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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190101:23:08:00

A shock, of course. but one of two shocks for sandra. and to those around her, the second seemed somehow worse. her beloved son, tom, up and moved to arizona. and she was flipping out about it. yeah. just she had to go there. reporter: she demanded jack move to arizona too. that woman was off her rocker. her tone was just scary. it was like somebody else s voice coming out of her. reporter: but surely that wasn t motive enough for murder? and with plenty of suspicion but little else to go on, wyatt spent months poring over sandra and jack s phone records, bank statements, credit card bills, searching to well, he didn t know exactly what he was searching for. but he was getting basically nowhere. we couldn t establish a pattern that was suspicious. reporter: then as wyatt s investigation sputtered, sandra left. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181105:08:41:00

Suder could use the georgia story about first wife cathy s death 15 years earlier against him. and the defense? dismissed the georgia case out of hand. irrelevant, said todd s attorney. cathy winkler s death was thoroughly investigated, he said. and it was not ruled a murder, because it was not a murder. there s no evidence of anything other than an accident. reporter: todd s attorney was able to explain away the things that had raised suspicion. cathy s family was wrong, said the defense. she loved camping. a ranger who saw them making their dinner way up in this remote spot, so far from any other living soul, said they seemed happy. and the insurance money, remember that? that wasn t motive, just business as usual for a pair of upper-middle class professionals. in addition to the insurance policy of about $1.1 million that cathy had at the time of her death on her own life, he had $1.2 million on his own life. reporter: no, cathy and todd ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181028:05:08:00

And to those around her, the second seemed somehow worse. her beloved son tom up and moved to arizona. and she was flipping out about it. yeah. just she had to go there. she demanded jack move to arizona too. that woman was off her rocker. her tone was just scary. i never even it s like somebody else s voice out of her. but surely that wasn t motive enough for murder. and with plenty of suspicion but little else to go on, wyatt spent months pouring over sandra and jack s phone records, bank statement, credit card bills, searching for well, he didn t know exactly what he was searching for, but he was getting basically nowhere. we couldn t establish a pattern that was suspicious. then as wyatt s investigation sputtered, sandra left. sold jack s house here in california, moved to arizona to ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:08:00

though jack seemed quite happy with sandra, until the spring of 98, that is, just a few months before the murder when jack was diagnosed with colon cancer, a shock, of course, but one of two shocks to sandra. and for those around her, the second seemed somehow worse. her beloved son tom up and moved to arizona. and she was flippin out about it. yeah. she had to go there. she demanded jack move to arizona too. that woman was off her rocker. her tone was just scary. it s like someone else s voice coming out of her. but surely that wasn t motive enough for murder. and with plenty of suspicion with littles to go on, wyatt spent months poring over their bank statements, credit card bills, searching for, well, he didn t know what he was searching for, but he was getting basically nowhere. ....

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