forth and i misread your tex [laughter] i thought i was gonna have you on the top of the show and the you are you crossed on the top of my show and i was lik sending everyone on a while it was chase. but it s wonderful to see you. no or you thought i was gonna be on with you an hour ago, just pop up roundly o your show uninvited? no, i was having you on but then i realized afterwards tha i d screw that up and heads an a bunch of embarrassing emails telling people to stand down having revere the text you sen me so it s wonderful to see you here on this very importan day. thank you, chris. hey, and thank you for askin me to be here, i m here unde weird circumstances. i did my own makeup which is hilarious. so i look like we ve all bee talking about nicks nixon an actually here to remind us o the ghost of nixon nixon it s 1960. you do everything including your makeup. before you go, let me jus ask you, chris, because you ve been asking a lot of questions this hour and,
creative vision? emel mathlouthi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, you have had phenomenal success around the world since the arab spring, which propelled you to global fame. what is it now that still drives you to want to shake people? so many things. i guess, first of all, my passion for people and music and connecting. i feel that nowadays, more than ever, we need to connect with each other, and i feel that if we have this sense of union and empathy towards each other, i feel that the world could be a much better place. well, let s go back to 2010, 2011, and at that time your music was banned in tunisia. you were on avenue habib bourguiba in tunis, you were surrounded by crowds who were all chanting and then this happened. she sings in arabic. we are seeing you there, singing, with a candle lit in front of you, and to the crowds. when you watch it, how do you feel about that moment now? i ve always felt, um, kind of distant because ijust.me, i just remember the tension
thank you. now, you have had phenomenal success around the world since the arab spring, which propelled you to global fame. what is it now that still drives you to want to shake people? so many things. i guess, first of all, my passion for people and music and connecting. i feel that nowadays, more than ever, we need to connect with each other, and i feel that if we have this sense of union and empathy towards each other, i feel that the world could be a much better place. well, let s go back to 2010, 2011, and at that time your music was banned in tunisia. you were on avenue habib bourguiba in tunis, you were surrounded by crowds who were all chanting and then this happened. she sings in arabic. we are seeing you there, singing, with a candle lit in front of you, and to the crowds. when you watch it, how do you feel about that moment now? i ve always felt, um, kind of distant because ijust.me, i just remember the tension, and ijust remember that it wasn t all friendly around
That were still trying to push forfreedom. so i thought that it totally made sense for me to be outside so i could carry my voice as broad as possible for the cause. right. so what? so there wasn t a moment where you thought, i ll stay ? you left. i never thought exactly that i left. i thought that i. i was serving the purpose in a friendlier environment. so it was going to work much better to spread the message than if i stayed. and i don t think i ve thought about going back to tunisia, like, literally to live there, because i was also. i was very satisfied of the way my artistic life was going. i was very interested in being in the centre of the world and being in connection with different musics, with different audiences, while still being profoundly tunisian.
With felony tax evasion. felony tax evasion is a kind o cousin of the charge reportedly considered by the grand jury in their indictment today. it was absolutely fascinatin news when the felony tax evasion charges were announced against donald trump s business. but then, you remember wha happened thereafter? i swear you don t, because i was 16 months, 60 no new months between the announcemen of those charges in the da when they finally started to pick the jury. once they got a jury they had trial and was a long trial i those lots of testimony about, you know, alleged criminal tax fraud. and then there was a verdict and you remember where you wer when the verdict came out? no you don t you probably don t because it wasn t a moment whe the earth moved. maybe it moved for you it didn t move for me. i don t lie about these things i m too old. there were convictions on al counts on in that case, if you don t remember, and it s oka if you don t remember, because the sum total, real worl