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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:21:06:00

The name of patty presba. i saw all the other young men and women there calling her mother, mom. and so, of course, jaime did too. how did she respond? with pure kindness and understanding. jaime felt he had finally found someone he could confide in about his years of abuse. i gave her my whole life story, from beginning to end. i ve given her things that my family doesn t even know about. she made me feel like a man again. never felt like a man before? never felt like a real man before until i talked to her. mind you, patty was every bit of 47, years that had lumped themselves unkindly around her face and frame. but jaime was a baby-faced 21, younger than any of patty s four children. but who can understand the mysteries of love? within weeks, romance bloomed. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:22:02:00

But how could they get to him? he could be anywhere by now. as the detectives dug into jaime s background, they found he was devoted to his grandmother, the woman who raised him. maybe she would know where he was. and i explained to her the situation he was in and the reasoning for me needing to talk to him because, to be honest with you, we knew nothing at that point. she must have been pretty shocked. she was. she was devastated. and within 24 hours i had a phone call from jaime ramos. who, after stalling for a few weeks, finally agreed to return and answer questions in person. but on the day jaime was to meet with them, he was a no-show. instead, detectives lensing and hagis received an urgent phone call. patricia had gone missing. a month to the day after ron s murder, the two detectives were back at the presba house, investigating another strange and violent crime. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:22:10:00

It was dark and i shot him. i was scared he was going to kill me. you fired that gun from in here. patty said he overpowered her, grabbed the gun, told her it was a kidnapping. he said we re leaving. get in the car. he put me in the car. she blamed it on mr. ramos. she blamed the whole thing on mr. ramos, stating she had shot mr. ramos three times because he was attacking her. what caliber of a weapon was this? we later found out it was a .44 magnum. wouldn t that do a whole lot of damage? i would imagine so. but for some reason, the bullets didn t expand and they went right through him. he was lucky. jaime was taken away for medical treatment. as he recovered, he thought about the fake kidnapping, the shooting, the choice of salt lake, even though he was begging patty to drive south to mexico. and he decided that patty probably was trying to set him up to take the fall for ron s murder. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:21:39:00

This is wrong. she said what? you re telling me you don t love me right now. if you re going to do it, do it. and if not, just leave. oh, patty was not finished with jaime. and not with her husband either. coming up, once these two got involved, well, what they had to do was just plain weird. very. when the seduction continues. gives you a 50% annual bonus! so you earn 50% more cash. according to research, everybody likes more cash. well, almost everybody. would you like 50% more cash? no! but it s more money. [ male announcer ] the new capital one cash rewards card. the card for people who want 50% more cash. what s in your wallet? woah! [ giggles ] ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:22:24:00

Kiss that was empty. and now alone at night on the open road when i started to feel dirty. i started to feel ashamed. i wanted to throw up. i felt like i had just desecrated a man for what i started to see now as a selfish reason. and on top of everything, i just damned my soul. jaime fled california that night, leaving behind the woman at whose behest he committed murder. perhaps it wasn t so surprising that he didn t realize he was next. coming up, a date with patty, a very bad date. i m like, patty, what are you doing right now? did you just shoot me? when the seduction continues. whoa. ....

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