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the committee on oversight and government reform will come to order and then continue with the second panel of the hearing today. i would ask unanimous consent that congressman john of iowa be allowed to participaparticipa te and flipper does but in today s hearing your without objection, so ordered. glad you could join us as well as mr. courtney of connecticut who could also come join us. the second panel is probably the most important people we can you from and we are pleased to welcome mr. ralph martin whose s chief of police at the santa marina, santa maria, california, please department, has an important perspective and we are pleased and honored you join with us here today. i would also like to allow mr. courtney to help introduce ms. wendy hartling. thank you, chairman chabot and ranking member cummings. again, we are honored today to have wendy hartling from connecticut join us here today. she is the quintessential small town america, and she was getting the ....
shed some light on some of the questions from your own experience, your knowledge. when an illegal alien is released, are you notified? no, sir. by anyone? we are not notified by anyone. okay. so we heard testimony this morning that i.c.e. notifies the states of all those who are released, and then that information filters down. and you were saying that that is not the case. we do not receive any direct indication from i.c.e. the only way we would know if somebody was released as if, talked to earlier, the victim would be notified and if they fill out a form, then the local sheriff s department is supposed to notified us that they are released so can talk to the victim. okay. civil law enforcement notification system, is it working? no, sir. what is it doing? if it is not doing what is the value, if any? i have to take it back years ago when i is just another agent and all the county jails. i think, i would like to preface my remarks by saying most mun ....
right here in america, not deporting them at all. they re staying here and then we ve had numerous examples of where they ve gone and committed these crimes again? don t you find that to be some what appalling. that is horrible. i think we were, i wish there was no crime committed by anyone. let me ask you something else. since fiscal year 2012, the annual budget has increased more than $680 million. is that correct? those are the figures i ve been given. since 2012. your budget has increased more than $680 million. ice has? yes. yes. at the same time the number of aliens has decreased by 174,000. 174,000. can you tell me what the reason for that is? because we can only remove those people who have final order of removal and the appropriate travel documents. if we cut your budget, would you stop releasing them? because we re giving you money and you re releasing them. sir, you know, you re miss representing the facts when you say you release them. i ....
i need it to be me. ted cruz may have the best shot at winning illinois. the texas senator is within striking distance of trump. meanwhile on the democratic side, bernie sanders is trying to pull off another midwest upset against hillary clinton. the vermont senator is making a run for missouri, ohio, and illinois where he s campaigned heavily in chicago. the states that are coming down the pipe, we have great opportunities to win many of them. we re feeling really good. clinton has the lead in florida. a winner take all state with 214 delegates up for grabs. don champion, cbs 4 news. it s an uphill battle for senator rubio here in florida but the junior senator from the sunshine state is confident voters in his home state will prove the poems wrong. but he says turn out is key. he s hoping to encourage voting with an all out media blitz today which started here at cbs 4 this morning. winning in florida would be before the parties and rallies, senator marco ....
going into utah and arizona. reporter: this is a do or die moment for his campaign, i m not going to die. it s a political campaign. this is not some purple country where if you lose an election got to go into exile. i believe we re going to win and i still believe that strongly. reporter: 11 months is gone from a list of nearly 2 dozen candidates down to a field of 4. he faces a setback in new hampshire when chris christie called him out for repeating rehearsed messages. it did rubio air time but made a purchase image in matching trump. he was for the republican nominee no matter who it is. it s getting harder every day to keep that pledge if it s donald trump because i m disgusted by some the things he s done in his campaign. i know people are angry and frustrated. but leaders don t take advantage of anger and frustration. they address it. reporter: marco rubio is it that they take the stage the later it is will work to his advantage. this could come down to ....