Trumps social media, they say, pointing to a post that says if you go after me, im coming after you. That was friday night in the filing. Since then, donald trump has repeatedly attacked jack smith, said nancy pelosi is going to hell and claimed mike pence is lying in his sworn testimony, that hes gone to the dark side. Trumps lawyers did the Full Ginsberg, or his lawyer, singular on sunday, arguing the january 6th charges are bunk, that donald trump was exercising his free speech. Will he use that same defense in arguing against the protective order. Donald trump used that, the response is due today at five, well explore it. Were also watching georgia where d. A. Fani willis is indicating a big decision is coming any moment. Not to mention florida where something could be brewing in the other Special Counsel case. What judge Aileen Cannon just did that might give jack smith a reason to ask for her dismissal. Let us dive in. Joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspon
True. so can we just put this to bed so you don t have to be asked about this a million more times. yes or no, did donald trump lose the 2020 election. whoever puts their hand on the bible on january 20th, every four years is the winner. respectfully, you did not clearly answer that question. if you can t give a yes or no on whether or not trump lost, then how can of course he lost. trump lost the 2020 election? of course. joe biden is the president. but the issue is, i think, what people in the media and elsewhere, they want to act like somehow this was just like the perfect election. so i don t think it was a good run election. i also think republicans didn t fight back. you ve got to fight back when that is happening. reporter: he also started to hone his argument, a little bit, katy, for voters, saying that if, look, this election is
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Election. all right, so is he going to be using that same vein, that same argument in trying to say to the judge in this case that, no, donald trump does not need a protective order? well, he did hint at that in the full ginsberg round robin, katy. the news media should be concerned about the protective order, even routine information that isn t sensitive, he may have a point there, but as i said, protective orders are standard in criminal cases, and i ll say one other thing, which is that i delve into all of those defenses in a piece we published on nbc news on friday. it s fair to say there are more plausible defenses in this case, than there are in the classified documents case in florida. it s also fair to say that each one of them has significant flaws, principally, one of which, they appear to require donald trump to testify at the trial, which as you and i both know would be legally perilous for donald trump. you got to give me more, ken.
We don t have trials on these patients, pregnant women in general. so i hope all of this is kind of a signal of a new era to come. yeah. so that we don t feel embarrassed to talk about it. it s hard, it s very hard. it s hard to do a trial on a pregnant woman because it s a pregnant woman, and you don t want to take any risks there. let me ask you about when this is going to be available. is it going to be on the shelves in the coming weeks or take a bit longer than that? it s going to take a bit longer, and briefly here s why. it s because this is something that has kind of what we call central nervous system effects. this does act on parts of your brain, and there s actually a black box warning on it, katy, that you shouldn t drive 12 hours after taking it. it s a daily bill that you take for two weeks, so, you know, that obviously, you re a newborn mom, you got to drive, you ve got to do things. so the dea has to review this, and it will take several months, we should see