state department sent me to ukraine. why is he mentioned in this phone call? he's president trump's personal guy, lawyer, fix it guy, whatever you want to call it. his role in this thing makes it awfully suspicious. >> it's suspicious and he's earned himself a subpoena in front of the congress. i assume his phone will be subpoenaed first since he's waving it around saying the proof is in the phone. and he sent associates to meet in ukraine and we have to talk to them first. there are a lot of things first. i have to say for the record about hearsay, many, many investigations begin with hearsay. that's why we start there and then go to get the witnesses. there's no news there, he's done investigations that's ridiculous. and the number of witnesses need to be interviewed, many before rudy giuliani, who sort of has a dual relationship.