director of i.c.e. and he joins us now. tom, 700,000, these are over stairs in one year. if nothing else, this figure we have heard for years now but 11 million so-called undocumented immigrants is likely to be something of an underestimate, when do you agre agree? i think that the overstayed visas make up about 40% of the estimate. but it s something we ve got to address. we have asked congress again, the same talking points i ve used for a long time. we ve asked congress to address the visa overstates, to make it a crime to overstate the visa. it s not a crime like entering the united states illegally is a crime. congress can help us by making that a crime and holding people accountable for breaking their promise of leaving the united states. mark: just to be clear on this, we live in a modern, high-tech age. many modern countries such as france and united kingdoms have exit controls. they check you out, as it were.
this figure we have heard for years now but 11 million so-called undocumented immigrants is likely to be something of an underestimate, do you agree? i think that the overstay visas make up about 40% of the estimated 11 to 12 million. but it s something we ve got to address. we have asked congress again, the same talking points i ve used for a long time. we ve asked congress to address the visa overstays, to make it a crime to overstay the visa. it s not a crime like entering the united states illegally is a crime. congress can certainly help us by making that a crime and holding people accountable for breaking their promise of leaving the united states on a temporary visa. mark: just to be clear on this, we live in a modern, high-tech age. many countries such as france or the united kingdom, for example, have exit controls.hi they check you out, as it were. why is it that we presumably know these people have overstayed their visas but
they enter canada. we have a great relationship with canadian law enforcement. this is something we should be working on together.r. i grew up in in upstate new york off the st. lawrence river, thousand islands region. there are places that you don t have 100 feet of vision. it is less than a one-minute boat ride across the a st. lawrence river to get to the united states. it is a hard swath of land to cover. mark: and often those border posts seriously, though, justin trudeau sentimentalizes illegal immigration even more than the democrats do. realistically, working with the canadians isn t going to get too far is it, tom? i think now that they see what happened with the number of refugees that left the united states to go to canada because they are weak, i have talked to canadian immigration authorities, they are concerned. i think for the first time in ae long time, they are looking to see how they can toughen it up.. i went to a law enforcement seminar in new york and i met s
because putin is poisoning and, in fact, killing the citizens of american allies. what do you make of this? yeah, mark, if trump is a russian asset being controlled by putin, he is certainly the worst russian asset in the history of human intelligence gathering. his military wiped out 200 russian mercs on a syrian battlefield. he has led the effort to cut off the nord stream 2 pipeline to economically damage russia. magnitsky has expanded that. we are having conversations like we are rational because we are, but trying to get through the 6-inch thick skull of liberals, who have committed to thiswe russian collusion thing is useless. nothing we say is going to make a difference. facts don t matter anymore. mark: all that stuff you said, dan, all that shows is that the conspiracy just goes deeper than any of us could possibly suspect. thank a lot, dan bongino. the blue wave may be weakening to a blue stream or maybe just a blue trickle.
let s walk through with with ti themselves said. the director said the information was salacious and unverified. the number 2 said they would have no investigation without the dossier. the head of the division in charge of the case said that verification of the dossier was in its infancy, and the lead investigator in the case said that there is no there there. my would you sit down with this guy? this is obviously a trap. he did nothing wrong. mark: like you said, that is logical, and i would buy that if somebody was doing that, but what about the politics of this? half of the company is going to go bananas if trump refuses to sit down with mueller. in other words, is the risk of walking into a perjury trap less than everybody claiming trump has pulled off a coup because he won t sit down with this cockamamie guy who wants to talk about some lousy steele dossier. it s a great point, mark.