To investigate what happened in the past and apply its own laws. No one in the new team had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making Television Shows at the time. Iral i also said it is credible to me that he would have been influenced by financial or personal motives in carrying out duties as Vice President. A different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they could buy influence. That is at least plausible given ukraines reputation for corruption. The accusation that he acted independently did not seem credible to me. I connected mayor giuliani and the aide by text lantand later t i phone. They met in person on august 2, 2019. In conversations with me following that meeting which i did not attend, mr. Giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations into what happened in the past and mr. Yermoc stressed, he said it is their position to conduc
is that the correct chain of events here? that s correct. now ambassador volker, in the july 25th call, president zelenskyy volunteers to president trump that rudy giuliani had already spoken with one of his associates and that president zelenskyy hopes giuliani will come to ukraine. he proceeds to mention him on three separate occasions during this call. you testified about a may 23rd meeting in the oval office where the president spoke quite negatively about ukraine and how it would try to take him down. and that he also repeated some of the allegations that mr. giuliani was making. is that correct? yes. okay. and those allegations were in the media, were they not? yes. and during that meeting, president trump told you and ambassador sondland and secretary perry to talk to giuliani. isn t that correct?