joining us now. timothy, when did you realize something was wrong? i started realizing it when everybody started heading toward the stage and us soon as they started jumping, everybody started pushing in and we are so into it, we couldn t move. you literally couldn t move and you are just frozen, stood there. arthel: joe, what did you see, what did you see happening around you? where exactly were you in the crowd compared to the stage? as far as the stage, we were at the very front. we found a rail and as soon as the concert started, concertgoers pushed and we couldn t breathe and we had security and for whatever reason, they were not helping us at all.
they had contracts back and forth. but i m a girl. [laughs] you aren t interested? no! so dull. fall came to salt lake city, leaves yellow and fell. the economic crisis got to them like a black cloud. as a businessman ken dolezsar, chris and david novak continued their hustle and flow. the storm bearing down on them was loaded, not with economic ruin, but something else entirely. i couldn t believe it. and everyone was there, all of our friends and we sat there. we couldn t move. it was like. it was unbelievable. dateline returns after the break. break.
reporter: fall came to salt lake city. leaves yellowed and fell. the economic crisis started toward them like a low black cloud. as a businessman ken zoel czar, chris wright and novak began their hustle and flow. but the storm bearing down on them was loaded not with economic ruin but something else entirely. i couldn t believe it. no one everyone, all of our friends. we sat there. we couldn t move. it was like it was just unbelievable. protect your pet with the #1 name in flea and tick protection. frontline plus. trusted by vets for nearly 20 years.
notably you are not calling for an end to the 2001 measure. i want foam listen people to li reasoning. 2001 that was obama bin laden. you think there is some use for that? yes. i have called for a dramatic revision on the 2001 authorization. we had one last year that would have narrowed it down a lot including specifying that no president could use it to take military action against a sovereign nation. the white house didn t like it, they didn t want their hands tied so they spoke out against it and we couldn t move. but i m very interested in narrowing down 2001. it s been used for too long in too many places against too many groups that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. however, isis and al qaeda still pose a threat to the united states. i know the president wants to say there s no more threat from ice spits that s not what our military believes. i would like to draft a very narrow authorization that would be focused on isis and al-qaeda and it would have a much more
and he went over there and novak was there with ken dolezsar and he introduced them. reporter: ken dolezsar lived in a wealthy enclave just south of salt lake city. a very nice guy by all accounts with a big extended family and money to invest. truckloads of money. he d already loaned novak 1.85 million to make a movie about his prison consulting business. and soon ken and chris began working on a real estate deal. they spoke sometimes and they had contacts back and forth. i m really i m a girl. reporter: and you weren t interested. no. so dull. reporter: fall came to salt lake city. leaves yellowed and fell. the economic crisis started toward them like a low black cloud. as a businessman ken zoel czar, chris wright and novak began their hustle and flow. but the storm bearing down on them was loaded not with economic ruin but something else entirely. i couldn t believe it. no one everyone, all of our friends. we sat there. we couldn t move. it was like it was just unb