crazy and cruel. so we would hear all the time from republican conservative voters that say, look, i consider myself to be pro life. but it's crazy and cruel to force someone to do that. >> so interesting, which is why donald trump is trying to take this issue off the table for him. thank you so much for joining us. congratulations again on your win on tuesday. hope to see you again soon. >> thank you very much. up next, lights, camera, back to action. the hollywood actors strike is finally over after four months on the picket line. we're going to go live to los angeles for all the details, next. all right. 60 seconds to draw the perfect gift. what's it gonna be? a bottle of don julio, 1942, delivered. delivered with drizly. gifting without the guessing. drizly. you're probably not easily persuaded to switch delivered with drizly. gifting without the guessing. mobile providers for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big 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and specifically minimum wages. benefits. the streaming bonuses. but then there's also the ai protections. that was really one of the sticking points, something that was negotiated up until the very end and something that actors were truly concerned about, not knowing what was going to happen to their work in just a few years because of artificial intelligence. we do not have the details of the contract. that is going to go to union, the union board tomorrow. so we will have more details then. the actors will have to vote to ratify. but in the meantime everyone, dana, is just so happy to hear that there is a deal. >> no question about it. camila, thank you so much for that reporting. thank you for joining "inside politics." 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