So theyre not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. So were by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. A vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. Yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life thats purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust dont know what to do with this cash . I not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what Health Systems work, which ones dont. I, you know, find the work very fulfilling. I get to learn new things. Get to go to interesting places. Yeah. Theres no sacrifice involved. Its. Well, its quite a lot of financial sacrifice sure, but i dont have any use for that money. I mean, im not denying myself, you know, the worlds best cheeseburger,
so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places.
um, and so, yeah, both i think there s some regrets, but, you know, we re moving forward in a very positive way. we have this phrase empty nest syndrome it must be very strange when your kids grow up and leave the house. do you get lonely? you know, i prepared myself very well, thinking, you know, ok, when the kids are gone, i won t get much time with them . partly because of, you know, digital connection you know, i can do video conferences with the kids. you know, my kids are all learning about medicine, they understand the modern world, so they can tell me about things. so, because i set my expectation low, i m always impressed how much time the kids are willing to give me. what s the most important thing you ve learned from your kids? well, you have a certain immortality through your kids that, you know, even things you do that won t have an impact during your lifetime, you want them to have a good life. and so, they, you know, they challenge the work i do. they challenge