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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:22:11:00

But he also decided that maybe, for the love of patty, he would do just that. he went over in his head the story he would tell when detectives came to see him. that i did it, that i m a mad man. but then a faint thought of my family came through, saying, oh, yeah, my family. what is my grandmother going to think? so that s when i started to just say the truth, the way it really happened. and what really happened? the truth? so much stranger than even one of patty s convoluted lies. the truth was more like fantasy, like the plot from one of jaime s movies. there were times during the interview where we had to actually slow him down, because he was he was putting this information out there so quickly, we couldn t even digest it. that never happens. no, it doesn t. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:22:09:00

patty, police discovered, had been stabbed in the arm, and jaime? shot, three bleeding holes in him. i was told that i was 30 minutes or so away from bleeding out. a medic attended to jaime s wounds. a policeman searched the hotel room, found gauze, medicine, hair dye, a handgun, and movies, rambo and diehard. then as they led him across the parking lot to a waiting ambulance, jaime watched patty in animated conversation with a cop. i didn t see her handcuffed. i saw her there talking to a police officer. and then i started to think she gave me up, saying that she was kidnapped. jaime, for once, guessed right. that s exactly the story patty told later that day to detective lensing. it was dark. the lights were off. and i shot him. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111211:21:36:00

by phone. we had prepaid phones for them not to be traceable. you thought about that in advance? yes. who went and bought them? she did. jaime and ron were now alone at the house. the murder was supposed to take place just before nightfall, out by the pig pen. but as the hours ticked down, jaime wavered. if there is any definition of doubt, that s what i was feeling. in the movie that was jaime s life, ron presba was a monster. but this man in front of him now just wasn t. but patty could never have lied. jaime was sure. she never lied. it was all so confusing. she tells me i m supposed to believe, i m supposed to say that it s real. but what i experience i know is real and i saw it firsthand. and they do not meet up in any way or form. and you re about to kill him? and i m about to kill him. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110903:21:12:00

Happened. and what really happened? the truth? so much stranger than even one of patty s convoluted lies. the truth was more like fantasy, like the plot from one of jaime s movies. there were times during the interview where we had to actually slow him down, because he was he was putting this information out there so quickly, we couldn t even digest it. that never happens. no, it doesn t. jaime s story, like none you ve ever heard. all this, i kept telling to myself, this is for her, this is to make her happy. coming up, what he did for love. i put on the gloves, i wiped down the hammer. when the seduction continues. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110903:21:02:00

Young man, what sort of story was she spinning now? i don t think i ll be alive for long. i m telling you, he ll come for me. he ll tell you he s coming here, but he ll kill me first. it was clear now that jaime ramos was the leading man, the key to solving the case, even if he wasn t involved, well, he surely would have known who was. but how could they get to him? he could be anywhere by now. as the detectives dug into jaime s background, they found he was devoted to his grandmother, the woman who raised him. maybe she would know where he was. and i explained to her the situation he was in and the reason for me needing to talk to him, because to be honest with you, we knew nothing at that point. she must have been pretty shocked. she was. she was devastated. and within 24 hours i had a phone call from jaime ramos. ....

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