growing up, gay role models. i mean, when i reflect on it, paul lindh running around bewitched as uncle arthur. and you had gay decorators in the doris day movies sort of flitting about. and i thought, i m not like that, that isn t who i am. so i knew who i wasn t. and it was very difficult to come to terms with. larry: i would imagine, kathy and you re of this four-person panel, you are not gay. i m not gay. larry: but you didn t did you choose to be heterosexual? did you one day say gay, not gay? i didn t choose to be heterosex any more than wanda chose to be gay or tim or lance. and that s what s so simple about this. larry: so why are they beaten? why are they because they re not sinning. i m sorry, but i want to connect the dots once again because i feel that there s something happening now more than ever where it s all sanctioned to bully a little bit and gay bash a little bit and i am sorry, but i hold the white house accountable and like i said,
these so-called religious leaders. and that s why prop 8 is tied to the repeal of don t ask, don t tell. it is tied to the bullying and the suicides. remember, matthew sheppard wasn t a suicide, but he was bullied to death. to death. and a lot of young people don t even know the name matthew sheppard. look it up. look up the name tyler clementi spend five minutes online and look up this person s story. and you ll see this is something that s preventible. larry: that s the kid who jumped off the george washington bridge. yes. and what a way. because someone surreptitiously videotaped him. do you think if it was a man and a woman being videotaped that one of these people would have committed suicide? no. larry: we ll be right back after this. don t go away. every day you check the weather, check the time check the news online heck the wife, eck the kids check your email messages check the money in the bank check the gas in the tank check the flava from your shirt
larry: was did he leave you any note? no. i only found something that said it was like he was starting to write a song or something, and it said it was back in his closet. something about ending his pain. so i don t know if he had thought about this in the past or not. larry: how did you learn of it? learn of? larry: his death. learn of what? larry: his death. oh. me and my oldest son, andrew, and my youngest, anthony, who s 8, we found him in the bedroom hanging from his futon frame. larry: did you talk to people at the school? yes. when i found out justin was bullied, one of his friends had texted me, actually, and asked
larry: let s go around the panel, nate,ou think it will get better? larry, it absolutely has to get better. the truth is it takes one adult, one adult to intervene. we can do this from new york and l.a. and be on television but in the towns across america, where the bullying is happening and the kids feel like they have no one to go to, it takes one adult to notice. where are our heroes? you be that hero! we have to intervene. on the ground, boots on the ground. the intervention has to happen in the schools, on the playground, in sports, whatever is going on. bring you kids home and ask them it s everyone knows how the bullies are. every teacher and every parent and every kid walk into a third grade class and it will take you two minutes to identify who is bullying who. literally, two minutes. say to your kids tonight who