So theyre not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. So were by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. A vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. Yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life thats purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust dont know what to do with this cash . I not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what Health Systems work, which ones dont. I, you know, find the work very fulfilling. I get to learn new things. Get to go to interesting places. Yeah. Theres no sacrifice involved. Its. Well, its quite a lot of financial sacrifice sure, but i dont have any use for that money. I mean, im not denying myself, you know, the worlds best cheeseburger,
hey, we ve got to move fast. we ve got to be tough. you know, we may have missed some very talented people, but, you know, everybody who was there wanted to be there. it was. i bet everyone would describe it as one of the most amazing parts of their life. i wonder, in that context, what you make of and whether or not you look with a wry smile at elon musk s management style. i mean, when you re describing yourself, it makes me think of what i read about musk today. no, iwasn t, you know, going out to the public and insulting the president of the united states or something like that. imean. yeah. but in the sense of driving a company hard, pushing staff, a huge sense of mission and purpose, i mean, that s part of what he s about. well, i didn t run, you know, three companies at a time. so you could say he s more talented than i was. he might say that. i believed in magic of software and, you know, i was focused on that. i wasn t making comments on politicians and every trend of t