in which the attorney general, as neal says, has sort of redefined what the rules are and whether or not mueller should have said whether or not the president committed crimes. will robert mueller see those things that attorney general barr has said as the policy of the justice department that he should follow because they re proclamations by the a.g.? yeah, i think it puts bob in a very difficult spot. i mean, i ve learned to take that man at his word, having worked for him. by the way, his default is taciturn. so the notion that he would do something other than what he already said he would do when he gave his press conference, he said i m not going beyond my report. my report is my testimony. i have nothing to add. i understand that mr. barr opened the door. i get that. but i don t think it s in bob mueller s dna to do it. mmm-hmm. it may not be in his dna, but doesn t he have to? i mean, this is a guy who oversaw this 22-month investigation, didn t reach a conclusion becaus
mueller report and the underlying evidence. it s not surprising. it s very disappointing. do you expect that robert mueller will follow those strictures as laid out by the justice department or do you expect that he will take a similar view of that instruction that you and your chairman have? you know, i i don t know. i think that s the $50 million question right now. you know, bob mueller has shown that, you know, he s very thorough, but he s very much a rule follower and i m just not sure how he s going to view these rules. we know that he was distressed, shall we say, by the way that attorney general barr tried to shape his report and mischaracterize his report. i don t know if that will inform his testimony tomorrow. we are looking forward to hearing his statement, which i understand has not been provided to the department of justice. congresswoman mary gay scanlon, vice chair of the judiciary committee. if a decision changes tonight about aaron zebley and whether he s goin
charged in count ii of the indictment. so say we all, this 23rd day of july, 2019. signed by the foreperson. the judge says, please poll the jury. the transcript notes each juror upon being asked by the clerk, is this your true verdict? answered in the affirmative. the judge then says to the jury, thank you. the defendant may be seated. ladies and gentlemen of the jury, your service has now ended. you are excused with the thanks of the court. and the jury exits at 2:25 p.m. which means the whole thing took four minutes. that was it. guilty on all counts. it had to happen today of all days, right? i mean, even if tomorrow wasn t going to be robert mueller s testimony in congress, there s already a lot going on, right? i mean, today, for example, just tonight we just got a new secretary of defense.
news. well, tomorrow robert mueller himself will be answering questions from the judiciary committee and then from the intelligence committee in the house. it starts early. you should probably be watching by about 8:00 a.m. they re going to gavel the first hearing into play at about 8:30. we know that mueller is going to have prepared opening statements for each of the two committees. we know that he has not provided them to the justice departmentnd advance. he s not providing them to the committees in advance and we re darn sure he s not going to release them to the public in advance. so they re due to gavel in at 8:30. you should probably be watching before that. right up towards the top, mueller will be giving an opening statement. the first one to the judiciary committee committee. we have no idea what he s going to say and nobody else does either. we re going to talk tonight over the course of this hour how the committees are preparing. what they might ask. what they should ask. w
this would be necessary. the report was intercepted and it was misconstrued, the american people were misled and now we have to correct that record. members of the judiciary committee, democrats all who are preparing tonight for what will be a huge moment tomorrow morning as their committee begins questioning at 8:30 in the morning of special counsel robert mueller. joining us now is congresswoman mary gay scanlin. she s newly elected. she s now vice chair of the judiciary committee. congresswoman, thank you very much for joining us. i know you have a lot of things you d rather be doing than talking on tv. well, thank you for having me. so let me ask you about some of the news we ve learned over the course of this hour that we re still trying to make sense of. we ve learned in the last few minutes that in the intelligence committee, in the afternoon after robert mueller s testimony to your committee, aaron zebley, his deputy, described as the