do just that, and less to hunter s involvement off board of a ukrainian company. is that a fair question of biden? at the time, of course, it wasn t a conflict of interest. ukraine was an ally, this is a legitimate company, so there wasn t an issue. the issue became what happened later when people made a deal of it. look, i think that the joe biden has had a bit of an open book about this. reporters have been on this story for a very long time and have found nothing. you had the obama state department back him up in terms of their own interest on this issue, so i don t think this is an issue of whether there s anything there. i think it s really more an issue of whether this constant drumbeat by president trump scares the other candidates a bit and encouraging them to just keep their mouths shut instead of fighting back on vice president biden s behalf.
cop-out. reporter: yeah. ultimately well, and some may say that. if and when the house does choose to vote on articles of impeachment, that s exactly what the senate becomes. you will have essentially 100 jurors. there will be a trial before the senate with the chief justice presiding. some people might call that a cop-out, but at least a technical solution for republicans who don t want to get bogged down on this. now that this is labeled an impeachment-related issue here, it doesn t you can almost make that argument, right, that it s not an intelligence issue, it s not a foreign policy issue if it s an impeachment issue, then republican senators can say, oh, no, i m not going to touch that yet. you can judge that as you will. garrett, stand by. i want to bring in geoff bennett who s on capitol hill for us. different story on capitol hill, we are in the 220s, right, of the number of democratic members
issue. president trump called the leader of a foreign country and tried to get him to help him in the 2020 election. and this is what bob mueller investigated all these funds to see if candidate trump coordinated with the russians. well here you have president trump who is president of the united states putting himself in a very bad position with a foreign leader and asking for help. and then he admitted it. now what we re seeing today as we look at the whistle-blower report, we re seeing increasing evidence that the white house knew that this was it was beyond the pale. and so you see now a cover-up. i think we re only beginning to see the very edge of this cover-up. i think it goes pretty deep within the white house. let s talk a little bit about what the president it s not really alleged now because the los angeles times has a recording of it. the president in new york
hour. ali velshi is here. that would be wild if there wasn t a mention of emoluments in the konsz constitution. even without it. if you look at the way business operates, the way we operate, the way politics operates, you protect against seeming like seeming like. for your own pocket. even if the impression is there you protect against that. this was the danger when people didn t take the emoluments clause seriously when we discussed it. it becomes more and more on normal. we started discussing it the way he was inaugurated, talking about the trump d.c. hotel and it has been a consistent issue ever few months since then. new stories arise, does donald trump, is he working for himself, is he working for the american public, his golf course in scotland the blind trust that s not blind. the air force stopping and staying inviting everybody from the
do now. what do you make of that? it s the same kind of talk we heard during the mueller investigation to intimidate witnesses. what we told dni maguire is you need to do everything you can to protect this whistle-blower and we need to make sure that others who have knowledge of the misconduct at issue are able to come forward to us. as you can tell from our q&a today, there are many witnesses. in fact, there were more than 12 witnesses on the very phone call at issue on july 25th. and they all took notes most likely. so this is something that is very disturbing. i don t like these mafia-like tactics to try to intimidate witnesses which i see as a pattern with our president. congressman good to talk to you. thank you. congressman of illinois a member of the house intelligence committee. coming up breaking news, a letter sent by the pentagon to lawmakers saying ukraine took