Involvement seems particularly notable. According to the indictment, he played a key role in what appears to be a Pressure Campaign from trump and his co defendant, Valet Walt Nauta and maralago property manager carlos de oliveira, to delete Security Footage from the club after it was subpoenaed by prosecutors. And now, it sure seems like employee 4 could be talking, it turns out, he is an i. T. Worker for maralago named yuscil taveras. According to one new report, taveras himself received a Target Letter from the department of justice after trump was first indicted in florida. But taveras himself has not yet been indicted, and to be clear, as of now, we do not know if taveras is formally cooperating with jack smiths office. That said, as the Washington Post reports, quote, taveras offered information implicating all three defendants in an alleged conspiracy to cover up evidence. And we also know that following trumps indictment, taveras switched lawyers. He was previously represented
Good evening from washington. I am mehdi hasan in for chris hayes. Donald trump could end up behind bars next year for conspiracy to obstruct justice. And if he does, it may very well be because of a new testimony by someone identified by the justice department, only as Trump Employee 4. Now that we have had all weekend to digest the new Superseding Indictment for donald trump from doj special counsel jack smith and the classified documents case, employee number fours involvement seems particularly notable. According to the indictment, he played a key role in what appears to be a Pressure Campaign from trump and his co defendant, Valet Walt Nauta and maralago property manager carlos de oliveira, to delete Security Footage from the club after it was subpoenaed by prosecutors. And now, it sure seems like employee 4 could be talking, it turns out, he is an i. T. Worker for maralago named yuscil taveras. According to one new report, taveras himself received a Target Letter from the departm
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this. do you get the impression that taveras is a cooperating witness at this point? yes, i do. and, you know, well operation is a bit of a turn of art when it comes to criminal law. i think we often think of it as someone who has worked out a plea deal and has agreed to cooperate. it does not appear, to me, that mr. taveras has criminal exposure, that he did everything right. he rejected the request to delete the server. and it appears he is the source of this information that now gears in this indictment. so, it seems to me that he is a witness and not a defendant here, and is likely the person who will testify at trial about these incidents. dick, what do you make of the fact that de oliveira in florida today in court, did not enter a plea? and how much do you think prosecutors are hoping to flip someone like de oliveira at some point? i think today was another delay mechanism. it is almost i m using to think that he brought a lawyer with him all the way from washington,
cross the street to save their lives. in fact, and other telling bits of reporting from nbc news today, one close trump era ally reacted to de oliveira s indictment by responding, quote, who the hell is that? nice. barbara mcquade is a former u. s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan where she once brought significant seditious conspiracy charges against a group. dick gregorie works for the u.s. attorney s office for the southern district of florida where he successfully prosecuted some of miami s most high-profile defendants. both join me now. barbara, what is your take on this. do you get the impression that taveras is a cooperating witness at this point? yes, i do. and, you know, well operation is a bit of a turn of art when it comes to criminal law. i think we often think of it as someone who has worked out a plea deal and has agreed to cooperate. it does not appear, to me, that mr. taveras has criminal exposure, that he did everything right. he rejected the request to