momentous trials for american officials. for this one you have to go back over 2,000 years to 430 bce to the greek tragedy oedipus rex, which traces a story of a king who learns of his future fate and attempts to defy it, an act of hubris, and ultimately seals his fate. the greek worse interested in oracles who might predict the future, a tradition that carries on today when we think of horoscopes or tarot card readings. one of the reasons oedipus as a story endures is because people remain interested in their own future and whether it can be predicted or shaped. oedipus who would eventually cry over his own tragedy begins with a story where he consults a soothsayer and gets a terrible horoscope he tries to avoid,
to see that there are a lot of spiders when you stop, yeah, brooming them away, spiders are always inhabiting the world, have inhabited it much longer than us, no? and to that extent also, it s thinking a little bit about not everybody suffers the phobias of the, sometimes, western world. and that was one of the interests that also we start to collaborate in one of the first rooms of the exhibition is dedicated to pierre bollo, a spider diviner from cameroon, who had this tradition, a militant tradition, to treat the spiders as a source of wisdom, as an oracle. and when the village have some questions, there is a set of cards which are leaves which are carried and then they ask the spider, and the spider will come up, shuffle the cards, and that will be interpreted. and this is kind of a. you know, for india, the cows are holies. and this means there are very different ways of how the world somehow. yeah, there aren t many societies where spiders are holy or sacred, or regarded as or
the world, have inhabited it much longer than us, no? and to that extent also, it s thinking a little bit about not everybody suffers the phobias of the, sometimes, western world. and that was one of the interests that also we start to collaborate in one of the first rooms of the exhibition is dedicated to pierre bollo, a spider divinerfrom cameroon, who had this tradition, a militant tradition, to treat the spiders as a source of wisdom, as an oracle. and when the village have some questions, there is a set of cards which are leaves which are carried and then they ask the spider, and the spider will come up, shuffle the cards, and that will be interpreted. and this is kind of a. you know, for india, the cows are holies. and this means there are very different ways of how the world somehow. yeah, there aren t many societies where spiders are holy or sacred, or regarded as oracles. but i know you ve brought your latest exhibition to london, to the serpentine gallery, and i know that you
he would talk to us he was going through papers and there. he will say this is about this deal, this is a story about this, and it would be a combination of paperwork, oracles, magazines. as he, said that is the kind of stuff that was in there. except once you become president, you have access to classified documents. and top secret documents. and the most secret documents. and when you spent time with him at the white house, did you ever see him dealing with classified information in front of people who did not have security clearances? i didn t. i didn t. the only thing he ever showed me, which i think he showed a lot of, people with the letters he got from kim jong-un. he was very proud of those. but of course what he is alleged to have taken hours much more serious. much more serious. he has had a litany of excuses for why he had these documents, this is just a combination of some of them. you can declassified just by saying it is declassified, even by thinking about it