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On this programme before, but this is the first time that youre talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the uns humanitarian Chief Injune this year. Response that we will be facing a situation where people will drift fast it always is fast, its viral with famine into a situation where we cant see whats going on. The good thing about ethiopia, as you remember, was we could see what was happening and it attacked our consciences. Its not happening in sudan. Butjust to be clear, what ethiopia resulted in, it was A Million deaths from famine. So, you are saying that sudan could cause more than A Million deaths from famine . Yes. Yes, of course. And i know its very difficult to comprehend that because we dont really understand famine and we understand it probably less now in many ways than we did then when it was a very imp ....
We hear this every year and wait for the words and message and a year ago certainly was a lot different than the reality on the grounds overseas now. Biden has a few months left for his term. This image will not be easy. A series of major Foreign Policy conflicts breaking out during his term. Afghanistan in 21, ukraine in 22. Israel and gaza in 23. The u. N. Secretary general condemned countries feeling entitled to invade others. Today a growing number of governments and others feel entitled to get out of jail free card. They can thumb their nose at international humanitarian law and can invade another country, lay waste to societies or actively disregard the welfare of their own people. And nothing will happen. Dana Eric Shawn is outside united Nations Headquarters in manhattan. Whats the scene like down there . Yes, ....
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Martin griffiths, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Now, you ve been in that seat on this programme before, but this is the first time that you re talking to us since you stepped down from your role as the un s humanitarian chief injune this year. You have greater liberty, essentially, now to tell us what you think about the situations that you ve seen. May we begin in sudan, which is just one of the crises that you ve dealt with in recent times? it s a civil war that in the last 18 months has put an extraordinary 25 million people in need of support and struggling to survive. You said recently that you thought sudan could be worse than ethiopia in the 1980s. What did you mean? well, sudan is the first place now where famine has been formally declared, as you know, the first place since 2017, because there s 25 million people in need, and we don t know precisely, because of the lack of access to these people, how much in need they are. We think that the ....